Episode 108 : Too Hogged-Up For the Gold

[00:00:00] [SPEAKER_04]: and we all stop it together and we go, that's enough! Which is a great movie with Jennifer Lopez. I was gonna watch it after this interview because I think it's on Tubi. And we go on Tubi and you gotta watch the commercials.

[00:00:34] [SPEAKER_05]: 75

[00:00:39] [SPEAKER_05]: 48 Minutes Of Dogs Barking, 48 Minutes of Dogs Barking

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Now you're telling me

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_09]: that's a full serving of chicken.

[00:00:58] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't fucking believe you.

[00:01:00] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay, explain the bit

[00:01:02] [SPEAKER_09]: because I think people need to know.

[00:01:05] [SPEAKER_09]: What's the bit?

[00:01:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, the bit.

[00:01:08] [SPEAKER_07]: The Philip Seymour Hoffman ordering at Chipotle.

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I was thinking

[00:01:11] [SPEAKER_09]: what I really wanted to do

[00:01:12] [SPEAKER_09]: was train AI

[00:01:14] [SPEAKER_09]: to get the dog shit serious

[00:01:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Philip Seymour Hoffman voice down

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_09]: and just do a really intense Chipotle order.

[00:01:23] [SPEAKER_09]: The chicken, is it wet?

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_09]: I want to see the juices roll off it

[00:01:29] [SPEAKER_09]: before you put it in the burrito.

[00:01:33] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not fucking joking here.

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Shut up about the toppings!

[00:01:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I don't know.

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Do you want me to come back there

[00:01:39] [SPEAKER_09]: and show you how to do it?

[00:01:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I can show you.

[00:01:45] [SPEAKER_07]: This is how the show starts, by the way.

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Every once in a while,

[00:01:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Brian will message me like,

[00:01:49] [SPEAKER_07]: hey, I got this idea.

[00:01:51] [SPEAKER_07]: And I'll go, okay, tell me.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER_07]: And then we go back and forth.

[00:01:56] [SPEAKER_09]: Something really fucking stupid.

[00:01:57] [SPEAKER_07]: It's amazing.

[00:01:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I love it.

[00:02:00] [SPEAKER_09]: It's 48 Minutes of Dogs Parking.

[00:02:01] [SPEAKER_09]: My name's Jason.

[00:02:02] [SPEAKER_09]: This is Brian.

[00:02:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And we're doing...

[00:02:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I know guac is extra.

[00:02:05] [SPEAKER_09]: You think I'm some sort of fucking peasant?

[00:02:09] [SPEAKER_07]: You're bordering on Anton Chigurh territory, though.

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_09]: This is what's the most you've ever lost on a rewards program.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Call it.

[00:02:17] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a burrito.

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a burrito, man.

[00:02:20] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know what you call it.

[00:02:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Do you own this taqueria?

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

[00:02:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

[00:02:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Welcome to the show, everybody.

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_09]: 48 Minutes of...

[00:02:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Phil Sumerhoff would have loved a lot of things had he not checked out.

[00:02:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Had he not tapped out like a bitch.

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Like a genetic bitch.

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Why did you tap out, Phil?

[00:02:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I gotta get this story out.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_09]: So, started my new job a couple weeks ago.

[00:02:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Shit's tight.

[00:02:52] [SPEAKER_09]: But I had like an orientation in a completely different building than the one I was going

[00:02:58] [SPEAKER_09]: to be working in.

[00:02:59] [SPEAKER_09]: I had my first day, as they would say, on the floor.

[00:03:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And the role I interviewed for...

[00:03:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to be honest with you.

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't even know what job position I accepted.

[00:03:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Sure.

[00:03:10] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just like, you know what's a job?

[00:03:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:03:12] [SPEAKER_09]: The pay rate doesn't...

[00:03:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Whatever they're doing, I'm sure I am more incapable of doing.

[00:03:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, you can figure it out.

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_09]: What they're asking me to do, I'm more incapable of handling.

[00:03:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Which is...

[00:03:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Which ended up most certainly being the case.

[00:03:23] [SPEAKER_09]: And the position that I accepted, I thought, was kind of like a support role that would be

[00:03:28] [SPEAKER_09]: kind of outside of the hierarchy of like worker, minor leadership, supervisor, all that.

[00:03:34] [SPEAKER_09]: That would be kind of like this thing that was out on its own.

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_09]: I did not realize I was in that chain of hierarchy.

[00:03:40] [SPEAKER_09]: So, first day, just trying to learn the ropes.

[00:03:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Getting a little overwhelmed by some of the reports and stuff that we've done.

[00:03:46] [SPEAKER_09]: We run to keep track of metrics.

[00:03:48] [SPEAKER_09]: And just a lot of stuff kind of being unloaded at one point in time.

[00:03:51] [SPEAKER_09]: And thankfully, that stuff was front-ended and then casually, slowly, and patiently re-explained

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_09]: over the next couple days.

[00:03:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Because at first I was like, oh shit, my imposter syndrome was fucking redlining.

[00:04:03] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, oh fuck.

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_09]: So, the team that I'm on and the team that we work most closely with have like a morning meeting every day.

[00:04:12] [SPEAKER_09]: So, we go stand in front of what they call a bullpen.

[00:04:15] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like standing with a guy who's also a new hire like me.

[00:04:18] [SPEAKER_09]: We went through orientation together.

[00:04:20] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like talking with him.

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And one of the ladies from the other team is like, Brian, no, you got to stand up here with us.

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Uh-oh.

[00:04:28] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, oh.

[00:04:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, okay.

[00:04:31] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like...

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_07]: I love how you accidentally became management.

[00:04:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:04:36] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just kind of amazing.

[00:04:38] [SPEAKER_09]: It was like one of those things where like, I thought I was getting a free car wash.

[00:04:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't know I was like subscribing to something.

[00:04:46] [SPEAKER_09]: I thought I was just getting a free car wash.

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like only you.

[00:04:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Only you, man.

[00:04:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Only me.

[00:04:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Only me.

[00:04:51] [SPEAKER_09]: And so, I'm like standing up there.

[00:04:52] [SPEAKER_09]: And I've got my big fucking lovely water ball that my girlfriend got me.

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_09]: But I've got this...

[00:04:56] [SPEAKER_09]: What does this sticker say?

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, that says death to fascism.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:04:59] [SPEAKER_09]: So, here it is.

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_09]: First day.

[00:05:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Minor leadership role.

[00:05:02] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm standing there with probably the biggest shit-eating grin.

[00:05:08] [SPEAKER_09]: So confused.

[00:05:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Just like, oh.

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I've really done it now.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:05:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I've really fucking screwed the...

[00:05:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, I am...

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_09]: I...

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Lord have mercy on my soul.

[00:05:20] [SPEAKER_09]: What have I done?

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_09]: I have really stepped in it.

[00:05:23] [SPEAKER_09]: And I have drugged it through grandma's favorite rug.

[00:05:25] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm just like standing there just like, oh shit.

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, man.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, shit.

[00:05:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Here's my big old fucking death to fascism sticker on my wire bottle.

[00:05:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm just like, oh.

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no.

[00:05:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I got to act like I'm a respectable person.

[00:05:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, man.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, God.

[00:05:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Why?

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:05:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I was like, oh shit.

[00:05:44] [SPEAKER_09]: And it turns out it really wasn't...

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not really that bad.

[00:05:46] [SPEAKER_09]: But that first day on the floor, I was like, oh.

[00:05:50] [SPEAKER_09]: This is going to be bad.

[00:05:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, this is...

[00:05:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Someone's going to get embarrassed.

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's probably going to be me.

[00:05:56] [SPEAKER_09]: It might be me.

[00:05:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Those the most Jim from the office, like staring at the camera.

[00:06:01] [SPEAKER_09]: I think I've had my adult life.

[00:06:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Like we always do at this time.

[00:06:05] [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to take you through some stuff.

[00:06:07] [SPEAKER_07]: That happened on the internet this week that you might have missed.

[00:06:10] [SPEAKER_07]: There is apparently a series of TikTok videos that some people are saying are AI generated

[00:06:16] [SPEAKER_07]: about...

[00:06:17] [SPEAKER_09]: They're so fucking weird.

[00:06:18] [SPEAKER_09]: I've seen a few of these.

[00:06:20] [SPEAKER_07]: They're unsettling.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, they are.

[00:06:22] [SPEAKER_07]: So the videos say, oh, hey, don't scroll away.

[00:06:26] [SPEAKER_07]: There was an animator who accidentally made a minion nail to a cross.

[00:06:33] [SPEAKER_07]: I would love to know how you accidentally...

[00:06:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_07]: There's not a button for that.

[00:06:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Beep, beep, beep.

[00:06:39] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, granted, I would love to do that.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Because they're incredibly annoying and every boomer loves them.

[00:06:45] [SPEAKER_07]: But here's a brief clip of some of these.

[00:06:47] [SPEAKER_01]: If you scroll away from this video, then what are you doing?

[00:06:50] [SPEAKER_01]: Look, look, look.

[00:06:51] [SPEAKER_01]: One day an animator was messing around and he created this picture of a little minion who

[00:06:56] [SPEAKER_01]: was nailed to a cross and you can...

[00:06:58] [SPEAKER_00]: This may sound a little crazy, but you need to hear this about a minion.

[00:07:02] [SPEAKER_00]: There was this animator that was messing around when all of a sudden he created a minion

[00:07:07] [SPEAKER_00]: who died on the cross and you...

[00:07:08] [SPEAKER_00]: If you scroll away from this video, then what are you doing?

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_00]: What the fuck?

[00:07:11] [SPEAKER_07]: The idea, I think, is that some of these are these really pro-Christian TikTok people.

[00:07:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_07]: A lot of the headlines will say, no one can do what Jesus did.

[00:07:23] [SPEAKER_07]: And so they're saying that this animator was a blasphemer and that there's only one Christ

[00:07:27] [SPEAKER_07]: and all this stuff.

[00:07:28] [SPEAKER_07]: But they're doing it in this weird, attention-grabbing way.

[00:07:31] [SPEAKER_07]: The scripts are really similar.

[00:07:33] [SPEAKER_07]: And that's what led people to believe that it was AI generated.

[00:07:36] [SPEAKER_09]: And so possibly AstroTurf from the Church of Latter-day Saints or something.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:07:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Or the Southern Baptist Cousin Kissers or something.

[00:07:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Something like that.

[00:07:47] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, there's...

[00:07:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes, if you think a minion died for you, just keep scrolling.

[00:07:52] [SPEAKER_07]: That was rough, man.

[00:07:53] [SPEAKER_02]: But I have to let you know something.

[00:07:55] [SPEAKER_02]: A minion didn't die for you.

[00:07:57] [SPEAKER_02]: A minion didn't pay the price that you and me deserve.

[00:08:02] [SPEAKER_02]: But Jesus did because Jesus loves you.

[00:08:06] [SPEAKER_02]: If you think a minion died for you, then just keep scrolling.

[00:08:10] [SPEAKER_02]: But if you know that Jesus died for you, follow and subscribe right now.

[00:08:14] [SPEAKER_09]: And that was only 40 seconds.

[00:08:16] [SPEAKER_09]: That was 40 seconds.

[00:08:17] [SPEAKER_09]: It felt like a year.

[00:08:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:08:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Not great.

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Definitely something to be on the lookout for.

[00:08:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Block those people fucking immediately.

[00:08:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Now, speaking of things we have a hard time with.

[00:08:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.

[00:08:30] [SPEAKER_09]: This poor guy.

[00:08:31] [SPEAKER_07]: What an amazing brag.

[00:08:34] [SPEAKER_07]: French pole vaulter Anthony Amirati was attempting to clear a pretty high bar.

[00:08:40] [SPEAKER_07]: And here he goes.

[00:08:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Just about clears it.

[00:08:43] [SPEAKER_07]: But his dick hits the bar.

[00:08:47] [SPEAKER_07]: This Gladys watching posting Anthony Amirati failed the bar and the commentators are clearly having a hard time acknowledging what happened.

[00:08:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Cry laughing emoji.

[00:08:56] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm dying.

[00:08:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Too hogged up for the gold.

[00:09:01] [SPEAKER_07]: And a lot of the comments are, you know, this is why I choose to keep my penis as small as possible for the tactical advantage.

[00:09:09] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, that kind of thing.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm a shame.

[00:09:10] [SPEAKER_09]: He had good form.

[00:09:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah.

[00:09:13] [SPEAKER_09]: It just happened to be that his huge penis got in the way.

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Whom amongst us?

