Episode 103 : An Entertaining Death Spiral

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[00:00:46] Alright everybody, welcome to 48 Minutes of Dogs Barking. I'm your sultry host Brian And I've got my big boy over here, Jason. Yeah, we're- You got a hair guy just noticed, wow, wow, he's looking like a- Go on. Like a mail bomber.

[00:01:06] Like if I saw you like dropping a package in front of like the post dispatch, like brown bags With like twine wrapped on, I'm like, man I gotta call. I gotta call those boys down

[00:01:17] See something say something. Yeah, it's the see something say something haircut. Yeah, I just Like if I saw you in a Nissan Maxima like looking sweaty when it's cold out Yeah, there's something going on. He did some officer. He did. I don't know what he did but

[00:01:33] Look at him. Yeah, you got a haircut. I didn't get a haircut and you're playing your first felony. I am, but that's a whole nother all I can say is I'm in a f***ing hotel. Anyway, what's this Jason? You're a manifesto?

[00:01:48] Limiting the iFrames in a Soulsborne game is a heresy? Yeah, essentially. Yeah, that's We had a really fun Christmas in June. Thank you for hanging with us and enjoying our four wonderful guests

[00:02:01] I think that's a yearly tradition. That's worth doing. It's fun. Is this supposed to be Christmas in July? It originally was but then we booked June of last year and I was like, well, let's just keep it going. Okay.

[00:02:12] Yeah, I mean, you know, that's whatever, you know, if it works it works. Yeah, I really enjoyed all of those. Those went better than Last years, I think. So I'm pretty happy with that. Really enjoyed having A gosh, what a wide variety of guests. Devin, Ed, Casey

[00:02:31] Thor Jensen, Thor just yeah, really just had fun with all of those. We're lucky. We're lucky boys here in the Midwest. Indeed. We're Midwest princesses. But you know, we're also doubly lucky to be here on the day before 4th of July just hanging out in the

[00:02:47] Tarot Grove, shall I? Just the two of us and Boys are back in town is all I'm saying. The Classico. So there's a lot of political stuff in the front half of this show and for that I apologize.

[00:03:03] It can't be any worse than watching The Daily Show. It really can't. One thing that has caught me really off guard was Ken Clippenstein points this out. My timeline is full of people saying they're coconut piled and pod save types calling for Biden to step

[00:03:19] aside. Weirdest weekend politics I've seen. Now we didn't talk a lot of politics during our Christmas Engine, but while that was going on, while we were recording those, there was a really awful debate between Joe Biden and Donald Trump. Yeah, we were busy having fun with Casey Green

[00:03:35] while we watched Democracy Sundown on live TV. Yeah, there's been a lot of talk on the various news channels and whatnot about President Harris, but President Kamala. And so a bunch of people, including myself, have

[00:03:53] renounced their previous dislike of the K-Hive, I guess, is the easiest way to put it. And said, well, you know what? Fine. If this is the way it's going to be, let's embrace it.

[00:04:04] I think there's a distinction between K-Hive and being coconut piled because I think a K-Hive is like a true blue blindfolded person putting their hand in a box full of syringes hoping they

[00:04:14] get the gummy bear. Fair enough. And I feel like people that are coconut piled are just kind of Joker-fied in a way. You know what? We had, like, what, 200 years of this country? You know what?

[00:04:27] Everything's built to last. You might as well go out on a real 1920s post-World War I German art scene thing. Instead of Hugo Ball, we have Kamala Harris. She's basically going out there and doing, you know, sound poetry, bling-o-blung-o and all that. You know?

[00:04:46] The wheels on the bus go round and round. Our first barred-out president. I'm loving it. Absurd divorced art teacher energy. I originally, you said that and I was like, no, that's more Marianne Williamson. But then I had to amend it. I'm like, no,

[00:05:03] Marianne Williamson is like the aunt who's really into crystals and the tarot. I'm a fun mom. The fun mom. Yeah. And Kamala Harris is an empty nester who her husband left her so he could go

[00:05:17] operate a kiln or whatever you call it, like a pottery in like rural Thailand. I was thinking mountain climbing, but yeah, it works. Yeah, just like, I'm just going to do like some weird Bohemian shit and you're not going to be a part of it. Sorry, honey.

[00:05:32] Yeah. And you're going to be left in the Midwest teaching kids how to draw their hands. And you're just going to develop a really interesting prescription pill addiction. Right. And so this podcast is officially Kamala Maxing. We're coconut-pilled.

[00:05:47] What does that mean exactly? Well, you gotta understand that you are in the context of that which has come before and not which is presently happening. So yeah, I think the thing that really started a lot of this off was there was a four minute

[00:06:01] supercut of her repeating that phrase over and over and over again at the J. Coop, John Cooper, posting this four straight minutes of what can be unburdened by what has been. Here's a little taste.

[00:06:14] I can imagine what can be and be unburdened by what has been, you know? What can be unburdened by what has been. What can be unburdened by what has been. What can be unburdened by what has been. What can be unburdened by what has been.

[00:06:35] Oh, baby. You're not supposed to be mixing that with wine. My favorite one is the one where she's going on. That was Chiji the God. She's going on like his fucking radio show saying that same fucking thing.

[00:06:49] Oh boy. And so this has been passed around as well. This, the official K-Hive apology form. Two K-Hive from date reason for behavior. One of the check boxes is the media convinced me were

[00:07:01] unpopular. I didn't know you fell out of an actual coconut tree. I miss Mamala. I don't know what can be unburdened by what has been. I was jealous of K-Hive. Mercury was in retrograde.

[00:07:15] I will hereby respect Kamala and I will not talk down to the future first ballot hall of favor. Check one. Check one. Yeah. Yeah. I think with the direness of this presidential election and just

[00:07:32] how bad the Democrats have fucked this chicken, there's I think the apathy of what American politics have been in spite of what I think people actually want in this country like the majority and what like working class people like me and you want that have that so

[00:07:53] grossly ignored. I think it was like the most similar someone has to quote that the Democrats, you love to bear witness to suffering. Yeah. And I feel like that we've been really feeling that for I want to say probably for me and you at least our adult lives

[00:08:11] if not since we were children. Yeah. I mean since we were of a voting age. Yeah. I mean I felt how I vote in 2004. Well, I told you that I voted for Ralph Nader for fuck's

[00:08:22] sake and so people were trying to crucify him online for posting about maybe it's time for Joe Biden to step aside and like no actually he's right. Yeah. Kamala Harris is a candidate with

[00:08:35] limited appeal. Yeah. But this is a friend of the program Juniper at Can't Ever Die. Look Kamala doesn't have great politics isn't particularly charismatic doesn't have a strong coalition of supporters but she is incredibly funny in a way few politicians are and that's

[00:08:51] really all that matters anymore and I'm inclined to believe her. Yeah. I mean I mean that's kind of a nutshell like probably a much more better extrapolation what I was saying that yeah it's

[00:09:04] it's it's vibes is for vibe maxing politics because like we're not you know the the oceans are going to boil right and on the snow caps are melting but at least can we have some great

[00:09:15] show in Freud. Right. Could you know could be like a laugh. Well yeah because like with Trump you get a laugh but you also get the bad shit too. You get the terrorists. Right. And so like can we have

[00:09:26] the laugh without the terrorists probably maybe sort of I guess I'm here is hoping it's the hopefulness I think is what's happening is people are like well okay things suck but maybe if we

[00:09:37] get President Harris maybe at least it'll be an entertaining death spiral that we can enjoy. Yeah listen the Republicans are still going to get everything they want. Right but you know I thought

[00:09:49] you know the first time I voted 20 years ago right I thought that was dire I thought that was depressing I didn't know it could get worse the public school system did not adequately

[00:10:00] set me up for just how bad things could be and I'm feeling a little sour about that. Shaking your fist but yeah so am I. I mean Jesus there's a lot of politics stuff that I don't even

[00:10:11] want to get into because we'll be here all night but like the Supreme Court basically saying yeah nothing the president does is ever really illegal and it's like Nixon fucking said that 40 years

[00:10:22] ago. It's not legal the president does it. Yeah something like that yeah cool. And then of course this rules and then Biden kind of gwa fa is that like okay you know you'd think that if he was

[00:10:37] the moral and ethical man the man the right here that if you were giving being given that sort of power even if it was right or not but you had the chance to do some legitimate good.