[00:09:19] [SPEAKER_07]: What a time to be alive.

[00:09:21] [SPEAKER_07]: And, you know, it's doubly funny because, like, man, he was going to break a record, I think.

[00:09:26] [SPEAKER_07]: I think he was going to clear 5.8.

[00:09:30] [SPEAKER_07]: That's what he was going to do.

[00:09:31] [SPEAKER_07]: He was going to clear 5.8 and he just missed it because his fucking dong hit the bar.

[00:09:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Just absolute.

[00:09:39] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, he shouldn't have any trouble at the Olympic Village.

[00:09:43] [SPEAKER_09]: No, God, no.

[00:09:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Cardboard beds and all, yeah.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Here's the funny thing.

[00:09:48] [SPEAKER_09]: People can still have sex standing up.

[00:09:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, absolutely.

[00:09:51] [SPEAKER_07]: That's what I thought was the stupidest thing about that.

[00:09:53] [SPEAKER_07]: They're like, oh, these sex-proof beds.

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm like, buddy, these are athletic people.

[00:09:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Some of the wildest sex stories you will ever hear are Olympic Village sex stories.

[00:10:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, yeah.

[00:10:04] [SPEAKER_09]: And it doesn't even come from the athletes.

[00:10:05] [SPEAKER_09]: It comes from, like, people that, like, staffed.

[00:10:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh.

[00:10:09] [SPEAKER_09]: And, like, yeah, just people fucking, like, people fucking on the roofs, like, running out of condoms.

[00:10:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Condoms?

[00:10:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, they're running out of condoms, I believe.

[00:10:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, there's so much fucking.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Absolutely.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_09]: But you gotta think.

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_09]: You're broke as fuck.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:10:20] [SPEAKER_09]: You're in a country you don't know and you're with a bunch of other, hopefully conventionally

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_09]: attractive, at least athletic individuals.

[00:10:26] [SPEAKER_09]: True.

[00:10:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Iron sharpens iron, you know?

[00:10:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Amen to that.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[00:10:31] [SPEAKER_07]: We talked about J.D. Vance fucking a couch.

[00:10:34] [SPEAKER_07]: While obviously that is not true, it has caught on so much so that VP hopeful Tim Walls referenced

[00:10:41] [SPEAKER_07]: it in an acceptance speech.

[00:10:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I'll debate him if he can get off the couch.

[00:10:46] [SPEAKER_09]: Amazing.

[00:10:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Masterstroke.

[00:10:48] [SPEAKER_09]: 400 electoral votes.

[00:10:51] [SPEAKER_07]: So, the right have tried to replicate that.

[00:10:57] [SPEAKER_07]: To no avail, honestly, because this is the first I've heard of it.

[00:11:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Apparently this was days ago.

[00:11:03] [SPEAKER_07]: That's so stupid.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I know.

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_07]: So, it is a fake AP news article screenshot.

[00:11:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Purports that Walls once had his stomach pumped because he, quote, drank a gallon of human semen.

[00:11:14] [SPEAKER_07]: And then, the facts, it was horse semen.

[00:11:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Whoa!

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Boo!

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Boo!

[00:11:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Boo!

[00:11:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Wow.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:11:22] [SPEAKER_07]: It's like someone got owned.

[00:11:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:11:25] [SPEAKER_06]: Bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam.

[00:11:28] [SPEAKER_07]: What's stupid is, A, the stomach pumped from the gallon of semen thing has long been a thing.

[00:11:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, Rod Stewart.

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.

[00:11:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, Richard Gere, whoever.

[00:11:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Nicki Minaj, I think, or Megan Thee Stallion was even the victim of this.

[00:11:41] [SPEAKER_07]: I wouldn't be surprised if it was both.

[00:11:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:11:43] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, I heard about Lil' Kim.

[00:11:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Lil' Kim was, yeah.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:11:47] [SPEAKER_09]: That's who I'm thinking of.

[00:11:48] [SPEAKER_09]: But, yeah.

[00:11:49] [SPEAKER_07]: It's anyone.

[00:11:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Anyone that you don't like.

[00:11:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, ah, sucking a bunch of dick.

[00:11:54] [SPEAKER_07]: And it's just, it's so stupid.

[00:11:55] [SPEAKER_07]: And then, like, oh, you sucked off a horse, actually.

[00:11:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, okay, is that the joke?

[00:12:01] [SPEAKER_07]: The joke is that he sucked off a horse, huh?

[00:12:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, well, all right.

[00:12:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe the horse was sick.

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_09]: It was a make-a-wish.

[00:12:10] [SPEAKER_09]: It's got a type of situation.

[00:12:11] [SPEAKER_09]: The make-a-wish horse?

[00:12:12] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, if you're a make-a-wish kid, that's your make-a-wish, is to watch a kindly old man suck off your prize stud.

[00:12:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

[00:12:23] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if they'll do that one.

[00:12:24] [SPEAKER_07]: But, yeah.

[00:12:25] [SPEAKER_07]: So, it was a guy named at con underscore national.

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_07]: He tried to post it saying, you know, oh, Waltz is weirder than J.D. Vance.

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_07]: It's so fucking dumb.

[00:12:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Here's a post.

[00:12:36] [SPEAKER_07]: At Mangolith.

[00:12:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Missed the whole point of why the Vance bit was funny.

[00:12:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Because they're so obviously mad at being called weird.

[00:12:43] [SPEAKER_07]: So, they're trying to one-up weirdness by steering into absurdist gallon of horse semen.

[00:12:48] [SPEAKER_07]: And, yeah, I think that pretty much hits the nail on the head there.

[00:12:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Are you trying to tell me this is horse semen?

[00:12:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Not human semen.

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sorry, Philip.

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_07]: We'll do better.

[00:12:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I know it's in your writer.

[00:12:59] [SPEAKER_07]: But, it's written right in there.

[00:13:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Where's my fucking cashews?

[00:13:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm going to kill someone if I don't get my fucking cashews.

[00:13:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I can't see Tim Walls sucking off a horse.

[00:13:10] [SPEAKER_09]: No.

[00:13:11] [SPEAKER_07]: For a number of reasons.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I can see J.D. Vance fucking a couch.

[00:13:15] [SPEAKER_07]: You see the difference?

[00:13:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:13:18] [SPEAKER_09]: They're both absurd premises, but one has got a little bit more of a foot in reality than the other.

[00:13:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[00:13:25] [SPEAKER_07]: And I think that's what really makes it here is the fucking...

[00:13:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah.

[00:13:29] [SPEAKER_08]: He sucked off a horse.

[00:13:30] [SPEAKER_08]: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha.

[00:13:32] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.

[00:13:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Do you hate children?

[00:13:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

[00:13:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Then have a kid.

[00:13:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Have a kid and punish them for existing.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

[00:13:40] [SPEAKER_09]: This is...

[00:13:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Post it on the internet.

[00:13:43] [SPEAKER_07]: This is a gentleman who goes by the at sweaty startup.

[00:13:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Nick Huber here.

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_07]: I buy real estate and start companies.

[00:13:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Owner of Somewhere, Bolt Storage, ReCost, Seg, Titan Risk, Bold, SEO, AdRydo, WebRun, RecruitJet, Spidex.

[00:13:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Wow.

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_07]: So this is him posting, this kid saved up all week for an ice cream, spent five bucks, dropped it after the fifth lick.

[00:14:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't buy him another one.

[00:14:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Life is hard.

[00:14:06] [SPEAKER_07]: He took it well.

[00:14:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Now, a lot of people are calling him Ice Cream Dad in a clear reference to Bean Dad,

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_07]: the guy who tried to teach his eight-year-old a lesson about opening a can of beans with a can opener.

[00:14:16] [SPEAKER_07]: And they're like, oh, yeah, it's the exact same thing.

[00:14:19] [SPEAKER_07]: No.

[00:14:20] [SPEAKER_07]: This guy is doing this shit for clout.

[00:14:22] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a difference.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:14:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And also, why does your child look like something out of like an Abercrombie & Fitch magazine from the Victorian era?

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Like a haunted doll-ass child.

[00:14:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_09]: That child yearns for the minds.

[00:14:37] [SPEAKER_07]: So someone said, I'll Venmo you five bucks if you get that poor kid a new ice cream.

[00:14:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Nick Huber responding, they offered him a freebie and I declined it.

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Then that post got hit with a community note.

[00:14:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Nick Huber later claimed that no freebie was offered and implied this statement was made for engagement.

[00:14:54] [SPEAKER_07]: And yes, he did reply to someone else.

[00:14:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Their question was, why did you decline the freebie?

[00:14:59] [SPEAKER_07]: It was his money, his purchase.

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_07]: You don't get to decide whether or not he will accept it.

[00:15:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Nick Huber responding, I didn't.

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Of course, they never offered.

[00:15:07] [SPEAKER_07]: But it made the tweet better.

[00:15:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Don't concede your grift, you piece of shit.

[00:15:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Giving away the game.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:15:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Very clearly someone just engagement baiting.

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And they got what they wanted.

[00:15:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, that original post.

[00:15:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Nick Cryer's gonna fucking lure him to a second location and strangle him dead.

[00:15:27] [SPEAKER_07]: But he got what he wanted.

[00:15:28] [SPEAKER_07]: That original post, 13K retweets, 94K likes, 20K responses.

[00:15:34] [SPEAKER_07]: So yeah, he's gonna get those Elon bucks whether we like it or not.

[00:15:38] [SPEAKER_07]: The only thing worth less than Elon bucks is the Donald J. Trump token.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_07]: That's right.

[00:15:43] [SPEAKER_07]: It's Crypto Scam of the Week, baby.

[00:15:46] [SPEAKER_06]: You're listening to 48 Minutes of Dogs Barking, the podcast.

[00:15:51] [SPEAKER_11]: And now it's time for the Crypto Scam of the Week.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_11]: Thanks.

[00:15:54] [SPEAKER_09]: When you brought this up to me today, I thought you were talking about the other Donald Trump token that rugged majorly today.

[00:16:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh my God, there were two.

[00:16:02] [SPEAKER_09]: There were two.

[00:16:04] [SPEAKER_08]: It's a twofer, ladies and gentlemen.

[00:16:06] [SPEAKER_09]: So I have not been able to put as much time into researching this today as I want to.

[00:16:12] [SPEAKER_09]: But I did look a little bit while I had some free time earlier in the day.

[00:16:16] [SPEAKER_09]: There was a token.

[00:16:18] [SPEAKER_09]: I believe it was either Eric or Trump Jr.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[00:16:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Erica Trump Jr.

[00:16:23] [SPEAKER_09]: We're apparently getting in cahoots with some contract dev and we're going to launch something.

[00:16:28] [SPEAKER_09]: And someone front run them with like the ticker or the name.

[00:16:32] [SPEAKER_09]: It was supposed to be like rebuild the Republic RTR.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh.

[00:16:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I think it went up to like $150 million market cap and rugged down to $70 after whatever Trump failed son it was, was like, that's not our token.

[00:16:47] [SPEAKER_09]: We're not involved with that.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:16:49] [SPEAKER_07]: The CoinDesk here reporting a newly launched cryptocurrency on Solana called Restore the Republic or RTR, which was rumored to be the official token of Donald Trump, ballooned to $155 million market value by four, cratering 95% on Thursday.

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_07]: That's today.

[00:17:05] [SPEAKER_07]: After the former president's son warned his father doesn't yet have an official token.

[00:17:10] [SPEAKER_07]: That was Eric Trump, by the way.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER_07]: He tweeted that he has, quote, fallen in love with crypto slash DeFi.

[00:17:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Stay tuned for a big announcement.

[00:17:17] [SPEAKER_07]: And then RTR began soaring.

[00:17:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Ryan Fournier, conservative activist and chair of Students for Trump, amplified that hearsay.

[00:17:26] [SPEAKER_07]: Rumor has it, his quote says, that the official Trump coin is out, called Restore the Republic.

[00:17:32] [SPEAKER_07]: That post has, of course, been deleted.

[00:17:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Eric Trump popped the bubble and chaos ensued.

[00:17:37] [SPEAKER_07]: He warned users of fake tokens.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:17:40] [SPEAKER_07]: The actual quote is, friends, beware of fake tokens.

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_07]: The only official Trump project has not been announced.

[00:17:45] [SPEAKER_07]: You will hear it here first.

[00:17:47] [SPEAKER_07]: It dropped 95% on that one.

[00:17:48] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I was talking.

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I was talking about something that happened two days ago.

[00:17:53] [SPEAKER_07]: That was DJT.