[00:10:50] Why wouldn't you because the Democrats during Obama they were so sure that Hillary was going to win that they didn't close the loopholes that could be abused that Trump and his administration

[00:11:02] took advantage of. Right so we saw a continuation or worsening of some of the more more this spicable elements of Obama's presidency and saw that some things that were kind of being kept inbound by decency or a sense of morality then being abused and exploited by people that

[00:11:22] had none of those things. Right so anyways poopoo pee pee poopoo pee pee so the politics blind item number it's not even a blind item politics item number two a gentleman I even I hesitate to use

[00:11:35] that word a blue check by the name of bizlet at bizlet seven posted a photo of Alexandria Ocasio Cortez's boyfriend in this in this case that its reference says partner because that's the more

[00:11:49] kind of generic term that you use but he posted it with the following text this man sucks on AOC's big fat Latina milkers every night he doesn't even know what a deadlift is never heard about

[00:12:02] looks maxing or hunter's eyes how does this make you feel and on this is kind of like the anti-red pill kind of yeah he's doing like it would be a lot funny if his houses make you

[00:12:14] feel white boy because this is truly a houses make you feel white boy kind of hypothetical yeah you know my natural response was hey get help but but also using the language of inceldom

[00:12:30] kind of against them is a very interesting tactic I'm kind of curious how it's going to play for her but you know I am upset thank you for asking yeah yeah you know what but he get this man

[00:12:41] Riley Roberts gives hopes to all like weirdly postured gangly gingers everywhere you know it gives me hope I was gonna say yeah there was a documentary I don't know I want to say like 2018 or so

[00:12:56] about her or maybe it was like a 60 minute special or something yeah because I think it was about the squad as a whole yeah and they showed him and I remember the internet particularly

[00:13:06] to where I was calling him AOC's raccoon boyfriend like his like like like the shelter puppy boyfriend right like yeah respect we can we can pull oh yeah and then there were a couple of photo shops and

[00:13:19] like me and the bad bitch I pulled by being goofy like there's you know yeah yeah yeah that's such a it's just such an interesting so antagonistic yeah which who are you supposed to be pissing

[00:13:32] off with a phrase like this I think it's incels I think he's directly targeting the people who are all talking about like oh I'm a I'm a sub five beta I'll never do is like yeah look at this guy your

[00:13:45] whole life is a lie essentially that's what he's trying to say at least incel shit is ridiculous it's so shit's ridiculous because I wonder how many people how many of those guys out there I mean

[00:13:56] there's ladies but not so many I mean like young men or teenage boys that realize that like you know if you're just like only kind of shitty and they're at least like interesting you can probably find someone someone's gonna find that interesting slash attractive yeah I'm constantly surprised

[00:14:16] that I've been married for almost 20 years because I'm like I'm a little goblin man what do you mean I look like um like a like a albino gerbil you know and I've got like a hot interesting girlfriend

[00:14:29] who exactly wants to hang out with me and doesn't roll her eyes at me too much well a little bit a little bit healthy I think you know you gotta you gotta royalize your partner go and check

[00:14:40] my wife at dinner was just saying some really funny shit and she's just a weird little gremlin too and so it's like yeah we're kind of like two peas in a pod yeah and your your wife is awesome and

[00:14:51] like I'm I feel really lucky to have my girlfriend she gets my ass she's yeah but it's in the hopes of uh like making me better and not necessarily like brow being which is I think always an important

[00:15:03] distinction when you're when you're holding people you care about to uh to a standard I was sometimes not used to the candor right but there's like a lot of times where it's like the

[00:15:14] kabucha girl where it's like yeah no she's not wrong okay yeah maybe I maybe maybe I should unload the dishwasher before I go to the gym that would make sense fair enough yeah yeah

[00:15:25] you find yourself saying fair enough quite a bit yeah yeah okay yeah that makes sense okay yeah sure hey lice about compromise we know who didn't compromise rfk jr oh boy boy

[00:15:39] there's just really no easy way to ease into this story it was a vanity fair article that came out just the other day it opens with last year robert kennedy jr texted a photograph to a friend in the

[00:15:49] photo rfk jr was posing alongside an unidentified woman with the barbecued remains of what appears to be a dog kennedy told the person who was traveling to asia that he might enjoy a restaurant

[00:16:00] in korea that served dog on the menu suggesting kennedy had sampled dog the photo was taken according to the digital files metadata the same year he was diagnosed with a dead tapeworm in his brain interesting insane person and so a veterinarian apparently examined the photograph says the carcass

[00:16:18] is a canine pointing to the number of ribs and and he's like holding up the whole damn thing by the tail or by a stick through the butter yeah it's just a little much for me like

[00:16:31] yeah not um not good not good uh just like his own damn family and his own damn friends are like ratting him out yeah which is perhaps to be the most interesting part about it i mean joe hagan

[00:16:45] the guy who wrote it for vanity fair got pretty unlimited access to some stuff that you wouldn't think you'd get for a presidential candidate from any party anywhere the spread of this of course

[00:16:58] was was enormous and very quick here's robert f kennedy jr responding hey vanity fair you know when your veterinary experts call a goat a dog and your forensic experts say a photo taken in patagonia

[00:17:11] was taken in korea that you've joined the ranks of supermarket tabloids keep telling america that up is down if you want i'll keep talking about the fact that hardworking families can't afford

[00:17:22] houses or groceries because our last two presidents went and so forth and so on i mean he goes on a bit of a thing there but rfk is just an absurd human being and um it is interesting that he really

[00:17:35] knows how to mix like a statement that isn't necessarily wrong like about like debt spending and things like that right and then follow but then you're like yes but sir you're insane yeah

[00:17:47] yes where are you bringing to the table nothing good yeah it can't can't be well if you're eating dog you may want to put a little sauce on it and the hinds company has you covered this was baffling

[00:17:58] to me because this sounds both gross and fascinating and i want it so badly food and wine magazine emily price writing you've done it you finally created the perfect burger now you have just

[00:18:10] one last thing to decide what sauce to put on it sure you could use ketchup mustard or mayonnaise or maybe get a little crazy and try something like hinds's smoky mayonnaise or a little fancy

[00:18:20] with hinds's truffle mayo it's a difficult decision of course but what if we told you you don't have to choose that you can put them all on that burger along with quite a few others with hinds's new

[00:18:32] every sauce a limited edition offering from the company that as the name suggests includes every sauce in the same bottle yeah i fucking want this yeah so apparently there are 14 distinct sauces in this according to hinds underscore uk burger sauce garlic sauce aioli

[00:18:53] sauce smoky bacon a sweet chili chip sauce saucy sauce don't know i guess that's tomato and egg mayo racha mayo must it's mustard mayonnaise truffle mayo mustard mayonnaise yeah hey moms have you had

[00:19:09] it with the same old sandwich making routine then try new stensen's mayo stirred mayo stirred combines mayonnaise and mustard into one easy serving jar see the yellow lines and the white lines that means

[00:19:24] mayo stirred is working to save you time it cuts sandwich making time in half and mayo stirred works with every type of bread from white to weak dad i'm dying sorry making the sandwich i remember when

[00:19:40] they made everyone's like they fucking did it right oh and the worst part is that abe lincoln in that sketch is j johnston he was just arrested for participating in jr sx amazing let's see here truffle mayo garlic and caramelized onion mayo curry ketchup pickle ketchup

[00:20:01] and smoky bacon ketchup so those are the 14 sauces so how do i get this so unfortunately it is not available it is a uk only product to begin with and they gave away just 100 bottles of the limited

[00:20:16] edition sauce through a random drawing on the website so it is all gone for now bullshit yeah again according to emily here we'll have to cross our fingers that the promotion will make its way

[00:20:28] stateside soon we've got a burger waiting for it i do indeed i got a fridge full of meat that i cannot wait to slather with every saw i have like a really visceral memory of being in high school yeah and

[00:20:43] getting like the fucking chicken sandwich oh yeah like cafeteria sure that's like food in the heaviest of quotations yeah it's like legally distinct from not not food but barely yeah um the wood

[00:20:56] content the wood pulp content is just low enough to be technically considered food and not upholstery just under just under yeah but i remember this chicken it was not very good right but the way you

[00:21:08] really fucking pimped out that chicken sandwiches you took a packet of mayo you took a packet of ketchup and you swirl it together on your uh your tray and you dip that motherfucker and that used

[00:21:19] to be the way to really make that that thing sing and uh damn yeah i could really go for a near food chicken sandwich from my high school i was fond of because when i went to college there was a

[00:21:33] chick filet in the food court you get your choice of two sauces every time you got a chicken sandwich or the chicken nuggets and so the Polynesian sauce and the honey mustard together serious business if you're if you're willing to give money to a company that is extremely

[00:21:49] homophobic that is which we didn't know at the time that was our innocence obviously i have not been back since but the sauces you can get the sauces at the grocery store now you don't

[00:22:00] have to go to the to the chick filet and uh but yeah Polynesian sauce and honey mustard they're honey mustard in particular because it was much sweeter than any honey mustard

[00:22:09] i'd ever had i just i think they just were like yeah a touch of mustard and it's mostly honey i've done a combination like that before and i agree that it does it does super sweet i'm a big

[00:22:19] fan just the chick filet sauce and is is a shame that uh a above average place to eat fast food from is also deeply tied with such homophobic and terrible things right but i think the only

[00:22:33] way i could probably eat chick filet now is if i were like traveling and i was in some po dunk like town it was all they had and those like those things where it's like okay what's least likely

[00:22:44] gonna give me food poisoning because i've never i've i've gotten food poisoning from burger king i've got food poisoning from taco bell more than once taco not as much as you'd think

[00:22:57] for me but really is i know it has it has taken down many a wise person in my life but fucking jack in the box used to be the one that would just like ruin me yeah it used to be they've really

[00:23:08] come around the past couple years i'll i'm gonna tell you something so many jack in the boxes in the stainless area are like owned by like the same two or three people that's like

[00:23:16] broadway company yeah and they all like they don't ever change like their oil or anything like that and i remember i'm sure i've still this before on the pot before but like being

[00:23:25] in california like 10 years ago an eating jack in the box at like a california jack in the box one that seems to be held to a different standard than the ones in missouri and being like i have

[00:23:36] not and thinking i have not had jack in the box taco taste like this like since i was in like middle school yeah probably not yeah what's your favorite local burger place they'll make you

[00:23:46] six sound off through and four two four six nine seven six six give us a call and leave a voicemail and tell us all about it in the meantime it's cryptos scam of the week baby

[00:23:57] you're listening to 48 minutes of dogs barking the podcast and now it's time for the cryptos scam of the week this one brian really upset me yeah this is um this is weird so bothers me in a way

[00:24:11] that i can't even begin to explain but i guess we'll give it a shot break this down for me what the fuck is this so in the world of shitcoining and crypto there's often something called a meta

[00:24:24] okay when it comes to like mean coins and shitcoins okay so like a couple summers ago it was like weird takes on japanese philosophy um a summer before that like it was like you know all the dog

[00:24:38] coins and shit and recently the narrative for shitcoins has been matt fury yeah you mentioned that before yeah so there is a a shitcoin it was based off of some character his i never heard of that

[00:24:56] like he's just recently crashed and burned in like a really amazing way but this is based off of a character that is used in just about every single comic by the Spanish cartoonist

[00:25:12] Joan Cornela Vasquez the comics that are just like you know everything sucks and there's like a smiling guy with like a you know a part of haircut or there's so many there's like i'm really they're

[00:25:26] just so humorously and savagely like dark and dour yeah yeah he's a very distinct artist you can always tell you're looking at a at a one Cornelia but there's always the one that i keep coming back to

[00:25:41] is like the guy's getting mugged and then someone tries to step in but it's like the guy shoots him instead he's got yeah it's a lot of sub-buck guns the guy goes to the doctor

[00:25:53] he's got blood coming out of his neck and he turns out his pockets to show that he doesn't have any money so the doctor reaches inside of his his lab coat and they pulls out a

[00:26:04] middle finger and then the guy who is bleeding ejecting quite a quantity of blood out of his neck is just kind of like smiling kind of ah okay yeah he's uh i think one of the funnier

[00:26:18] cartoonists to come out i would say post mad magazine yeah like there's a lot of uh like the counter-cultural avant-garde kind of thing you sometimes would feel with like al jaffy or something

[00:26:30] with mad magazine just one that he posted to instagram of a guy with his dick on the barbecue smiling and then he's he's like uh um the dragon ball z guy where he's only got like three faces

[00:26:43] but they're all winners he's taken to instagram to to make these like almost demotivational posters there's some real surreal ones about puppets and but this is not actually him right

[00:26:56] i know so because it says inspired by i don't even know if jeffrey is like the actual name of this character yeah they just gave it a name but someone made a a fucking chicory using ip that

[00:27:11] isn't theirs based around this character and the thing that got really bizarre for me was i went to their telegram and it's just a bunch of people i don't think that they understand the humor and i

[00:27:24] don't think the person who are individuals involved with this token like understand what's funny just like oh it's recognizable they don't understand the art they don't understand the humor yeah it's just a recognizable image and there's been lots of matt fury related shit like this

[00:27:40] and this is like i said it's a matt fury meta okay and people are like well the matt fury stuff's kind of in mind well who's all the same zeitgeist i suppose you know as far as like internet

[00:27:51] cartoonists and jones is definitely one of them i think jones uh obviously much more successful yeah i i checked like the cash tag and it's just people thinking it's like ironic and i wonder how many people are like english is not even like their third language you gotta

[00:28:08] wonder i'm looking at this chart and it's like it's gone up and down a whole shit ton the market cap is set to 3.47 million as of i believe yesterday then it says jeffrey has recovered well after the

[00:28:21] dump yesterday so it's like oh so they're even using the language of like yeah people dump this but it's oh yeah i mean it went down went back up and it's kind of what i think it's at trading

[00:28:35] like half but people posting like really mean but not humorous like uh but like also against like their own interests like pitching this like trying to get other people to buy this

[00:28:49] crypto coin yeah so it just felt really bizarre and like do you guys know this is not this is not how you get other people to buy the the fucking scam that you're in on it's so weird

[00:29:02] because it yeah the nick rad here writing the new the fresh new meta is going to be huge the dark sarcastic meme humor is djent to the core basically saying that like yeah you're