[00:17:56] [SPEAKER_07]: That was the one that was reportedly tied to farmer bro Martin Shkreli.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_07]: That's right.

[00:18:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER_07]: A couple months ago.

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:18:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Back in June.

[00:18:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Today, all the locked value was taken out by an unknown party.

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_07]: This is courtesy of Protos.

[00:18:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Numerous accounts began to accuse Shkreli of taking the money.

[00:18:13] [SPEAKER_07]: But, of course, he said, no.

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I helped make it with understand, with the understanding.

[00:18:19] [SPEAKER_07]: It was the official Trump token.

[00:18:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Not that this would happen.

[00:18:22] [SPEAKER_07]: DJT is now down 90% from all-time highs.

[00:18:25] [SPEAKER_07]: It's currently trading for .0004 cents.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Wow.

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_07]: So, two in a row.

[00:18:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, amazing.

[00:18:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Just two days apart.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, boy.

[00:18:37] [SPEAKER_07]: What a shit show.

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, and you know, especially because Donald Trump recently, at some conference, I can't

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_07]: remember what it was.

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it might have been the Libertarian one, where he said, yeah, have fun with your

[00:18:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Bitcoins or whatever it is that you're doing.

[00:18:49] [SPEAKER_10]: What are you playing with?

[00:18:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, whatever you're playing with, something like that.

[00:18:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Just a real dismissal of the whole concept.

[00:18:55] [SPEAKER_07]: And so, like, yeah, no, he's got an official.

[00:18:57] [SPEAKER_07]: No, he does not.

[00:18:58] [SPEAKER_07]: He doesn't understand what it is, does, or has for breakfast.

[00:19:02] [SPEAKER_07]: This is financial advice.

[00:19:03] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm telling you right now, do not invest in anything with the name Donald John Trump or

[00:19:07] [SPEAKER_07]: MAGA anywhere near it.

[00:19:09] [SPEAKER_09]: First of all, you should probably stay away from crypto.

[00:19:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, sure.

[00:19:12] [SPEAKER_09]: But if you're going to fucking dip your toes in that water, like, at least don't get fucking

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_09]: hosed on the very first thing you buy.

[00:19:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Don't dump your life savings into it.

[00:19:20] [SPEAKER_07]: That's what I would say.

[00:19:22] [SPEAKER_07]: If you're going to do it, okay, 20 bucks here, you know, 30 bucks here.

[00:19:26] [SPEAKER_07]: If this shits the bed, I'm not going to cry about it.

[00:19:29] [SPEAKER_07]: If this shits the bed, I'm not going to lose my house.

[00:19:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Because it can be silly and fun, and it's a whole thing.

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Whatever, I mean, you fucking want to gamble?

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:19:38] [SPEAKER_09]: And you don't want to leave the house?

[00:19:39] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just such a murky situation, crypto.

[00:19:44] [SPEAKER_09]: And it keeps getting weirder and weirder and more extremist and more desperate and sweaty.

[00:19:50] [SPEAKER_09]: There's institutional adoption, and there is some government adoption.

[00:19:55] [SPEAKER_09]: But I think probably the future of crypto is going to be much smaller than what the fucking

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER_09]: moon boys and tech bros want you to believe.

[00:20:07] [SPEAKER_09]: It wasn't Bitcoin supposed to be not as volatile as the stock market?

[00:20:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And look how it's been for the last week or two.

[00:20:15] [SPEAKER_09]: It was almost ranging like mid-70K.

[00:20:19] [SPEAKER_09]: And now it's, gosh, like low 50s maybe again?

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I can't remember.

[00:20:24] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not paying attention that much right now.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it took a shit.

[00:20:26] [SPEAKER_09]: But it ate shit pretty hard.

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_09]: That motherfucker double topped.

[00:20:33] [SPEAKER_09]: You were asking me what was going on.

[00:20:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, well, the economy's slowing down.

[00:20:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Interest rates were not cut as quickly as they should have been by some people's opinion.

[00:20:43] [SPEAKER_09]: So now we've got this.

[00:20:45] [SPEAKER_09]: People are taking money off the table because it's safer.

[00:20:48] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's a shrewd move by certain investors, I guess.

[00:20:51] [SPEAKER_07]: How about that?

[00:20:53] [SPEAKER_07]: How about that?

[00:20:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, how about this?

[00:20:55] [SPEAKER_07]: We teased it last week and we're going to do it.

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_07]: That's right, folks.

[00:20:59] [SPEAKER_07]: We're talking about Lonely Girl 15.

[00:21:02] [SPEAKER_09]: We couldn't think of anything else.

[00:21:04] [SPEAKER_07]: No hush.

[00:21:06] [SPEAKER_07]: It's actually an interesting story.

[00:21:08] [SPEAKER_07]: It's a fascinating tale because I did not know a good chunk of this until I started doing

[00:21:13] [SPEAKER_07]: the research on it.

[00:21:14] [SPEAKER_07]: And I went, oh, oh, that's interesting.

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_07]: And so how familiar are you with the Lonely Girl 15 phenomenon, Brian?

[00:21:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I remember Lonely Girl 15 being one of the first big fangs that wasn't like copyright theft.

[00:21:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, there's that.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:21:35] [SPEAKER_09]: That wasn't like a Linkin Park OMV or AMV or whatever you want or the fuck it's called.

[00:21:41] [SPEAKER_07]: The anime music videos?

[00:21:42] [SPEAKER_07]: AMV, yeah.

[00:21:43] [SPEAKER_07]: It's Dragon Ball and Linkin Park.

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:21:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Classics.

[00:21:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Lonely Girl 15 was a YouTube project.

[00:21:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Would it surprise you that it was fake?

[00:21:54] [SPEAKER_09]: No.

[00:21:55] [SPEAKER_09]: It never really surprised me.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_07]: No.

[00:21:57] [SPEAKER_07]: So this courtesy of The Guardian, it's a great introduction to the concept.

[00:22:01] [SPEAKER_07]: In June 2006, a 16-year-old girl began a video blog on YouTube.

[00:22:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Her name was Bree.

[00:22:06] [SPEAKER_07]: She'd been lurking in the burgeoning community for a while.

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_07]: She was a self-described dork.

[00:22:12] [SPEAKER_07]: She thought her hometown was really boring.

[00:22:14] [SPEAKER_07]: She was funny, friendly, and according to the author of this article, Alina Cressy, had great eyebrows.

[00:22:21] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.

[00:22:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Great eyebrows for that era.

[00:22:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Her first few videos were relatable and cute.

[00:22:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Introducing her friend Daniel, complaining about being homeschooled and having to do homework in June.

[00:22:32] [SPEAKER_07]: And so this was one of the first ones.

[00:22:33] [SPEAKER_07]: First blog slash dorkiness prevails.

[00:22:37] [SPEAKER_03]: Well, what you need to know about my town is that it's really boring.

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_03]: Like, really boring.

[00:22:42] Really.

[00:22:43] [SPEAKER_03]: Really boring.

[00:22:46] [SPEAKER_03]: That's probably why I spend so much time on my computer.

[00:22:51] [SPEAKER_03]: I'm a dork.

[00:22:55] [SPEAKER_03]: I didn't really have a plan for this video blog.

[00:22:57] [SPEAKER_07]: So the videos were short.

[00:22:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Minute and a half, two minutes.

[00:23:01] [SPEAKER_07]: And there wasn't much to them.

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_07]: It was Bree talking to you, the viewer, being what we would call a dorkable.

[00:23:08] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, this kind of relatable and like a totally normal girl way.

[00:23:12] [SPEAKER_07]: So random.

[00:23:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_09]: This is how people act before they get an adult autism diagnosis.

[00:23:19] [SPEAKER_09]: That's fair.

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:23:21] [SPEAKER_09]: That's fine.

[00:23:23] [SPEAKER_07]: It's almost painful in its earnestness, isn't it?

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:23:26] [SPEAKER_09]: But like watching that video, I can, like, I haven't watched, I haven't seen, watched any

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_09]: like Lonely Girl stuff probably since like 2007 or 2008.

[00:23:39] [SPEAKER_09]: And I don't know, for me, maybe I'm just cynical.

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_09]: But I like, I kind of felt the first time I saw it before I knew it was a bit like, it

[00:23:47] [SPEAKER_09]: was, or it was openly a bit.

[00:23:49] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm like, this doesn't seem genuine.

[00:23:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Like, this seems like someone's doing a character or doing a thing.

[00:23:56] [SPEAKER_07]: I got caught up in it when it first started.

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_07]: A, because, you know, YouTube is still relatively new.

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_07]: There weren't a lot of talking heads on there like there are now.

[00:24:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Not everyone is telling you how Star Wars is weak and gay or anything like that.

[00:24:12] [SPEAKER_07]: But it's just, it was just, it felt earnest and kind of cringe.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:24:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't think we had a word for it.

[00:24:20] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, there was a lot of that going on.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:24:22] [SPEAKER_09]: At that time.

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_07]: So it felt kind of of a piece of what was going on.

[00:24:26] [SPEAKER_07]: So it didn't feel out of place.

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_07]: It didn't feel like there was anything necessarily fake about it.

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it also has to do with the production value.

[00:24:35] [SPEAKER_07]: It was clearly a webcam.

[00:24:37] [SPEAKER_07]: It's grainy as shit.

[00:24:38] [SPEAKER_07]: It's clearly shot in someone's bedroom.

[00:24:41] [SPEAKER_07]: It's a teenage girl being goofy.

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_07]: None of that screamed fake to me.

[00:24:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Lo and behold, it was.

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Can I tell you like probably the biggest tell?

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:24:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, please.

[00:24:54] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not the adorkable stuff.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[00:24:57] [SPEAKER_09]: It's that all this context, like being like homeschooled and like the, I guess the adorkable

[00:25:02] [SPEAKER_09]: stuff gets in there is like a lot of the people I personally knew, like young women who acted

[00:25:07] [SPEAKER_09]: like that were not what we would call conventionally attractive in the same sense.

[00:25:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[00:25:14] [SPEAKER_09]: This was before hot people were on the internet.

[00:25:16] [SPEAKER_07]: That's a fair point.

[00:25:17] [SPEAKER_07]: That's a fair point.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I mean, there was that old 4chan rule that there are no girls on the internet.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[00:25:23] [SPEAKER_09]: They were there.

[00:25:24] [SPEAKER_09]: They posted on Fyad.

[00:25:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, they were.

[00:25:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Some of them are still there.

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Lukavi.

[00:25:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:25:33] [SPEAKER_07]: What eventually came out was that Brie was an actress by the name of Jessica Lee Rose.

[00:25:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Now, she had been hired by a group, Miles Beckett, Mesh Flinders, Greg Goodfried and Amanda

[00:25:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Goodfried.

[00:25:47] [SPEAKER_07]: They created an entire storyline about Brie, about her friend slash future boyfriend, Daniel,

[00:25:56] [SPEAKER_07]: also known as Daniel Beast, set up all these convoluted scenarios where, you know, she and

[00:26:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Daniel hung out and then they kissed.

[00:26:08] [SPEAKER_07]: It's typical teen melodrama stuff.

[00:26:10] [SPEAKER_07]: It wasn't until later that they started dropping in stuff where, okay, now we understand that

[00:26:18] [SPEAKER_07]: this isn't real because Brie starts talking about this cult that her parents want her to

[00:26:26] [SPEAKER_07]: go do this ritual.

[00:26:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Eventually, they had an entire storyline about that the cult was coming after her and it got

[00:26:33] [SPEAKER_07]: out of control, but it started out very, very simple.

[00:26:37] [SPEAKER_07]: So the guy who created it, Miles Beckett, then a doctor, came up with the idea to stage

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_07]: it all.

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_07]: He hired a friend.

[00:26:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Flinders, a filmmaker.

[00:26:47] [SPEAKER_07]: They wrote a script.

[00:26:48] [SPEAKER_07]: It was fascinating because it was so much going on behind the scenes.

[00:26:53] [SPEAKER_07]: But at the same time, the actress who plays Brie, Jessica Lee Rose, as mentioned before,

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_07]: fresh off the bus.

[00:27:00] [SPEAKER_07]: They get her on a contract.

[00:27:02] [SPEAKER_07]: So no one's really seen her.

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_07]: This kind of follows almost that Blair Witch Project.

[00:27:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Sure.

[00:27:09] [SPEAKER_07]: That model of, okay, get someone who's an unknown, get them into a scenario that's believable

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_07]: at first and then becomes something else.

[00:27:18] [SPEAKER_07]: So it does kind of feel like they followed that Blair Witch model, but tried to make it

[00:27:22] [SPEAKER_07]: serialized online.

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_07]: But I think that's the first time that I ever felt duped when that sort of thing came out

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_07]: because, okay, this is just a story.

[00:27:33] [SPEAKER_09]: I remember it getting kind of funky like that.

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I forgot about the cult, but I remember it kept developing more and more characters,

[00:27:40] [SPEAKER_09]: more of a mythology.

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I had seen like a couple of really early ones and only ever interacted with it from a far

[00:27:50] [SPEAKER_09]: distance after that.

[00:27:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:27:52] [SPEAKER_07]: So the casting call list from Craigslist was called Children of Anchor Cove.

[00:27:58] [SPEAKER_07]: That was the casting call list.

[00:28:00] [SPEAKER_07]: It was non-union, right?

[00:28:02] [SPEAKER_07]: It lasted for about a month.

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:28:04] [SPEAKER_07]: A bartender by the name of Yusuf Abu Talib got the role of Daniel.

[00:28:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Both of them had moved to Los Angeles very recently.

[00:28:13] [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, his one of the feuds that came into the audition, this is the Guardian again,

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_07]: not looking like he stepped out of an Abercrombie and Fitch catalog.

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Daniel was always meant to be dorky, so his look clearly worked in his favor.

[00:28:25] [SPEAKER_07]: All he'd seen of YouTube at that point were a couple of videos of people falling over.

[00:28:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Not only was this completely fake from the get-go, and the real trick is to not give the game

[00:28:37] [SPEAKER_07]: away by saying this is absolutely real.

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_07]: And I think that's what Blair Witch did wrong.

[00:28:42] [SPEAKER_07]: These people did so much like, we're not going to have them be seen in public.

[00:28:47] [SPEAKER_07]: We're going to...

[00:28:48] [SPEAKER_07]: It was fascinating.

[00:28:50] [SPEAKER_07]: They figured out...

[00:28:51] [SPEAKER_07]: It was like Campbell Holocaust for the internet.

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, kind of.

[00:28:54] [SPEAKER_07]: They figured out how to goose the early YouTube front page to get more eyeballs on it.

[00:29:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Like this Guardian article again.

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_07]: They mathematically figured out at what point in the video YouTube's algorithm would scrape

[00:29:08] [SPEAKER_07]: the preview image.

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_07]: If it was a good freeze frame, you could get 100,000 more views.

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Miles figured out the algorithm.

[00:29:16] [SPEAKER_07]: From then on, we could choose our freeze frame.

[00:29:18] [SPEAKER_07]: We could make a freeze frame that was thematically connected to the episode.

[00:29:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Viewer counts continued to rise.

[00:29:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Six months' worth of episodes.

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_07]: YouTube became the fastest growing website on the internet that same summer.

[00:29:30] [SPEAKER_07]: People were flocking there to see what it had to offer.

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_07]: And if you, like Bree, were a YouTuber who updated every two days, you were guaranteed to

[00:29:38] [SPEAKER_07]: build a following.

[00:29:39] [SPEAKER_07]: So this was the guys getting in at the right place at the right time with just the right

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_07]: type of content.

[00:29:44] [SPEAKER_07]: This is very clearly engineered almost from the beginning to be a hit.

[00:29:47] [SPEAKER_09]: And, I mean, most of YouTube at that point, like I said, was like anime AMVs.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:29:53] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, re-uploads of Wonder Shows and broken into like 12 parts.

[00:29:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Because I think videos could only be like five or ten minutes long at a time.

[00:30:02] [SPEAKER_09]: So it would be like Wonder Shows in episode one, two, part one of like six.

[00:30:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, there's like a ten minute limit.

[00:30:09] [SPEAKER_09]: And then, of course, also, this was before there was a lot of content moderation.

[00:30:13] [SPEAKER_09]: So you could get weird videos like a Mexican dude like taking a shit.

[00:30:19] [SPEAKER_09]: It was really a strange time to be on YouTube.

[00:30:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, because that was one of our first episodes that we published was about the yellow peepee

[00:30:27] [SPEAKER_07]: monster.

[00:30:28] [SPEAKER_07]: And that was an early YouTube guy.

[00:30:31] [SPEAKER_07]: It was a guy who would just walk into these bathrooms and start pissing everywhere.

[00:30:35] [SPEAKER_09]: Whom's among us.

[00:30:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, I mean, really.

[00:30:37] [SPEAKER_07]: But according, again, The Guardian, as Lonely Girl 15 became the most subscribed channel on

[00:30:42] [SPEAKER_07]: YouTube, beating Peter Oakley, a.k.a.

[00:30:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Geriatric 1927.

[00:30:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Speculation grew.

[00:30:48] [SPEAKER_07]: So people started to figure out, hey, wait a minute.

[00:30:50] [SPEAKER_07]: This isn't just some random blog.

[00:30:51] [SPEAKER_07]: This shit has storylines.

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_07]: There was a forum that was created, but apparently it was created before Brie ever started posting.

[00:30:58] [SPEAKER_07]: So that was red flag number one.

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Pictures of Alistair Crowley were appearing in the background of the videos.

[00:31:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Because journalists from several organizations joined the hunt for Brie.

[00:31:09] [SPEAKER_07]: So this New Yorker article from September of that same year.

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_07]: And there was a Silicon Valley watcher, was the blog.

[00:31:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Matt Foremsky, 18-year-old son of Tan Foremsky, was the first to disinter a trove of photographs

[00:31:23] [SPEAKER_07]: of the similar-looking actress who portrayed Brie.

[00:31:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Then it all kind of broke.

[00:31:29] [SPEAKER_07]: The masterminds of the videos, they find out who they were.

[00:31:32] [SPEAKER_07]: They said that the bedroom scenes were shot in Ramesh Flinders' home.

[00:31:37] [SPEAKER_07]: In his actual bedroom, typically using nothing more than a Logitech Quick Cam.

[00:31:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Together with Grant Steinfield, a software engineer in San Francisco, Mr. Flinders contrived

[00:31:46] [SPEAKER_07]: to produce and distribute the videos to peak maximum curiosity.

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_07]: And so yes, Mr. Steinfield said we were all under NDAs.

[00:31:55] [SPEAKER_07]: They had a lawyer involved.

[00:31:57] [SPEAKER_07]: My first impression was like, wow, is this legitimate?

[00:32:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Is this ethical?

[00:32:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I was very concerned.

[00:32:02] [SPEAKER_07]: But after he came to understand the project, Mr. Steinfield said he came to believe that

[00:32:07] [SPEAKER_07]: something truly novel was at hand.

[00:32:09] [SPEAKER_07]: They were like the new Marshall McLuhan.

[00:32:12] [SPEAKER_07]: The medium is indeed the message.

[00:32:15] [SPEAKER_07]: They went to great lengths.

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_07]: It says here, Mr. Flinders and Mr. Beckert obscured their location by sending email messages

[00:32:20] [SPEAKER_07]: as Brie from various internet computer addresses, including the address of CAA, the talent agency

[00:32:28] [SPEAKER_07]: where the team is now represented.

[00:32:30] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, they filed the trademark in August, a couple months after the video started.

[00:32:35] [SPEAKER_07]: And the fact that they were found so quickly, because I mean, again, this video started maybe

[00:32:40] [SPEAKER_07]: a month or two before this, and it only took that long for people to figure out, okay, not

[00:32:45] [SPEAKER_07]: only is this fake.

[00:32:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Here's the name of the actress.

[00:32:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Here's where they all are.

[00:32:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, it says the series, which Mr. Flinders and Mr. Beckert planned to continue on a site

[00:32:54] [SPEAKER_07]: overseen by them, may play differently with fans now they know for sure that Brie is an

[00:32:58] [SPEAKER_07]: actress.

[00:32:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Part of the appeal of the series was that the serious-minded, literate Brie offered an unbeatable

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_07]: fantasy.

[00:33:05] [SPEAKER_07]: A beautiful girl who techie guys had something in common with.

[00:33:08] Wow, a girl on the internet.

[00:33:09] [SPEAKER_07]: A girl on the internet, Brian.

[00:33:12] [SPEAKER_09]: It did.

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_09]: And you know what?

[00:33:13] [SPEAKER_09]: It's likely to happen again.

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, probably.

[00:33:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Probably.

[00:33:17] [SPEAKER_07]: If it hasn't already.

[00:33:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Folks, if you know of a woman or a girl on the internet.

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, give us a call.

[00:33:27] [SPEAKER_07]: 314-246-9766.

[00:33:30] [SPEAKER_07]: We'd like to know about it.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_07]: So we can investigate.

[00:33:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Do not lure us to a second location.

[00:33:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, yeah, of course there's that.

[00:33:35] [SPEAKER_07]: It's very strange because it only ran June 2006 to August 2008.

[00:33:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Now that first one, first blog dorkiness prevails 500,000 views in a week.

[00:33:47] [SPEAKER_07]: By the time it was outed as a hoax, over 2 million views on YouTube.

[00:33:51] That's insane.

[00:33:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Following the reveal that it was staged, the viewership went up.

[00:33:56] [SPEAKER_07]: So by 2007, the series was getting about 300,000 to 900,000 views per episode.

[00:34:02] [SPEAKER_07]: And again, these are going out twice a week.

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a quiet upload schedule.

[00:34:06] [SPEAKER_07]: By the end of the series, each video had collectively garnered 60 million YouTube views.

[00:34:13] [SPEAKER_07]: But also the internet detectives was also a weird part of this.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I forgot about this where they were looking at the plants and what birds could be heard or something like that.

[00:34:25] [SPEAKER_09]: It got really...

[00:34:26] [SPEAKER_09]: It got weird.

[00:34:27] [SPEAKER_09]: It got weird.

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_09]: It got real weird.

[00:34:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Catching and releasing.

[00:34:30] [SPEAKER_09]: That's why it was kind of like catching release freak guy stuff.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_09]: The thrill of the hunt.

[00:34:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, exactly.

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, apparently there was a series of spinoffs.

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if you ever saw any of these.

[00:34:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Kate Modern?

[00:34:43] [SPEAKER_07]: That was July 2007 through June 2008 on Bebo.

[00:34:49] [SPEAKER_07]: The fuck is Bebo?

[00:34:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Bebo.

[00:34:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Bebo.

[00:34:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Bebo.

[00:34:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Second Lonely Girl spinoff, LG 15 The Resistance.

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_07]: The fuck?

[00:35:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:35:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm coming for you, oh bungler.

[00:35:11] [SPEAKER_07]: Completely different cast, by the way.

[00:35:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Daily content.

[00:35:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Video blogs, images, text blogs, and other information.

[00:35:17] [SPEAKER_07]: And then...

[00:35:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Did she wear a pussy hat?

[00:35:20] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

[00:35:22] [SPEAKER_07]: That was what?

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_07]: 2008?

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_07]: So...

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

[00:35:25] [SPEAKER_07]: It was a couple years before that.

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_09]: I was...

[00:35:27] [SPEAKER_09]: It was a record.

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_07]: But then, 2016, on the 10th anniversary, a trailer for a relaunch was posted on their YouTube channel.

[00:35:35] [SPEAKER_07]: With the original actress returning as Brie.

[00:35:38] [SPEAKER_07]: To date, no relaunch has materialized, so they posted this trailer for a thing that never actually happened.

[00:35:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Apparently, they shot just a trailer, and then they never got everybody back together.

[00:35:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Truly fascinating.

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_07]: I think a lot of people are in agreement that Lonely Girl 15 was the first time you could really say,

[00:35:58] [SPEAKER_07]: well, YouTube has value in a different way.

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_07]: You know what I mean?

[00:36:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, it was like, oh, okay.

[00:36:06] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, it's fake, but it's also telling a story in this short format, and I think that was a different thing.

[00:36:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:36:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I think even William Gibson's book, Pattern Recognition, owes some stuff to this, because it's about short, right?

[00:36:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Short video that's released on the internet that tells a story and that leads people down this kind of rabbit hole.

[00:36:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, you know, a lot of things inspired and were inspired by this.

[00:36:35] [SPEAKER_07]: I think it's much more impactful than I think it's ever really given credit for.

[00:36:42] [SPEAKER_07]: The idea that you can do a long-form story on a YouTube type of site, like a video sharing site, was nothing that they'd really done before.

[00:36:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[00:36:56] [SPEAKER_07]: And so it's novel in that way.

[00:37:00] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know.

[00:37:01] [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like maybe it's worth a revisit.

[00:37:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Maybe I'm going to have to sit down and re-watch all of them, because I only watched a few just for this episode.