[00:29:13] gonna lose your money yeah i feel like when i see something like this it really reminds me of i mean this feels like some society is spectacle this is a sub-image is removed from its original

[00:29:26] context and that's it's the most transparent onion paper thin interaction with this art that's so far removed from its point of origin but now it's perpetuating itself in like the most barest

[00:29:42] crass cynical form of capitalism that we pretty much have it doesn't involve like oil and you know weapons yeah because i mean people responding to this jeffrey on x twitter account with like their version of the jeffrey character in a mcdonald's uniform with a gun under his pillow

[00:30:00] like hey yeah okay i guess it feels like a kind like it's supposed to be riffing a lot of crypto memes but in the context of what the jone comics or the jet jeffrey comics it just seems like

[00:30:15] really dark and like off-putting not like humorous like this is just one of the kind of stuck in my craw there's some dark stuff obviously jone no problem going super dark about yeah but it's

[00:30:28] like fucking funny yeah it's got a point of view it's it's got a genuine kind of like the the newer nancy comics absurd horror comedy and this crypto thing doesn't have doesn't seem like it

[00:30:44] understands the humor and just it's just pleased by my shitcoin so maybe i can make some money the more the images i saw a little bit ago was just like the jeffrey character

[00:30:56] thank fucking god just made 42 dollars yeah so if you're a fan avoid this at all costs i think is the piece of advice i can give you that is financial advice his financial advice yeah a

[00:31:10] little slow this week on crypto scams but this was the we're talking about the culture here when when there was a bigger air of wasn't just crass like race to the bottom like capitalist bullshit

[00:31:22] and this is a culture coin this is community coin i guess but if you go in their tg and their telegram it's just like people bitching and you know slapping each other on the back like

[00:31:34] they're bad kids and well i mean isn't that kind of every coin some are a little bit more rational when you get with these shitcoins man like sometimes you're just like you know what the

[00:31:44] internet was a mistake right there's a youtube oh yeah it just has like this one video i'd looked at earlier so like right there you can already see a misunderstanding of the humor yeah

[00:31:57] because you know jeffrey gets rugged you see the character jeffrey pulling his phone out and realizing the shitcoin he bought had totally fucking tanked and the character's reaction is to

[00:32:06] like like have like happy eyes mm-hmm where you would think if it were in line with the actual humor that this character comes from would probably be like something much more like dark and bleak

[00:32:18] like maybe you hear like a gun cock or something you know you know what i'm saying yeah yeah loses some of the cynical dark edge to it yeah in favor of this there's already a

[00:32:29] misunderstanding of this humor right because it's always in favor of this kind of oh well he's going to try again throughout the minute and a half video he buys several coins that all rug

[00:32:40] and by the end of the video he's got a beard and he's got the the laser eyes because it's jeffrey coin that he finally buys you see this coin is not affiliated this meme coin is made for entertainment purposes only that is the big disclaimer that goes

[00:32:57] through the bottom of the page uh i would be extremely fucking mad if i was shown i would be firing up my lawyers at this very moment yeah we had kasey grillon last week and you know

[00:33:11] dick butt and you know this is fine have all been reiterated the shit coins right many times over and it seems like he's made his peace with that he's create something that's kind of outside

[00:33:24] of his control right but this is so very different because that's that character that face that expression is pretty much his entire thing you know i mean yeah it's not just a one-off character like with

[00:33:38] with dick butt that's a one-off character from like one comic strip yeah from horribleville from one literally one page and it was a one-off joke that it kind of got out of his control or even

[00:33:50] even this is fine that's question how insure he's a recognizable character but that was like one page or something larger for part of gun show but but this is something different that's like

[00:34:02] his entire deal now what fascinated me is that this is not the first time jones been involved in the crypto space once upon a time he did have an official nft so moar more was the

[00:34:20] what's the coin and it was officials by jones koneya yeah 50 artworks all hand drawn 5000 supply fwend club got him into that which is the whole thing i don't even know if they're around

[00:34:35] anymore but the website's still up yeah so april of 2022 so it was about two years ago that uh that he actually got in on the nft based on his work that's one thing if you go okay

[00:34:49] go ahead and do this thing here i'll draw some stuff it's another thing if somebody just goes yeah this is based on your stuff and this is completely just whole cloth like a really weird

[00:35:00] bad faith interpretation of your artwork for just money what's uh where these nfts going for price for today 169 dollars and 90 cents with a 24 hour sales volume of 0.050 east that's per coin gecko up up 0 percent from the last 24 hours oh wow one point at a time these were trading

[00:35:23] for over one ethereum yeah i think the maximum value they said was 1.84 uh and that was in april when they first came out and then they've just kind of been there's a bit of a a bit of a bump

[00:35:35] two years ago and then it's just kind of been doing it slow decline since then and now it's yeah amazing that's fine i guess it's fine god well cartoonists and cartoons have been on our mind

[00:35:50] lately we actually had last week adam films was our main topic this week somebody that worked very closely with adam films that was a gentleman who goes by the name joe cartoon that's right

[00:36:03] uh dick in a blender so joe cartoon is actually a guy named joe joseph shields the name starting as an independent website they were later affiliated with adam films but then they went solo again

[00:36:17] went offline for a while did some dvd releases that was interesting and then a couple years ago they're back on the internet so the basics of it was flash a huge thing for animators and

[00:36:31] cartoonists at this time period 1999 early 2000s uh let's see here original release actually lists as december 1st 1998 so yeah that would have been early early flash gerbil in a microwave frog in

[00:36:46] a blender oh boy so brian joe cartoons what's your who's your guy because there's a bunch of characters here that are listed on the page here the gerbil yeah i think the gerbil's lumpy the

[00:36:59] no-legged dog i do remember but the gerbil was kind of like yeah the the mascot for joe cartoon there was even like a monica lawinsky joke with the gerbil oh no because the one i always remember is joe mama was the little bratty like denis the menace

[00:37:18] type little kid yeah because he gets out he gets kicked out of the house by his by his mom and he sees a penguin and insults it uh the penguin tax him knocks the kid out cold

[00:37:29] he's found in a cabinet i have a soft spot for the bratty kids i always love the denises the menaces the the calvins of the world there but man joe cartoon what an interesting like yeah

[00:37:41] here's my art here's the thing that i'm making i'm just gonna put it online and yeah it was insanely fucking popular yeah uh as far as like air net stuff i think like this gerbil in the blender

[00:37:54] frog in a microwave was probably up there with like i don't know like camp chaos is uh napster bad yeah i think napster bad was probably bigger yeah lobster magnet lobster yeah you know and there's

[00:38:08] like you know kill frog and a couple others that were kind of on a similar level uh but yeah joe cartoon was one that i remember going to my mom's work for take your kid to work day this is

[00:38:22] probably like 99 or 2000 and like her co-workers like being so excited to show us kids like frog in a blender like and this was a place where like people were getting like in trouble for having

[00:38:35] like dill bird strips on their cubicle oh yeah you were saying that yeah because i did like it was like like it was like people were like making a fucking stand yeah how dare you how dare you say

[00:38:47] i can't put a fucking dill bird comic on my like you know how much fucking money i make this company that's right yeah and software devs especially so this from huffington post oddly enough is a article that's the conversation with legendary animator joe cartoon that is from 2015

[00:39:05] by bob seska former host of the bob and shes show who also uh is a frequent guest on the stefanie miller program stefanie miller was one of the progressive big air quotes radio hosts on

[00:39:21] on this kind of it wasn't air america it's the um serious xm picked up it's called progress it's like radio progress yeah so stefanie miller tom hartman he shows up on those as well but yeah