[00:37:11] [SPEAKER_07]: And think, oh yeah, there's that whole episode where she has a fight with Daniel.

[00:37:15] [SPEAKER_07]: And then, I know, it's such teen drama.

[00:37:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, once you start getting into the cult stuff, then it really takes off.

[00:37:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, here it is.

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_07]: A change in my life.

[00:37:25] [SPEAKER_03]: So today I got some really cool news from my parents.

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_03]: I've been chosen to participate in a ceremony.

[00:37:33] [SPEAKER_03]: The ceremony is a really big deal in my religion.

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_03]: They only have them once in a really long while, and it's very, very difficult to attend.

[00:37:41] [SPEAKER_03]: My parents won't even be allowed to come.

[00:37:43] [SPEAKER_03]: It's a big honor, and it's going to take a lot of preparation.

[00:37:45] [SPEAKER_03]: There's a bunch of stuff that I'm going to have to memorize.

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_07]: So that one's particularly interesting, because I can see the green screen.

[00:37:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Where her face...

[00:37:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh yeah.

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, so that's kind of where...

[00:37:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, now we're shooting on a set.

[00:38:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm sorry.

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_08]: The lanky Kong Joel hat.

[00:38:07] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, my recommendations are completely fucked.

[00:38:10] [SPEAKER_08]: Your recommendations is such a good thing.

[00:38:13] [SPEAKER_08]: What do you mean?

[00:38:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Have you seen the Curious George one?

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

[00:38:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh man.

[00:38:19] [SPEAKER_09]: I heard about Pizza Kate.

[00:38:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Joel Haver, fantastic.

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I love that he got a bit of a cameo on The Latest Smiling Friends.

[00:38:28] [SPEAKER_07]: That was so good.

[00:38:29] [SPEAKER_09]: So fucking funny.

[00:38:30] [SPEAKER_07]: But if it weren't for Lonely Girl 15, we wouldn't have the Joel Havers.

[00:38:34] [SPEAKER_07]: We wouldn't have the...

[00:38:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Even people who do this legitimately.

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_07]: People like Chatt Chat.

[00:38:39] [SPEAKER_07]: You name it.

[00:38:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Sure.

[00:38:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Somebody who speaks to a cameo.

[00:38:42] [SPEAKER_10]: I guess we wouldn't even have the angry video game nerd.

[00:38:44] [SPEAKER_07]: We wouldn't.

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_07]: At least.

[00:38:46] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, for the fact that you can...

[00:38:48] [SPEAKER_07]: They kind of set the tone and the style.

[00:38:51] [SPEAKER_07]: It's low frills, no budget.

[00:38:53] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[00:38:54] [SPEAKER_07]: And that worked for them.

[00:38:55] [SPEAKER_07]: That was the time when no one was making money from online video and now everyone is.

[00:39:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Allegedly.

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_07]: The headline of that New York article was,

[00:39:03] [SPEAKER_07]: The Lonely Girl That Really Wasn't.

[00:39:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I'm pretty sure filming with a bunch of weird dudes.

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_07]: She was probably pretty lonely anyway.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:39:09] [SPEAKER_09]: I bet like a starving actress just got off the bus.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:39:13] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm sure she was feeling a little lonely.

[00:39:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm.

[00:39:17] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it's an interesting experiment.

[00:39:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_09]: I'll definitely have the...

[00:39:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And I see it was very successful.

[00:39:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, here's something.

[00:39:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Speaking of things that are very successful.

[00:39:29] [SPEAKER_09]: It's Chattat JPEG.

[00:39:31] [SPEAKER_06]: And now, the moment you've all been waiting for.

[00:39:36] [SPEAKER_06]: Chattat JPEG.

[00:39:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh boy, Brian.

[00:39:39] [SPEAKER_07]: We got one this week called Dysfunctional Family.

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Dysfunctionalfamily.org.

[00:39:44] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a couch with an old lady on the far right with a drink in her hand looking down

[00:39:50] [SPEAKER_07]: at the family dog.

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a gentleman on the other side, on the left, falling asleep with a pillow in his

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_07]: hand.

[00:39:55] [SPEAKER_07]: And in the middle is a guy nude with his shirt on or with a something.

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_09]: With a dress shirt, but otherwise completely naked.

[00:40:03] [SPEAKER_07]: And a dog licking him.

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_09]: That is...

[00:40:07] [SPEAKER_09]: What is the deal?

[00:40:10] [SPEAKER_09]: See, when you told me Dysfunctional Family, I thought it was the one that looks like some

[00:40:14] [SPEAKER_09]: girl is punching a naked dude in the dick.

[00:40:19] [SPEAKER_09]: The guy totally looks like a dad.

[00:40:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Do you know what I'm talking about?

[00:40:22] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't, but I'll have to find that one for next week.

[00:40:24] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I...

[00:40:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, right in the...

[00:40:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, right in the bread basket.

[00:40:30] [SPEAKER_07]: And then below that, aside from more funny pictures and video, heyyah.org, is another

[00:40:36] [SPEAKER_07]: photo.

[00:40:37] [SPEAKER_07]: A gentleman on the right side of the couch this time.

[00:40:40] [SPEAKER_07]: And next to him, the young daughter.

[00:40:42] [SPEAKER_07]: And then on the far side of the couch is, I guess, the mother.

[00:40:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Pantsless.

[00:40:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, dress pulled up, pantsless, cup of coffee in hand, slack jawed.

[00:40:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Very strange, very strange juxtaposition of pictures.

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_07]: But yes, she does not appear to have any underwear on either.

[00:40:58] [SPEAKER_07]: And it's just very bizarre.

[00:41:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I like this one because it's like, well, nobody's getting hurt.

[00:41:05] [SPEAKER_07]: There's no doo-doo.

[00:41:06] [SPEAKER_07]: No pee-pee.

[00:41:07] [SPEAKER_07]: No pee-pee.

[00:41:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Just weird.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_07]: Just weird.

[00:41:09] [SPEAKER_07]: I just...

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_07]: The one where it looks like the dog is licking his dick.

[00:41:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, you know...

[00:41:15] [SPEAKER_09]: It's funny you mentioned a dog licking its own dick.

[00:41:20] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:41:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Because my girlfriend, a week or two ago, I'm at work.

[00:41:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And she sends me a text.

[00:41:26] [SPEAKER_09]: And she's like, the dog fell asleep licking its own dick.

[00:41:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, no.

[00:41:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Remember I said, I showed you that photo.

[00:41:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Head buried in his crotch.

[00:41:38] [SPEAKER_09]: Snoring, apparently.

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:41:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Just living the dream.

[00:41:42] [SPEAKER_09]: I wish I could lick my genitals until I dozed off.

[00:41:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, I mean, really.

[00:41:46] [SPEAKER_07]: That would be comforting, I think, at a certain point.

[00:41:48] [SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't even matter if you come.

[00:41:52] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't think that was a concern of the dog.

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, it's just for fun.

[00:41:56] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just for fun.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:41:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Guys being dudes.

[00:41:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:42:00] [SPEAKER_07]: What's wrong with that?

[00:42:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Dysfunctionalfamily.org.

[00:42:05] [SPEAKER_07]: The headline, do you have a dysfunctional family?

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_07]: If so, tell us about it here.

[00:42:10] [SPEAKER_07]: The here goes to 99.com.

[00:42:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't even, I don't know if it's even safe to, even with webarchive.com.

[00:42:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:42:20] [SPEAKER_07]: It's some.

[00:42:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Anime thing.

[00:42:24] [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, this was the state of shock sites.

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_07]: You could just do that.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:42:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Just be like, hey, there's a dog about to lick a man's penis.

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_07]: On the Screamer Wiki where I found this, the comments are great.

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Site is defunct.

[00:42:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:42:40] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.

[00:42:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Most of these are.

[00:42:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Anonymous number two.

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Heya.org is stupid porn.

[00:42:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, I don't want to watch Pornhub.

[00:42:47] [SPEAKER_09]: And third one.

[00:42:48] [SPEAKER_09]: LOL.

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_09]: The site doesn't work.

[00:42:52] [SPEAKER_07]: And most of these were like less than three years ago.

[00:42:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Like, yeah, dude, this is from like the early 2000s.

[00:43:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Or this says, yeah, it was closed 2016.

[00:43:04] [SPEAKER_07]: 2015.

[00:43:06] [SPEAKER_07]: So 2013 would have been the release date.

[00:43:11] [SPEAKER_07]: And I don't know.

[00:43:12] [SPEAKER_07]: It just, you could do anything.

[00:43:14] [SPEAKER_07]: You could do anything.

[00:43:15] [SPEAKER_07]: Do anything on the air in that, folks.

[00:43:17] [SPEAKER_09]: You'd be as gross and as weird as you like.

[00:43:19] Kambala.

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Kambala.

[00:43:22] [SPEAKER_07]: Kambala.

[00:43:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Kambala.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Kambala.

[00:43:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Kambala.

[00:43:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Apparently, he gave some sort of press conference today where he came off incredibly incoherent.

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_09]: He's looking rough.

[00:43:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Mm-hmm.

[00:43:34] [SPEAKER_09]: My dude needs a five-hour energy.

[00:43:36] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh.

[00:43:37] [SPEAKER_07]: He needs to boof it.

[00:43:40] [SPEAKER_10]: Folks.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_10]: Folks.

[00:43:41] [SPEAKER_10]: I took the five-hour energy in the caboose.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_10]: Yes.

[00:43:45] [SPEAKER_10]: I'm feeling great.

[00:43:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Stevie Nicks told me about that one, folks.

[00:43:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that was gross.

[00:43:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, speaking of boofing, it's time for the breath mint.

[00:43:57] [SPEAKER_11]: It's time for your mom's favorite part of the show.

[00:44:00] [SPEAKER_11]: It's time for the breath mint.

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Brian?

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah?

[00:44:05] [SPEAKER_07]: What do you got for us this week, buddy?

[00:44:07] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, jeez.

[00:44:08] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, jeez.

[00:44:09] [SPEAKER_10]: Oh, jeez.

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, jeez.

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I was going to go see Folk Implosion last night, but tour never got back to us.

[00:44:16] [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't want to spend $35 for a show that I was going to have to leave early.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:44:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Not great.

[00:44:21] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I could probably bother someone who got put on the list, but I was super tired.

[00:44:26] [SPEAKER_09]: I was like, ah, well, there goes the only chance I'm ever going to see Folk Implosion,

[00:44:31] [SPEAKER_09]: probably.

[00:44:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Unless they're doing a state fair in a couple years, I guess.

[00:44:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, I was just like, oh, well.

[00:44:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I was such a weird edgelord teenager that kids in Gummo were big movies.

[00:44:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Were you a Folk Implosion fan?

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Did you?

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, that was a very celebrated soundtrack.

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Sure.

[00:44:53] [SPEAKER_09]: And the way that it was circulated around us was like, it's this weird band.

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_09]: They don't really have any other music.

[00:44:59] [SPEAKER_09]: It's just this soundtrack, basically.

[00:45:01] [SPEAKER_09]: I brought it up once to my brother about the movie Kids being kind of a thing in my friend

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_09]: group when I was younger.

[00:45:08] [SPEAKER_09]: I was probably just out of high school.

[00:45:10] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_09]: And for, I can't remember if it was for Christmas or for one of my birthdays, he had found a

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_09]: used copy of it at Amoeba, and he sent it to me as a gift.

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And I was like, oh, you know, if I get confirmation, shoot, I'll see if I can get them to sign

[00:45:28] [SPEAKER_09]: the copy of the soundtrack.

[00:45:32] [SPEAKER_09]: And, but it didn't happen, but whatever.

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I think the one thing I want to talk about is Scott Pilgrim takes off.

[00:45:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, have you watched the Scott Pilgrim show?

[00:45:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I just watched it in some of my rare free time over the last week or so.

[00:45:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[00:45:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Have you seen it?

[00:45:49] [SPEAKER_07]: I got caught up with the Reaper.

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_07]: That's the show that kids and I are watching, which is the guys taking souls back to hell

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_07]: for the devil played by Ray Wise.

[00:45:58] [SPEAKER_07]: It's great stuff.

[00:45:59] [SPEAKER_07]: But no, I did not catch up on the Scott Pilgrim show.

[00:46:03] [SPEAKER_07]: So good?

[00:46:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Fantastic.

[00:46:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh.

[00:46:06] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I guess your mileage may vary.

[00:46:08] [SPEAKER_09]: It depends on how you feel about the original comic and how you feel about the movie.