[00:39:32] bob seska wrote this in 2015 one of the first cartoonists to successfully create and stream web cartoons ever was my friend of 17 years joe shields popularly known as joe cartoon joe started out as a t-shirt designer and like me began to tinker with flash animations before

[00:39:53] anyone knew how to install the flash plug-in on their netscape browsers so that is that's kind of giving you his bone of feet is there yeah but yes his viral hits frog in a blender and gerbil

[00:40:04] in a microwave or household names and flagship cartoons for an insane era of digital creativity where millions of dollars were holding in the direction of anyone who could draw and voice their own shorts he goes on to mention happy tree friends and batman and piter man

[00:40:20] but yes much like adam films much like albino black sheep a lot of stuff we've talked about already in this path months and some change flash and the ability to put cartoons that are weird

[00:40:32] and in your face on the web blew the fuck up i can go on new grounds and i can watch watch the browser take 10 minutes to load uh you know a w s stamper cartoon or fucking one

[00:40:47] where yoda talks about getting head or something you know donald duck gets a blowjob dot s w f i don't know i'm by i can't really do i used to be able to do a donald duck i just sound like someone who's automatically affixiating themselves

[00:41:07] while also trying to get away from a hot stove so in this interview joe cartoon joe shields mentions that bob was one of the first people to put his cartoons online in bob's nascent website

[00:41:23] which was called camp chaos oh yeah yeah so bob says got a big instrumental part of camp chaos bob saying i got to the point where i couldn't even open my copy of flash without feeling a

[00:41:36] little barfy do you get tired of the process of animating joe responding yes and yes flash was and still is the tool if i animate but that old material was the most depressing especially the

[00:41:48] button push stuff how many ways can you say you ain't got the balls no balls so he in 2015 apparently there is a documentary by robert tomsen called cousin joe about him and his

[00:42:06] early days in cartooning but also he's he became a blues artist he did backwards blues records out of his house so cousin joe but even with 2015 and making backwards blues music he's still doing it on the

[00:42:20] computer you know he's still using he's he's everything has to involve the computer and i think what made like joe cartoon also kind of interesting is it was like a more blue collar

[00:42:32] approach to humor and was it necessarily a surreal or like edgy or uh ironic as like some other stuff that was maybe coming out at the time it was very like something to make your uncle laugh

[00:42:45] yeah i really feel like joe cartoon and like mike judge kind of came up with the same that same cloth like frog in a blender frog baseball yeah you know what i mean it's just the sensibility

[00:42:56] of like i'm just gonna do something stupid just for fun but they turned into something else obviously yeah both between judge and joe but like now here here he says i had deals with shockwave

[00:43:08] add adam films which we talked about with kasey green and he says the ad revenue was great at the time and the deals were lucrative but right at the height of it all just before the crash

[00:43:19] meaning the dot com crash i lost an adrenal gland i was pumping fight or flight hormones into my body and i crashed at the same time the bubble popped so now i only have one adrenal gland left shockwave

[00:43:35] let me out of a deal we had for 10 more animations because basically i couldn't do them i had like you you bob seska a two-year party maybe then i exploded in a bad way

[00:43:48] then then he goes on to name some other i mean kasey mentioned the ice box that's what bob mentioned the rom pop.com joe mentions god camp chaos rock school joe sparks duty fatty big guy tyler gave

[00:44:01] kill frog we were the anti-hollywood badasses for a year which surprises me that it was only a year but i guess that kind of tracks because there was that big explosion of of that money

[00:44:15] yeah like i want to say like between like 2000 like 2002 that was really the heyday of it i remember having a friend and her college roommate had a fucking kill frog shirt and just like

[00:44:28] i'm just thinking like what the fuck because you know like in that period of time like the early odds how fucking hard is it the or something off the internet isn't like amazon oh yeah you know

[00:44:39] oh i i i was even still even was still fucking with i remember like oring stuff on amazon just never showed up yeah but i was like 20 years ago i was still sorry about my brother you know

[00:44:50] buying jeans off of some like who made she made like her own jeans oh yeah and uh i think the jeans like never showed up and i was like are you gonna get said about that he's like no that

[00:45:01] was a nice thought damn just like you know what like you know she couldn't get the jeans to me yeah maybe maybe like she's got something going on like my brother such a sweet guy yeah just his

[00:45:14] few points like you know maybe she's got some shit going on right we're like maybe she needs the money more than i need the jeans like i can always get a pair of jeans for that money that i sent

[00:45:24] her like and paypal or whatever like yeah maybe maybe she's going through something and what a sweet guy that's that's a very very trusting kind of yeah i love that so so he was asked in this interview

[00:45:39] by bopsesco what was the deal with frog and blender how did that start and i thought this story was pretty cool too he says uh frog and a blender started as a self promo piece i received

[00:45:48] a fan letter that i just loved that said that i was quote a cross between gary larson and steven king i thought it was great so i started making a little joe cartoon promo that

[00:45:58] asked what do you get when you drop gary larson and steven king into a blender and of course the blood splatter would have spelled joe cartoon dot com i was working that on that for about five minutes

[00:46:08] when i remembered the very ancient joke what is red and green and spins around really fast a frog and a blender i think i had just learned about buttons in flash oh hell it was just too

[00:46:18] obvious and so it started as a joke is all favorite things of mine do at least you got a love like oh okay here's a dumb idea i'm just going to make it a thing and it became

[00:46:31] way more than it originally ever was supposed to be i like this particular interview for a lot of reasons but the biggest one is that he really talks about a lot of the nuts and bolts so for

[00:46:40] example when asked you know do adam and chockwave expect you to turn out just new iterations of the same thing or did they let you go joe goes well they they put no constraints on the content

[00:46:51] i delivered a piece and that was it only one was rejected and that was because some producer there wanted a little creative input rust the barbarian one of the people at adam basically told him to

[00:47:04] fuck off so he posted it and made them another one yeah and bob saying to joe you know we never are rarely talk about your family always envisioned you in one of two ways one as a thoughtful

[00:47:18] ours of the wicked sense of humor and two as a hillbilly who lives alone and talks to his jackalope are you married kids you know prisoners in a creepy crawl space your son is in ban yeah and

[00:47:30] you know like but that's kind of what i always figured is like it had to either be like you know like a guy that was you know maybe sort of a little bit of pot right like when he was

[00:47:39] getting his engineering degree he worked for bowing for a couple years and he said fuck this square shit right and the site he was gonna make weird internet cartoons or just like you know a guy

[00:47:49] that like uh you know fucking dresses his own fucking cow every summer right has a strange collection of little shoes he knows what turpentine was good once bad curies it we can't use that

[00:48:03] there's still that kind of thing going on these days because like if you think about Junji Ito like his work is this graphic really odd stuff and in person he's just a kind sweet

[00:48:14] little guy who loves cats he's just and spirals yeah he's just a sweet guy he loves cats he just happens to have these dark drawings and then some somebody who will write the most wholesome you

[00:48:25] know romance mongo will be like yeah i fucking love norwegian death metal and i hang out with the lights off smoking by myself in the basement it's very funny and so yeah according to Joe i'm a

[00:48:37] thoughtful artist with a wicked sense of humor and hillbilly sensibilities so early he's got a little bit of a little bit everything he says easy uh he doesn't pose a threat to anyone except maybe a trout

[00:48:49] yeah he sounds like like you know your dad's friend yeah he lives in the michigan woodlands on ten acres you know just uh yeah he says uh turkey and deer and coyote are plentiful but