[00:46:12] [SPEAKER_09]: I found the comic to be really dry and dated.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:46:16] [SPEAKER_09]: Various parts of the comic did not age well.

[00:46:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_09]: It feels like deviant art.

[00:46:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, Brian Lee O'Malley even said as much in recent years.

[00:46:28] [SPEAKER_09]: He's a Canadian guy who drew a weird kind of manga style comic by like a how to draw manga

[00:46:38] [SPEAKER_09]: book that you get like at a scholastic fare.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:46:41] [SPEAKER_09]: You're not wrong.

[00:46:42] [SPEAKER_09]: But I was a big fan of the movie.

[00:46:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Me too.

[00:46:46] [SPEAKER_09]: A one in the million kind of cast.

[00:46:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Just like talk about stars aligning.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_07]: God.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:46:50] [SPEAKER_07]: May Whitman and Chris.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_07]: I was like everybody.

[00:46:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:46:54] [SPEAKER_09]: It's such a very imaginative and enjoyable movie.

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, it's an Edgar Wright movie.

[00:47:00] [SPEAKER_07]: So I kind of figured that was going to happen.

[00:47:02] [SPEAKER_07]: He's got a bit of a track record for that sort of thing.

[00:47:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I think it's also one of the few.

[00:47:07] [SPEAKER_09]: I think with Scott Pilgrim, the comic, the TV show and the movie, it's one of the few

[00:47:12] [SPEAKER_09]: things that has video game references that doesn't feel grown worthy.

[00:47:17] [SPEAKER_09]: It doesn't feel pandering.

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_09]: If that makes sense to say like it's like, oh, this is like endearing.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:47:23] [SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't make you cringe.

[00:47:25] [SPEAKER_09]: That the door that Ramona uses to go into the subspace is the door from Super Mario

[00:47:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Brothers 2 or that her purse is the symbol that's on King Dedede's mallet.

[00:47:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:47:42] [SPEAKER_09]: And like all these little video game references and they're just like, well, it's funny and

[00:47:46] [SPEAKER_09]: it doesn't draw a ton of attention to it.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:47:49] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like, you know, there's a band that's mentioned called the Clash of Demon Head.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:47:53] [SPEAKER_09]: And no one's like, oh, there's no like, no one's explaining the reference.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly.

[00:47:57] [SPEAKER_07]: It's either you get it or you don't.

[00:47:59] [SPEAKER_07]: And if you don't, that's fine.

[00:48:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Or Sex Bob-omb.

[00:48:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:48:03] [SPEAKER_09]: Just like it's world building.

[00:48:05] [SPEAKER_09]: It's interesting.

[00:48:07] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not too heavy handed.

[00:48:08] [SPEAKER_09]: The show brings back pretty much the entire cast from the movie.

[00:48:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Nice.

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_09]: And is a reimagining of the original story.

[00:48:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[00:48:20] [SPEAKER_09]: And it goes a lot of different places.

[00:48:22] [SPEAKER_09]: It gives all the other characters, all the evil exes a lot more room to breathe.

[00:48:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:48:30] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think that's great for a lot of different ways.

[00:48:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Mostly because so many of those, like the actors that played the evil exes, they're only

[00:48:43] [SPEAKER_09]: in the movie for 10, 15 minutes a piece.

[00:48:45] [SPEAKER_09]: But what memorable 15 minutes they have.

[00:48:49] [SPEAKER_09]: And now they get the whole entire episode or even more than that to stretch out and be

[00:48:55] [SPEAKER_09]: those characters.

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's a lot of fun.

[00:48:58] [SPEAKER_09]: It's funny.

[00:48:59] [SPEAKER_09]: It's thoughtful.

[00:49:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Do you want me to spoil the big twist at the beginning?

[00:49:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I read the comics.

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_07]: So is it about...

[00:49:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Matthew Patel kills Scott Pilgrim.

[00:49:11] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[00:49:12] [SPEAKER_09]: And he becomes the head of the evil exes and beats the shit out of Gideon and takes over

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Gideon's empire and Gideon has to become like some schmuck.

[00:49:22] [SPEAKER_09]: But Ramona is like, well, what the fuck?

[00:49:25] [SPEAKER_09]: This guy I went on one great date with is now dead.

[00:49:29] [SPEAKER_09]: And in her mourning, she finds...

[00:49:32] [SPEAKER_09]: She explores her own inadequacies as a partner to these evil exes and tries to make amends

[00:49:40] [SPEAKER_09]: or at least tries to soften the hurt.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Huh.

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_09]: And I think it's a much more interesting story than fighting a chick's evil ex-boyfriends

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_09]: so you can own her in a way.

[00:49:53] [SPEAKER_07]: True.

[00:49:54] [SPEAKER_07]: That is the weird sexist thing that I always thought was at the...

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Unfortunately, at the beating heart of that story.

[00:50:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Sure.

[00:50:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Interesting.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:50:03] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.

[00:50:04] [SPEAKER_09]: And it goes...

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_09]: And there's other twists.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_09]: Sure.

[00:50:06] [SPEAKER_09]: But that's the big shift from the narrative that we already know.

[00:50:11] [SPEAKER_07]: So Michael Cera's in it for like two seconds.

[00:50:16] [SPEAKER_09]: He's barely in it after the first episode.

[00:50:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Sure.

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_09]: But he reappears itself.

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[00:50:22] [SPEAKER_09]: All right.

[00:50:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, Color Me in Treat because that's an interesting take and I'm very interested in it.

[00:50:27] [SPEAKER_09]: The animation is fun.

[00:50:30] [SPEAKER_09]: It doesn't have the back music, which is a bit of a bummer, but it's still good.

[00:50:38] [SPEAKER_09]: I just...

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_09]: It feels like a victory lap for that cast and getting to tell, I think honestly, a much more

[00:50:47] [SPEAKER_09]: interesting story than the original.

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_09]: It doesn't have...

[00:50:51] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, if you're someone that likes the kind of tongue-in-cheek, low-key video game

[00:50:56] [SPEAKER_09]: references, you're probably going to be a little disappointed.

[00:50:58] [SPEAKER_09]: But if you really enjoy the sense of humor that the comic and the movie had, I think you'll

[00:51:09] [SPEAKER_09]: really get a lot of it.

[00:51:10] [SPEAKER_09]: And even if you're not super familiar with the original source material or the movie, I

[00:51:16] [SPEAKER_09]: think it's a lot of fun.

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_09]: And it just seems like everyone there is just having such a great time recording.

[00:51:24] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:51:25] [SPEAKER_09]: It's something I thought is like, do we really need this?

[00:51:27] [SPEAKER_09]: When I heard this announced, do we need this?

[00:51:29] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, it's cool.

[00:51:30] [SPEAKER_09]: It's the original cast.

[00:51:32] [SPEAKER_09]: Kieran McColkin.

[00:51:33] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm not going to correct you.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

[00:51:34] [SPEAKER_09]: Am I saying it right?

[00:51:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Colkin.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Colkin.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_09]: There we go.

[00:51:37] [SPEAKER_09]: Kieran Culkin.

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Kieran Culkin.

[00:51:39] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, he's obviously such a much bigger star.

[00:51:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Brie Larson is in Chris Evans.

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_09]: Much bigger stars.

[00:51:44] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_09]: But they're all just fucking chewing the scenery.

[00:51:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I love it.

[00:51:48] [SPEAKER_09]: And Mae Whitman's back, I'm assuming.

[00:51:49] [SPEAKER_09]: She's fucking funny.

[00:51:51] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a celebration of that source material.

[00:51:53] [SPEAKER_09]: And I feel as well as improving upon it.

[00:51:57] [SPEAKER_09]: And for me, there's a lot of elements to that story outside of the more magical realism type stuff that is reminiscent of some of the stuff I went through when I was in my late teens, early 20s.

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_09]: It very much feels like a mid-millennial kind of story.

[00:52:17] [SPEAKER_09]: If you break it down to being in a crappy band, your loser friend who's dating a high schooler, just some of the circumstances, some of the characterization.

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_09]: I think if you're of a certain age, you probably had a Ramona Flowers at that age.

[00:52:35] [SPEAKER_09]: That one person that was like a little too good and you're kind of fighting for them or you're trying to not let them go.

[00:52:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Or maybe the one you can't get over because that's the thing with the evil exes on some levels.

[00:52:47] [SPEAKER_09]: They can't get over her.

[00:52:48] [SPEAKER_07]: They can't get over her.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:52:49] [SPEAKER_09]: It was enjoyable.

[00:52:50] [SPEAKER_09]: It's well animated.

[00:52:51] [SPEAKER_09]: I laughed a lot more than I thought I was going to.

[00:52:54] [SPEAKER_07]: That's always a good sign.

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_09]: A lot of good...

[00:52:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Aubrey Plaza.

[00:52:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, right.

[00:53:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, that's right.

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_07]: She had that small role in the movie.

[00:53:03] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm sure her character gets a lot more room to breathe.

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_07]: A lot more time.

[00:53:08] [SPEAKER_09]: They kind of run her shtick into the ground a little bit, but it's still a lot of fun.

[00:53:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:53:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I consider myself hyped for this.

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I was not until I heard that big twist and I was like,

[00:53:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, okay.

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_07]: All right.

[00:53:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Again, like all of the evil exes, all of those voice actors, all those actors,

[00:53:25] [SPEAKER_09]: they get to have so much more involvement in the story.

[00:53:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Not all of them necessarily get deeper.

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Sure.

[00:53:32] [SPEAKER_09]: But you get to have more time with them, more time for jokes or circumstances.

[00:53:36] [SPEAKER_07]: That's all you want sometimes for some of these people.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:53:39] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't really need to know the inner motivations of the vegan guy.

[00:53:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:53:44] [SPEAKER_09]: You don't really get into his inner motivations as far as being a vegan too much,

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_09]: but it's kind of funny that two of her evil exes are himbos.

[00:53:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Mm-hmm.

[00:53:53] [SPEAKER_07]: What was the vegan guy in the movie?

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_07]: That was Brandon Ruth, right?

[00:53:56] [SPEAKER_09]: I think so.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:53:57] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:53:58] [SPEAKER_07]: I just want to make sure because the boy, he's got, he definitely has a look.

[00:54:01] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, can you believe that the guy was Superman?

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Wow.

[00:54:05] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:54:06] [SPEAKER_09]: I forgot about that.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:54:07] [SPEAKER_09]: He's 44.

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:54:09] [SPEAKER_09]: He does not look for you.

[00:54:10] [SPEAKER_07]: He does not, no.

[00:54:11] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know if you ever saw the adaptation that he was in called Dylan Dog, Dead of Night.

[00:54:16] [SPEAKER_08]: No.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Pretty decent.

[00:54:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Anyway.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[00:54:18] [SPEAKER_07]: I like him a lot.

[00:54:19] [SPEAKER_09]: But if you have a special spot in your heart for the movie or the comic, I think you'll

[00:54:23] [SPEAKER_09]: probably like the show quite a bit.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_09]: Awesome.

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER_09]: It's how Malaguchi does a lot of the music.

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_09]: So they did a lot of the music for the, the BMUP game that came out.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes.

[00:54:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I was about to say they did a re-release of the video game, right?

[00:54:34] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:54:35] [SPEAKER_09]: I have it.

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_09]: I have it.

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_09]: And no one to play it with.

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh no.

[00:54:38] [SPEAKER_09]: I brought it over to a friend's house and there was four of us there or I've logged into a

[00:54:43] [SPEAKER_09]: friend's Xbox.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:54:44] [SPEAKER_09]: And we had four controllers and they all lost interest in about 10 minutes.

[00:54:53] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, not River City Ransom players.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_07]: I take it.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:54:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:54:56] [SPEAKER_09]: And like, I had been like waiting probably a decade.

[00:54:58] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh man.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_09]: To play this.

[00:54:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh man.

[00:55:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, cause I got it on the PS3 and I've had it on this very same PS3 since I first

[00:55:06] [SPEAKER_07]: got it.

[00:55:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Cause I bought it on the PSN store for like 15 bucks and that was, you know, 2011 or so.

[00:55:15] [SPEAKER_07]: So I've, I still haven't beaten it, but I've gotten pretty far.

[00:55:18] [SPEAKER_07]: But yeah, it definitely is made for more than one player.

[00:55:21] [SPEAKER_07]: It feels like, but maybe one day.

[00:55:25] [SPEAKER_09]: What you got chief?

[00:55:26] [SPEAKER_07]: What I have is something that you brought to my attention and that D dropped off a copy

[00:55:32] [SPEAKER_07]: of.