[00:49:00] as of yet i have not hunted because i just don't need another hobby michigan guys are always interesting i'm still the theory that the weird shit really comes from ohio i think ohio is a really weird

[00:49:13] cultural cesspool the landlock states and then the pacific northwest those are the two places that i think but missouri doesn't get it the same way no i think illinois does i think illinois is

[00:49:23] like too metropolitan in some ways yeah like chicago is such a big magnet and then you also have places like st louis and louisville sure that are you know on the periphery but ohio you've been to

[00:49:36] ohio yeah yeah like i think it's pretty out there like i've driven i've gone to seer point a couple times i think in dusky is an interesting like town cleveland's fun yeah it's way better in

[00:49:46] india i mean a lot of things are better like you will get no argument from me yes yeah i'm so bored i could go to any i'm sorry to all five of our indianapolis listeners that's okay i don't

[00:50:00] know i think they they really know how to work the old podcast machine out there anyway but like ohio feels like its own thing in a way that other parts of the midwest are like the rust belt aren't

[00:50:13] there was a guy gary he used to do sound at the firebird who one of his like fucking core tenets about music that he stuck by was like the weirdest shit comes from ohio

[00:50:24] and he would just sit there and he would be like dr i kill man tear his party dream yeah you know uh divo you know he just all these bands and he's like motherfucker ain't wrong no and there was a few

[00:50:37] times that i remember gary went up to a band like a touring band back when the firebird was still getting established was doing taking anyone like yeah sure black lips were playing there sure caribou were playing there but like also like bands that were probably playing like a

[00:50:52] bar and grill and their next stop like in Omaha or kc yeah like they got this was like the one real venue they played their whole entire tour i remember he went up to a band and he was like y'all from

[00:51:03] ohio they're like no he goes y'all from arizona and they go yeah he's like look i knew it was one of two yeah because arizona is also like a weird ass music dude state yeah some places in georgia

[00:51:14] too like athens and all that but i was thinking about he said ohio yeah dating ohio the breeders guided by voices ohio is like the iceland of like the united states were like there ain't

[00:51:29] shit else to do but be weird and interesting because a maryland answers from ohio sure sure we could sit here all day long but i think ohio is a real breeding ground well the Trent

[00:51:40] resident also from yeah earth quicker devices oh they're based out of uh canton are they acron acron i'm sorry acron ohio because it's also like where the black keys are from yeah and black keys

[00:51:55] record their best record rubber factory and rubber factory yes and acron ohio uh the zen buddhist slash rock star um god i had his name on my tongue ben something other he wrote hardcore zen

[00:52:11] bradwarner bradwarner which is also the birth name of maryland but he's playing a bunch of punk bands and does all kinds of weird shit uh but he is from acron ohio huh i think he's from acron yeah

[00:52:28] i know it's a weird fucking state not to get away from a topic in hamilton hamilton uh his book hardcore zen is really interesting i don't know why i did the whisk or do thing i think i just had

[00:52:40] them on the brain like well it was because an arcade just turned like 40 years old that'll do it yeah it's just fucking wild yeah and it i mean i wasn't even born that record came out i know

[00:52:50] i feel old thinking like fuck man like um becks mellow gold oh no just turned 30 yeah free hate machine just turned 30 i remember being a senior year high school talking with someone about like it was really weird man beckrey releases you know i was graduating in 2004 you know

[00:53:12] it was like last couple weeks of high school it's been like it's really weird man i just found out this back record came out like 10 years ago that's like old and now that record is like 30 years

[00:53:22] old you're crumbling to dust in front of your own eyes yeah well the fact that joe carton was in 1998 also throws me for a loop because i was like oh that's 35 years ago yeah what's on what's on joe

[00:53:36] cartoon now what's well actually the site came back uh so now they've got more in a blender stuff obviously uh they've got uh lebron james in a blender apparently oh that that yeah it's three three drunk flies oh i was going hillary clinton in a blender oh jeez

[00:53:56] kamala's favorite one she's been watching this three drunk flies this is from 2000 oh three flies get into the joe character's beer can they're trashed and one decides to antagonize a frog

[00:54:36] by pissing on it then he uh goes back to his buddies at the beer can he's like check this out and he goes and steals an eyeball off the frog and then uh one of the other flies is like gives him a little

[00:54:49] stick of dynamite so he drops the dynamite and the frogs eye socket and kills the frog and then the joe character burns uh one fly one fly got knocked off the can with the with the explosion

[00:55:05] the remaining fly on the beer can uh was then incinerated and then the remaining the free fly realized what was coming for him so he hopped back in the beer can joe character takes a drink

[00:55:16] his head turns into a fly and then a frog comes by and rips his head off yeah it didn't take much back to him but like i i still chuckled there's a sense of humor there's a method to it like it

[00:55:30] there's some the the drawings are just good enough yeah i was reminded as soon as i saw the joe character i was like oh that's like a bill plimpton thing it's a very interesting guy you know he's

[00:55:43] just kind of a kind of an odd guy but not really all that weird it's just a dude who likes beer and fishing you know it's like just a guy who has a sense like thinks thinks he's got something

[00:55:56] to make people chuckle with and he does and like yeah it's it's it's a thing and my favorite thing at the end of these videos without remorse has a joe cartoon without remorse has wasted

[00:56:05] approximately two minutes of your life yeah and each one of them has a similar one at the end but yeah the people in a blender i think moving over from flash to just straight up video has taken

[00:56:20] a lot of the interactivity out of it because the the people in a blender you can't push the buttons anymore you just wait for the animation to finish joe cartoon cleaning up the world one

[00:56:30] douchebag at a time you're welcome so that's apparently he took on the in a blender series as a way to get rid of all the bad people wow i won't look into this thing further yeah it

[00:56:43] probably probably best yeah since you can't actually control the speed of it anymore it's just a static video that goes for a minute and a half until the frog is dead yeah paste so and then that was 2012 when they brought the site back

[00:57:01] may 2012 yeah and announced that website had returned because for a while for the past for two years before this you'd offloaded everything to youtube because that was the way you delivered video that's what you that's what you did but then yeah he brought back

[00:57:16] the site here's the announcement video and and blog which i don't think actually had any text in it joe cartoon.com it's back you push the button there it says feel the love frog that's been run over by

[00:57:30] a motorcycle collapse that that was there that was their welcome back announcement during the old days they did have the site kind of segmented press and sload which were flash animations where you pushed a button and something happened super fly which was its own series the green fields

[00:57:51] which i believe included that was the the family the joe character gerbil genocide donkey bong donkey bong was the only thing to ever get really taken down it was self-censored this according to wikipedia by the creator after its initial publication the conclusion of the original

[00:58:14] version featured the gerbil singing the sound of silence with the lyrics completely altered to describe the woes of being stuck inside of a donkey's rectum which was the fate of the gerbil in the cartoon um the song parody was removed to avoid potential music copyright litigation

[00:58:34] new grounds however managed to keep it up with the original parody song attached i can't remember the lyrics but i have seen that one at least once and it's like yeah i'm stuck inside an anus yeah i vaguely remember this again like this was funny enough and

[00:58:54] stuff being funny on the internet was sometimes scarce feeling and this was a new medium yeah flash animation and i'm yeah i still chuckle thinking about gerbil in the blender frog baseball

[00:59:08] that frog baseball you know frog in the blender um and stuff with the flies like yeah there's there's some here um i'm not sure it's pure isle it's juvenile yeah but it's uh it's not trying to convince

[00:59:22] you that it's anything that's not well exactly and i think that's nice isn't that good doesn't that feel good kids i think it does yeah falls into that hole i mean i hate to have nostalgia