[00:55:33] [SPEAKER_07]: I mentioned it last week that I wound up watching Garfield instead.

[00:55:37] [SPEAKER_07]: That's right, folks.

[00:55:38] [SPEAKER_07]: The French horror movie.

[00:55:41] [SPEAKER_09]: Do you hate martyrs?

[00:55:43] [SPEAKER_09]: Do I hate martyrs?

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_09]: I hate martyrs.

[00:55:46] [SPEAKER_09]: No, actually.

[00:55:47] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm making a riff on I hate Mondays.

[00:55:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh yes, I do.

[00:55:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I did.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:55:52] [SPEAKER_07]: If it's, if it's like that, then yes.

[00:55:54] [SPEAKER_07]: No, I did not hate martyrs.

[00:55:55] [SPEAKER_07]: I enjoyed martyrs in a way that probably is going to put me on a list somewhere.

[00:56:02] [SPEAKER_07]: So for those of you who are not in the know, martyrs is a movie about two young women, one

[00:56:08] [SPEAKER_07]: whom had escaped from a kidnap and torture scenario, let's say, and was locked up in a mental institution.

[00:56:14] [SPEAKER_07]: She gets out, she takes revenge on the family that she believes performed this hideous act upon her and then calls upon her friend.

[00:56:23] [SPEAKER_07]: Hey, yeah, you got to help me out.

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm I've just killed like four people.

[00:56:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Shit's fucked.

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_07]: And then things go sideways from there.

[00:56:32] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not going to spoil the rest of the movie, but I will say this.

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_07]: It is quite possibly the most visceral experience I've had watching a movie in a very long time.

[00:56:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Not in a bad way, but just it.

[00:56:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I felt things physically that I was not expecting to feel from watching a movie.

[00:56:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:56:52] [SPEAKER_09]: Fox with you.

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_07]: It doesn't happen often.

[00:56:54] [SPEAKER_07]: Listen, I think the only other movie that hit me that hard was probably.

[00:57:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Dancer in the dark for very different reasons.

[00:57:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, I guess it's for the same reason, because I feel so much for the character that's that this is happening to.

[00:57:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, things things go off the rails.

[00:57:16] [SPEAKER_07]: It's a movie about violence and religion.

[00:57:19] [SPEAKER_07]: And it's also about horror movies and like, why is it just women that all this violence happens to in horror movies?

[00:57:26] [SPEAKER_07]: It's concerned with a lot of different things.

[00:57:29] [SPEAKER_07]: And it does them all very, very well.

[00:57:32] [SPEAKER_07]: To me, the funniest thing, because, you know, it's really hard to kind of see the humor in something like this.

[00:57:37] [SPEAKER_07]: But the funniest thing, and I think I mentioned this to you, is that on the DVD, there's an option to watch an introduction by the director.

[00:57:45] [SPEAKER_07]: And so if you do that, it opens with, he's clearly just like in his home.

[00:57:51] [SPEAKER_07]: And he's saying, yeah, I don't know what his exact words were, but the feeling you get is, I'm sorry for what's about to happen to you.

[00:58:01] [SPEAKER_07]: It's kind of the vibe that I get from watching that intro.

[00:58:05] [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, he was right to be sorry, because it feels like a movie that you shouldn't inflict on someone.

[00:58:12] [SPEAKER_07]: At the same time, I feel like everyone should see it.

[00:58:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, that back third.

[00:58:16] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:58:18] [SPEAKER_09]: It goes some places.

[00:58:21] [SPEAKER_09]: Me and Dee were talking about it a couple days ago.

[00:58:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And she was like, you know, the thing, like, it's probably of that era, probably that and like Serbia, a Serbian film, probably like the two like most transgressive and like hard to watch horror movies.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[00:58:36] [SPEAKER_09]: Of that, of that time.

[00:58:38] [SPEAKER_09]: But as she put it, is that Serbian film is just like grotesque and exploitative.

[00:58:45] [SPEAKER_09]: I'm paraphrasing here.

[00:58:46] [SPEAKER_09]: These aren't her exact words.

[00:58:47] [SPEAKER_09]: Right.

[00:58:48] [SPEAKER_09]: But basically, like, it's shocking.

[00:58:50] [SPEAKER_09]: It's gross.

[00:58:51] [SPEAKER_09]: But it's like technically like not that great of a movie.

[00:58:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Whereas like Martyrs is all those things, but is actually a well made movie.

[00:59:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Also, because I think Martyrs is saying something as opposed to just being exploitative for the sake of being exploitative.

[00:59:09] [SPEAKER_07]: This is my conversation I have with Dee on Messenger here says,

[00:59:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I was saying there's a reason for the brutality versus an Eli Roth hostile style of thing.

[00:59:20] [SPEAKER_07]: It's also saying something about horror movies.

[00:59:23] [SPEAKER_07]: And then she responds with,

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I feel that it said a number of interesting things about many topics, fear of death, religion, trauma, the danger of rich people.

[00:59:33] [SPEAKER_07]: It truly hit so many points and managed to have a coherent, unique story.

[00:59:39] [SPEAKER_07]: So I think that's about the best way to describe it.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[00:59:44] [SPEAKER_07]: Taking it straight from taking it straight from her because, yeah, she put the nail on the head there.

[00:59:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I can't really say it any better.

[00:59:53] [SPEAKER_07]: And honestly, I can't recommend it enough.

[00:59:55] [SPEAKER_07]: But I will say, you know, go into it knowing that this is it's rough.

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_07]: It's going to be a rough watch.

[01:00:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Um, I had to, I had to take a break about halfway through and like, I'll take, just take a quick walk around the yard for a minute to just like get out of my head.

[01:00:15] [SPEAKER_07]: And like, okay, okay, let's get back to this.

[01:00:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm, I'm, I want to see where this goes.

[01:00:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Other movies I've done, like I'm hostile part two.

[01:00:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I just straight up walked away.

[01:00:26] [SPEAKER_07]: I just never came back to it.

[01:00:28] [SPEAKER_07]: But this one, I feel like is doing something on a level that Eli Roth just can't hit.

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_07]: Just can't.

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:00:39] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, his.

[01:00:40] [SPEAKER_09]: Well, I mean, he apparently can't because that Borderlands movie is, I think as, as this recording has a 0% on Rotten Tomatoes.

[01:00:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Has a 6%.

[01:00:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Has a 6%.

[01:00:52] [SPEAKER_07]: But I think if I remember correctly, sorry, two positive reviews, Screen Rant and Movie Web.

[01:00:59] [SPEAKER_07]: So not really the top critics there.

[01:01:03] [SPEAKER_07]: David Feer of Rolling Stone.

[01:01:05] [SPEAKER_07]: It's not a movie for critics as the saying goes, nor is it suitable for consumption by most gamers, film lovers, or 99% of carbon-based life forms.

[01:01:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Yowza.

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Uh, Nick Schlager of the Daily Beast.

[01:01:21] [SPEAKER_07]: So drearily routine and slapdash that even an AI would deem it too plagiaristic.

[01:01:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Ew.

[01:01:30] [SPEAKER_09]: It looks like dog shit.

[01:01:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:01:33] [SPEAKER_09]: Don't put it on the Plex.

[01:01:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay.

[01:01:37] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, we want to like do like a hate watch.

[01:01:40] [SPEAKER_07]: That's what I did with the remake of Robocop.

[01:01:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I didn't think that that was so bad.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:01:45] [SPEAKER_07]: It's 45 minutes too fucking long.

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_07]: Yes.

[01:01:48] [SPEAKER_07]: It wastes Gary Oldman even being in the fucking movie.

[01:01:52] [SPEAKER_07]: You got Samuel L. Jackson in it for no reason other than it's Samuel L. Jackson.

[01:01:56] [SPEAKER_07]: You waste Michael Keaton.

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_07]: There's no fucking reason for half of these characters to be there.

[01:02:01] [SPEAKER_07]: It also just takes all the fangs out of any social commentary that the original had.

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_07]: I feel like you could nuke 45 minutes to an hour off that movie and you'd still have a piece of shit.

[01:02:14] [SPEAKER_07]: I have a very hard time with anyone remaking Verhoeven.

[01:02:20] [SPEAKER_07]: It's the same thing with that piece of shit Total Recall remake that was fucking Colin Farrell in the lead.

[01:02:26] [SPEAKER_07]: But anyway, sorry.

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Martyrs.

[01:02:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Watch it.

[01:02:29] [SPEAKER_07]: But watch it with the reservation that you probably won't like it at first.

[01:02:35] [SPEAKER_07]: It will grow on you.

[01:02:37] [SPEAKER_07]: But it's going to be rough.

[01:02:40] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't think I can watch it again.

[01:02:42] [SPEAKER_07]: But I will recommend it to anyone because it is ultimately worth it.

[01:02:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Speaking of Watchmen.

[01:02:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, yeah.

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Have you gone back and rewatched the HBO limited series?

[01:02:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I have actually.

[01:02:55] [SPEAKER_09]: I am.

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_09]: I thought I rewatched a couple episodes and I was like, oh, this is worse than I remember.

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Really?

[01:03:02] [SPEAKER_07]: Because I had the opposite.

[01:03:04] [SPEAKER_07]: I kind of had the opposite reaction.

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I really thought that it was a way to take what you already know and do something different with it.

[01:03:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought it was an interesting choice.

[01:03:15] [SPEAKER_07]: I thought the this idea that cops have reclaimed the vigilante masked hero thing as their own.

[01:03:27] [SPEAKER_07]: It's kind of like, yeah, of course, that's what's going to happen.

[01:03:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Because, I mean, you already see it with cops with the fucking Punisher shit all over their cop cars.

[01:03:35] [SPEAKER_07]: So I felt like, OK, well, that I guess that kind of tracks.

[01:03:39] [SPEAKER_10]: Yeah.

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't like the fact that the first introduction we get to Lady Midnight is the fact that she's a cop.

[01:03:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, or that the coolest mask in the show is also a cop.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[01:03:52] [SPEAKER_07]: But I do like that we're still kind of on the trail of Dr. Manhattan.

[01:03:57] [SPEAKER_07]: I like that we kind of see the diabolical punishment they gave to Ozymandias.

[01:04:03] [SPEAKER_09]: That part I forgot about.

[01:04:05] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's kind of something that's really fun.

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:04:07] [SPEAKER_07]: So, I mean, there's a lot of interesting stuff.

[01:04:09] [SPEAKER_07]: And I think conceptually it's like, well, how do you do something like that?

[01:04:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, this is how.

[01:04:16] [SPEAKER_07]: And I think for what it was, and I think the ending notwithstanding, I felt like, OK, all right, we're kind of copping out here, guys.

[01:04:24] [SPEAKER_07]: With the expectation that there was going to be a second season, which never happened.

[01:04:28] [SPEAKER_07]: But I feel like for the most part, it was an interesting ride.

[01:04:31] [SPEAKER_07]: And it was an interesting extension of what we had already seen.

[01:04:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Stylistically, it looks great.

[01:04:36] [SPEAKER_07]: I've always thought that the leads in that are all great.

[01:04:40] [SPEAKER_07]: So, I mean, I don't really have a lot of complaints about it.

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_09]: So, what Nazi torture would you put David Lindelof under?

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_07]: None.

[01:04:47] [SPEAKER_07]: I love The Leftovers.

[01:04:48] [SPEAKER_09]: I definitely would put Bleach in his eyes.

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_07]: Really?

[01:04:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I like The Leftovers, too.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_07]: I like Laws.

[01:04:52] [SPEAKER_07]: I mean, was it just Watchmen or was there something else that bothered you?

[01:04:57] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, he's got like a whole entire history of being really sus.

[01:05:01] [SPEAKER_07]: OK, personal-wise.

[01:05:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Like a creative individual.

[01:05:05] [SPEAKER_07]: Divorcing that from its...

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_09]: Leslie Lee III of Struggle Session.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_09]: OK.

[01:05:10] [SPEAKER_09]: I think it's really...

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_09]: If we wanted to bring someone on here to tell us...

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_07]: To disavow me of my Lindelof worship.

[01:05:18] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:05:19] [SPEAKER_09]: We'll bring him on.

[01:05:20] [SPEAKER_09]: OK.

[01:05:22] [SPEAKER_09]: Fair enough.

[01:05:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I'll send him a...

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_09]: We're mutuals.

[01:05:25] [SPEAKER_09]: I'll send him a DM.

[01:05:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:05:27] [SPEAKER_09]: DM and be like, will you come on the podcast for like 30 minutes?