[00:59:35] for that time period of the internet because there was still some plenty of awful shit yeah but at the same time there was a a wide-eyed innocence like yeah we could do a whole thing

[00:59:47] about a frog in a blender isn't that nice kid and now the moment you've all been waiting for shock dot gpg speaking of weird shit so shock images are oftentimes old we know this this is

[01:00:07] part this has been part of the show for a long time a weird bit of nostalgia and i don't know if you put if you left in me asking like the past two guests like hey do you know about the this weird

[01:00:19] this weird i left some of them some of them depending on that yeah yeah there's like i have my white whale which is something i remember being so utterly bizarre and strange it would be like me

[01:00:30] finding like you it'd be like for you like finding like a lost dungey e2 comic or something that's never published yeah it's it's something so bizarre who made web only for like a website

[01:00:40] that's now defunct yeah well this one is more recent because it came to us from twitter oh god and much like the gas pump the gas pump guy the chicken sandwich that is like literally just three

[01:00:53] or four that i can remember that are like a mick chicken the mick chicken those those were the ones those were the ones that came from twitter and we haven't seen very many of those the knife

[01:01:05] video did originally come from twitter but the folks at shock sites that net put it up which was the knife for you again that was the one with the the big serrated knife and the woman's putting

[01:01:15] it in her vagina oh yeah that was not good this one's a little less so this one comes to us courtesy of memetica18.com on twitter this is only colloquially a reference to as the belly button video

[01:01:30] i can see why it is from a bbw porn star tiffani cushionberry no longer actually on her site it only exists in this six second clip which has 11 which has 11 million views on amazing amazing

[01:01:49] x the everything app uh-huh it's all happening on x and it is a guy uh penetrating a woman's belly button while clutching her boob like yep i'm i'm here i guess i'd like to response from lady rich rich rich chuch yeah let's see the gape with 11 k views

[01:02:18] nine responses one retweet in four likes yeah let's see the gape that first response is in Spanish let's translate that boy let's see ah brother how does Sapporo appear in my tl now go see this guy too

[01:02:34] all right i guess this maybe like i feel like that's probably like a sports reference i don't understand yeah here's a german one hello my followers thank me later what people tagging other people on it the amount of responses i'm seeing in german

[01:02:51] really tracks i uh someone tagging lizzo someone responding with a screenshot of a google search and the google search is how do you delete someone else's tweet uh-huh um the amount of german stuff tracks i had a friend in high

[01:03:12] school whose father was in the military and spent most of the 80s on a base in germany yeah and my friend was like i found my dad's porn stash and i was you know like we're like 14 15 years

[01:03:27] old like oh okay yeah like show it to me and it was just all like bbw porn mm-hmm he's like pretty cool right i'm like oh man your dad's like you know all bodies are beautiful brother but like

[01:03:41] the fact that there's really no variation here is yeah makes me feel like your father is of a limited imagination in his pornography consumption yeah just it was all stuff without getting too

[01:03:53] deep in the weeds not too different from what you just showed me and uh fuck you for that thank you and that is my mission is to make you mad every week and so far so good so i'm hella yelling

[01:04:06] about the sex well that is it's baffling in its construction because like it's not even like anything that seems enjoyable for anyone i can't well okay for only one of the two parties i can

[01:04:20] in my mind's eye kind of see how the dude might enjoy that but um the adult film star possibly lay does on some level we have to i don't know poke your finger in your belly button

[01:04:32] does that feel good no it feels weird i don't have like the thing is i also like my point your finger in my belly button i can't get like really it's not that deep i have a i don't have a petr's

[01:04:43] mitt right right i can't really get past like my finger the the depth of my fingernail but it still feels weird when you do it that's what i'm saying like it's kind of uh it's good if you do it right

[01:04:55] i guess jason you now now you're the one with the lack of imagination it's not so much lack of imagination it's just like i know how that feels when i put my hand there what you know an

[01:05:07] average size hog what is that gonna you know i don't know i you know what but it listens uh fortune favors the bold i guess so i guess i never i'm sorry i'm sorry that the new paradigm of

[01:05:18] sexuality is is something beyond your comprehension passed me by yeah all right well i guess that means it's time for the breath mint yeah i guess so i mean there's really not much else to say

[01:05:32] beyond that uh no don't stick it in my belly button and also i'm not going to do that to anybody that's just me uh that's the jason guarantee it is dad you can put that in writing listen we

[01:05:43] might ruin your credit but we're not gonna fuck your belly button nope just two dudes hanging out poking each other's belly buttons i have so many weird stories to tell about my younger years related to this but i'm just you'll just have to live in the

[01:06:00] fear of imagination one day one day we'll get one day it's doing this for two years i haven't gotten every story out of you okay there's more all right good

[01:06:12] there's there you know what like sometimes i got i gotta think you know i don't just have to say everything that comes to mind that's true i can be reserved i don't have to tell every the

[01:06:23] matter how self-deprecating our humorous it is because boy i've told my fair share of those stories you know sometimes it's okay to just be like yeah uh i could add something in this conversation but

[01:06:34] i think i uh i'm going to respectfully withhold okay but fair enough do you know there was some freak nasty shit okay i believe you yeah i drunk off my dory oh no

[01:06:49] oh no oh no yeah so you know oh boy you know that was probably like 18 19 year old see i'm building yeah periphery of this i say so people can be like what did you like yeah what did you like

[01:07:04] did you like warm up like a dish rag in the microwave you know like what no just did you pull a port noise complaint and use the liver that you then ate later for dinner yeah no i uh but just to

[01:07:17] put in the midori was a thing of like the people we were hanging out with that was like the only liquor that they had so if you can imagine like four or five people trying to split a ball of

[01:07:28] midori and get turned hard times hard times but yes we add like the wrong like root beer flavored vodka with a cola just because of like oh no i'm getting heartburn just thinking about it yeah oh boy

[01:07:45] there you tell me about the time that i went to a house party that was on the edge of the village and murkley no uh cul-de-sac it was a guy that we knew some long time

[01:07:59] devout listeners of this podcast might remember the story about the guy at the house party who had the tattoo on his bicep to said no regrets and i asked him uh what's up with that tattoo

[01:08:11] and this was after we dared him he couldn't eat a whole entire block of cheese so he's bowing down this fucking block of sharp to share like a pound okay and he's just like slapping his

[01:08:22] bite it was like no regrets man like when you're like fucking two chicks at once you know regrets wait the cheese guy and the no regrets guy that was the same guy that's the same person

[01:08:34] you know he's like the mythology behind this guy is sprawling i love it i i know i was my space friends with him i don't think i was ever facebook friends with him but also the age

[01:08:44] of the story yeah but he was one of those guys he was a guy on the football team that was just really an offensive like that's just like i will say at least for my high school that most of the popular

[01:08:57] kids weren't assholes they were popular because they were nice well that's something yeah i mean not that there weren't popular kids that were popular and they were huge pieces of shit but most of the ones like who are like trying to put together like the high school union

[01:09:11] on that like all people were it's like you were a nice guy and like you know this person was nice like i really don't want to interact with too many other people from high school so it's going to be

[01:09:20] a no for me big dog but at least the people organizing it aren't people that like if they sent me a facebook request i'd be like yeah there's been a few of those like yeah i remember like

[01:09:30] one person sent me a firm request from high school and it's like yeah i specifically remember you trying to like beat my ass in gym class and like you called me a faggot and pushed me in the

[01:09:40] showers and like all this stuff so i'm like yeah i'm not i'm not gonna accept your friend request brother because apparently mean you have a different understanding of friend of our association