[01:05:29] [SPEAKER_09]: Just to berate my co-host.

[01:05:31] [SPEAKER_09]: Just to berate, because he thinks David Lindelof has got worth as a person.

[01:05:35] [SPEAKER_07]: I didn't say as a person.

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_07]: I said as a creator.

[01:05:38] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a distinct difference.

[01:05:39] [SPEAKER_07]: There's a distinct difference.

[01:05:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Art from the artist.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Fuck that.

[01:05:42] [SPEAKER_07]: You know.

[01:05:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I think the episode I went back to was the Hood Justice episode.

[01:05:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Which...

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I remember being one of the few episodes I actually liked when I originally watched it.

[01:05:54] [SPEAKER_09]: But I was like, you know what?

[01:05:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Let me give it a shot.

[01:05:56] [SPEAKER_09]: It's been a couple years.

[01:05:57] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'm like, oh, this doesn't...

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_09]: I don't know if this hits.

[01:05:59] [SPEAKER_07]: I always felt like that was the strongest one of the bunch.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I think so, too.

[01:06:05] [SPEAKER_09]: I just...

[01:06:06] [SPEAKER_09]: I think also with like the stuff about...

[01:06:08] [SPEAKER_09]: Some of the stuff it said about law enforcement in the era that it was made seems like a little

[01:06:14] [SPEAKER_09]: bit anti-liberal.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:06:17] [SPEAKER_09]: And...

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Sure.

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_09]: But pro-cop.

[01:06:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Right.

[01:06:20] [SPEAKER_07]: Again, I...

[01:06:21] [SPEAKER_09]: It's a very oddly conservative bit of media.

[01:06:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:06:26] [SPEAKER_07]: Look, you get an argument from me.

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_07]: It was a very odd choice because a lot of people, their first exposure to the fact that

[01:06:34] [SPEAKER_07]: there even was a Tulsa race ride was through that show.

[01:06:37] [SPEAKER_07]: So it's like one step forward, two steps back because you made all the heroes cobs.

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_07]: It's a...

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:06:42] [SPEAKER_07]: It's a mess.

[01:06:43] [SPEAKER_07]: It's got a lot of confused politics, let's say.

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_07]: Well...

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_07]: That's worth a rewatch.

[01:06:47] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll go back and look at it again.

[01:06:49] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.

[01:06:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I got some time off.

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, in that time off, you...

[01:06:53] [SPEAKER_09]: Where can people find me?

[01:06:54] [SPEAKER_09]: Where can people find me?

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, man.

[01:06:55] [SPEAKER_09]: There's a couple places.

[01:06:56] [SPEAKER_09]: You can go over to...

[01:06:58] [SPEAKER_09]: If you want to check out my photography portfolio, you head your sweet little cheeks over to assholemusicphotographer.com.

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[01:07:09] [SPEAKER_09]: If you want to check out the last and only good media website left in screwy St. Louis,

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_09]: head those cheeks henceforth over to a second location where you will not be mugged this time.

[01:07:21] [SPEAKER_09]: The artsstl.com.

[01:07:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Some really good foes of Red Hot Chili Peppers just went up.

[01:07:28] [SPEAKER_09]: Actually, a lot of shows, a lot of stuff just went up the last week or so.

[01:07:32] [SPEAKER_09]: My soft cult write-up and foes just went up.

[01:07:36] [SPEAKER_09]: That piece, I feel I kind of really belabored.

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_09]: I had to edit out, I think, like 500 words because it sounded like I was in a cabin listening to Bon Iver like cleaning guns.

[01:07:51] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, fair enough.

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_09]: I really got a little black-pilled there.

[01:07:55] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, man.

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_09]: And I still left in quite a bit of black-pilled shit in there.

[01:08:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Okay, you got to send me the unedited version because I've done it.

[01:08:04] [SPEAKER_09]: Did you read the soft cult?

[01:08:06] [SPEAKER_09]: No.

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_07]: I only read the Orville Peck one.

[01:08:09] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah, the Orville Peck is up, which I excreted out of my backside onto the keyboard.

[01:08:14] [SPEAKER_07]: Don't listen to him.

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_07]: It's good.

[01:08:16] [SPEAKER_09]: It's all right.

[01:08:17] [SPEAKER_09]: You could definitely tell I was just trying to get done with it.

[01:08:21] [SPEAKER_09]: But the foes, I'm really happy with.

[01:08:23] [SPEAKER_09]: One picture in particular is an image I don't think anyone else has ever made of Orville Peck.

[01:08:30] [SPEAKER_09]: And I feel like that is special and unique.

[01:08:36] [SPEAKER_09]: A lot of the other stuff is kind of like, yeah, there's a lot of other people who have made similar foes to what I captured.

[01:08:42] [SPEAKER_09]: Even other people that were at the same show photographing alongside me.

[01:08:46] [SPEAKER_09]: You know, there's some overlay.

[01:08:48] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:08:49] [SPEAKER_09]: In composition and color and all of that.

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_09]: But one photo in particular, it's a side profile shot where he's got an expression on his face and his eyes are just real piercing.

[01:09:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's not a particularly sharp image.

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_09]: The focus is definitely not there, but it is striking.

[01:09:10] [SPEAKER_07]: It's the header, right?

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_07]: That's what they used for the header?

[01:09:12] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, the black and white photo.

[01:09:13] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh, it's so good.

[01:09:14] [SPEAKER_09]: Thank you.

[01:09:15] [SPEAKER_09]: When I captured that moment, I knew I...

[01:09:18] [SPEAKER_09]: Did you know?

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_09]: I knew that I had gotten something interesting.

[01:09:22] [SPEAKER_09]: I did not know if the autofocus that it had gotten was accurate enough.

[01:09:26] [SPEAKER_09]: Oh, wow.

[01:09:27] [SPEAKER_09]: Because the lighting was really low.

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_09]: And that image was captured at 1 over 100 shutter speed, which is really tough for a good image and for some of the movement that Peck was doing.

[01:09:40] [SPEAKER_09]: But I kind of was just fingers crossed it would turn out okay.

[01:09:44] [SPEAKER_09]: And it did.

[01:09:45] [SPEAKER_09]: A little bit of luck.

[01:09:47] [SPEAKER_09]: But, I mean, for me, that's like if any of the photos that I took that night, that would be the one that I would like print and put on the wall.

[01:09:55] [SPEAKER_09]: But one of the things I think that gets lost when you create photography that's got some sort of consumptive element to it, like music photography or even some editorial, is that just having like a sharp, well-lit photo is really overrated.

[01:10:11] [SPEAKER_09]: There's plenty of really great photographs that were taken with way more primitive equipment than we have today that are really engrossing and interesting.

[01:10:21] [SPEAKER_09]: And the exposure isn't perfect.

[01:10:24] [SPEAKER_09]: The focus isn't perfect.

[01:10:26] [SPEAKER_09]: The lighting isn't perfect, but it's engrossing.

[01:10:29] [SPEAKER_09]: It's about getting something that's almost like outside of the known.

[01:10:34] [SPEAKER_09]: It's like you're capturing the light in a way that reality can't show.

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_09]: You're saying something that it's almost like you're pulling subtext out of the moment.

[01:10:42] [SPEAKER_09]: And if that photo was tack sharp and a little bit more properly exposed, I'm not sure if it would be technically, in my opinion, a better photo.

[01:10:53] [SPEAKER_09]: It would just be a nicer, a sharper photo of an image.

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_09]: What is considered to be good, I think, has become really narrow in photography in general.

[01:11:03] [SPEAKER_09]: And that's why I've never had an issue using sometimes really weird lenses, using kind of odd gear.

[01:11:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Because I think the results are different.

[01:11:15] [SPEAKER_09]: If I really wanted to just take super fucking nice photos, I'd go buy a Nikon Z6 Mark III and a bunch of their big fucking honking lenses.

[01:11:24] [SPEAKER_09]: And I'd take the exact same photos as everyone else.

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_09]: But I shoot with slightly different equipment.

[01:11:30] [SPEAKER_09]: Almost all the photos that I actually like besides that image were all photographed with a 135mm prime lens.

[01:11:38] [SPEAKER_09]: And that kind of saved my ass because I really can work with that lens.

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_09]: That's one that I don't have to think too much about using.

[01:11:47] [SPEAKER_07]: So you can shoot on instinct?

[01:11:49] [SPEAKER_09]: Pretty much.

[01:11:50] [SPEAKER_09]: I feel much more comfortable using that lens.

[01:11:53] [SPEAKER_09]: And it's weird because it's a long, it's a telephoto lens.

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_09]: It's not even a portrait lens.

[01:11:58] [SPEAKER_09]: It's what you would call a wide telephoto.

[01:12:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Okay.

[01:12:02] [SPEAKER_09]: But you can use it for portraiture just fine.

[01:12:04] [SPEAKER_09]: I mean, I remember when I felt that same way with a 50mm lens or a 35.

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_09]: So it's weird that that's the lens I feel really comfortable with now getting back into it.

[01:12:15] [SPEAKER_09]: But yeah, that's my little bit of artist corner here before I let Jason tell us his socials.

[01:12:23] [SPEAKER_09]: Jason, tell us your socials.

[01:12:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, you can find me on many different places as Video Crime.

[01:12:28] [SPEAKER_07]: V-I-D-E-O-C-R-I-M-E.

[01:12:31] [SPEAKER_07]: Chances are if there's video crime, that's going to be me.

[01:12:34] [SPEAKER_07]: You know, places like Twitter and Blue Sky and Letterboxd and all that stuff.

[01:12:39] [SPEAKER_07]: With the notable exceptions of TikTok and Instagram.

[01:12:41] [SPEAKER_07]: There I am Laser Goose CEO.

[01:12:44] [SPEAKER_07]: That's laser with an S.

[01:12:46] [SPEAKER_07]: You can also find me as part of the cast of International Weirdos on a show that is called

[01:12:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Submitted for the Approval of the Midnight Pals.

[01:12:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Based on the Twitter thread by Bitter Corella, former guest of the show.

[01:12:59] [SPEAKER_07]: Where I play a fictionalized version of Stephen King.

[01:13:03] [SPEAKER_07]: We are on track for Halloween being our second season premiere.

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Very excited for that.

[01:13:09] [SPEAKER_07]: You can reach out to the show in a variety of different ways.

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_07]: The best of which, of course, is the telephone.

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_07]: 314-246-9766.

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_07]: That's 314-AHOY-POOL.

[01:13:23] [SPEAKER_07]: You can also shoot us an email.

[01:13:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Jason at 48MinutesOfDogsBarking.com.

[01:13:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Brian with a Y at 48MinutesOfDogsBarking.com.

[01:13:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Support the show.

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Patreon.com slash 48MinutesOfDogs.

[01:13:35] [SPEAKER_07]: If you'd like to catch up with your Thanks I Hate It.

[01:13:40] [SPEAKER_07]: That is a weekly post-show hangout where we shoot the shit, talk about stuff that maybe didn't fit the main episode.

[01:13:48] [SPEAKER_07]: If we get 10 members at the $10 level before the end of the year, we are going to record a 90-minute commentary track on the Japanese puke fetish video, Garo Monster Home Delivery.

[01:14:01] [SPEAKER_09]: Yes, sir!

[01:14:02] [SPEAKER_09]: Hoo-wee!

[01:14:03] [SPEAKER_07]: Can't wait.

[01:14:04] [SPEAKER_09]: God, we might just do it anyways.

[01:14:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I know.

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_07]: We should probably just do it.

[01:14:08] [SPEAKER_09]: What we should do is we should do it and not release it.

[01:14:11] [SPEAKER_09]: No, until we get to 10.

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Exactly.

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_09]: Fucking hold it hostage.

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Fuck you, pay me.

[01:14:15] [SPEAKER_09]: Yeah.

[01:14:18] [SPEAKER_07]: You'll never know unless you do the thing.

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_07]: So Patreon.com slash 48MinutesOfDogs.

[01:14:23] [SPEAKER_09]: I ain't saying it won't make your pecker an inch bigger, but I ain't saying it won't either.

[01:14:28] [SPEAKER_07]: Exactly right.

[01:14:29] [SPEAKER_07]: Well, that about does it for the show.

[01:14:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you so much for listening.

[01:14:31] [SPEAKER_07]: My name is Jason.

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_07]: This is Brian.

[01:14:33] [SPEAKER_07]: As we always say at this time, namaste.

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Good luck.

[01:14:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Give mommy a good gut fucking.

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Ethan Ive.

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_07]: Ethan Ive.

[01:14:39] [SPEAKER_07]: Thank you.