[01:09:54] but uh was like oh yeah ben okay he had a fucking house party his parents were there and this would have been like 2005 or 2006 okay he lived right at the border of berkeley

[01:10:10] and he's on the hazelwood side and i call the sack and berkeley for those who don't know berkeley is uh one of the tougher parts of st louis county. hazelwood is not so much there's a

[01:10:22] little bit of bleed through just you know just same with like florist center blackjack there's nice parts and bad parts but berkeley on the whole is a little little rowdy i would say because you've got like the airport part of there you got a lot of industrial stuff

[01:10:37] there's like a liquor store that's like a monument that like if you say oh man it's down from frost liquor on handley people like have like probably if they're from north county have like a very

[01:10:48] distinct unhappy memory of vivid yes you might even have i do yeah i do oh i do yes indeed yes indeed yeah we all we all everyone everyone north county has a frost liquor story well because

[01:11:04] champagne and ripple was the because we were for some reason obsessed with sanford and suns and that's where the that combination came from yeah and uh we're like yeah we want to drink that amazing real brangies as you are well between that and um champagne and alize

[01:11:29] champagne and alize was the one tupac mentions in thug's passion so the way you just thugs passion by tupac chicor and by plenty platinum recurring artists yeah i put my mpr voice on it was that

[01:11:45] nice so we're not really that far from oh god yeah yeah so so you're gonna have a house party in paris were there was also just made weird but his parents are always like nice yeah um they're

[01:11:56] the cool parents who are like yeah they're just like middle age overweight white people in the midwest and they're just like well we just you know if we figure like we're here like it's not

[01:12:08] going to get to out of control but the thing is where it gets out that there's a house party oh yeah and some berkeley dudes show up and it's like 40 50 people at this party and like vibes are all

[01:12:21] right but being on the border between hazelwood and berkeley berkeley being a little bit more of a rowdy rough spot compared to hazelwood on the whole like you could kind of tell these guys weren't part of our contingency they definitely had a different

[01:12:36] vibe and you know whatever i've been to plenty of house parties in north county where like someone shows up with like their buddies and you're like and you're like what the fuck and then like one

[01:12:48] dude like you know opens up the book bag and he's got like a fucking big ass handle like sphedka vodka and you're like oh okay oh yeah okay we we're speaking the same same language

[01:12:57] which is uh we're here to get fucked up um so whatever and that typically happens at most county parties in st. Louis at least back in my day was that eventually the word gets around

[01:13:08] and people that you maybe no one knows or only a few people know show up and usually they're not they're different vibe but they don't cause any static and you know they're actually making

[01:13:18] friends that way sometimes so like whatever yeah but these dudes didn't these dudes look like they were here to just crash the party and some of them end up getting in a fight over something stupid

[01:13:31] and yeah so like cops get called and and uh you know i'm i'm seeing like friends of mine getting fucking waylaid on by the cops like pushed to the ground a buddy of mine who uh a fucking harmless

[01:13:49] guy is like in the fucking front yard of this house fucking on his knees hands behind his back and he's got like two fucking pistols drawn on him yeah uh yeah like you know and i just like strut

[01:14:02] out of there like like nothing i'm just like i got my drink in my hand and you know people i know had like their parents came picked them up you know because we're all between like 18 20 21ish

[01:14:14] and then i'm like oh yeah i just like walked by with my drink and like no one says shit to me and people are like what the fuck man like how how'd you not get fucking i'm like first of all i

[01:14:24] think it's sloppy drunk well yeah but uh what i would do back then because i was always like thinking the head because the last thing i wanted to do was was getting trouble right i want i was

[01:14:35] always thinking about like how am i going to avoid getting my how am i going to keep my nuts out of the fray and uh so i would do is i would buy like a six pack of coke or something

[01:14:46] Pepsi and i would take like one or two bottles and like i would drink half of them and then fill the other half of those bottles with like vodka or whiskey or something so i'm just walking around

[01:14:57] like i'm drinking so like i'm a good kid like i go to church i go to church ossefer as i at one house party that i did i pulled this trick it was the dead of winter because the story i'm this story

[01:15:12] i'm telling here is middle of summer this is probably like a mid july kind of deal okay but same group of people old town fluorescent house party dead of winter i think it's probably

[01:15:24] like christmas break and i walk past the cops like it's nothing you know again people i know are getting fucking handcuffed and crying all this is a fucking terrible last scene yeah you know cops

[01:15:37] are like you know if you go home or call your parents and shit and i'm like i'm i'm like fucking i'm tight i'm cool as hell yeah i got the drink in my hand and i'm thinking i'm getting off scott

[01:15:48] free my other friend like ran off i could see him in his car his car was on and i'm like okay cool there's there's my boy like ram's gonna go home yeah and uh and i fucking walk right into a

[01:15:59] tree branch and i walk into that tree branch and i fucking fall fly on my fucking back oh no eat shit and i'm not that far from the cops and i remember like just thinking like oh i hope this

[01:16:12] is gonna be it this is it this is it i get up and the cops is like you good like yeah i'm good thank you he's like get him safe and i'm like all right yes sir and like i i get you know i get

[01:16:25] i get in and my buddy's car he drops me off at my mom's house and i'm like i'm like shuffling in yeah and my mom's in the living room like watching like a movie and she's just like oh how was siriana

[01:16:38] because my mom was my mom was such a killjoy that i had to like lie to her like why was like if i was going to hang out with britt i had to say i was hanging out with baker and i was hanging

[01:16:50] out with baker i had like i could never be i even as a i'm almost fucking 40 and i can't be fucking truthful to my mom because my mom doesn't even like good news oh that's not good but but i just

[01:17:01] remember like in that one moment just being like oh no i didn't really get it it was kind of walked away well honestly having seen the movie yeah you're not wrong yeah you know like i felt i felt

[01:17:12] like that was a good enough answer because i bet if my mom watched siri on she'd be like yeah yeah yeah what the fuck are you talking about on that note uh believe it's time for the breath mint

[01:17:23] jeez yeah let's get there it's time for your mom's favorite part of the show it's time for the breath of it brian what you got going a couple things sure hit me shout the earth tree oh still going

[01:17:40] on still uh slapping my balls against that hog okay uh it's it's good i've really enjoyed it so far i feel like it does not build upon the original base game enough but it still is very

[01:17:58] enjoyable um still a lot of creativity still some really cool biomes and all that but doesn't always nail the same sense of discovery excitement that the base game had still some really creative boss

[01:18:13] fights some cool new weapons my favorite one is a a long great sword called milady yes milady that one i've found to actually be pretty useful but that's been a main complaint people have had

[01:18:28] with the expansion is that there's all these new items but none of them are going to really be the stuff you had in the base game unless you're just having fun but i've found the few that i've

[01:18:38] enjoyed the dueling shield it's supposed to be really op but i can't find level one smith smithing stones hmm so i it's stuck at like plus five hmm i have a million of every other smith smithing

[01:18:53] stone except for the level one huh it's very annoying the thing that kind of got to me was that if you play this game and the way that the uh that's trying to shuffle you there's only

[01:19:08] three or four legacy dungeons it's a really short play in that respect if you're not just searching every nook and cranny so i got all the way to the final boss which is just handing my ass to me

[01:19:23] uh like d came home while i like first got to him and oh wow he looks really cool i'm like yeah watch him fucking beat my ass which he did like not even get one hit oh you can't even summon a spirit

[01:19:36] ash before in the time it before he mercs you and so i'm like well i don't want to bang my head against this let me see what else is going on with this game has an offer and everything else

[01:19:48] i've found like retrace some stuff like okay this is cool this is neat i wish i would have found it when i was at a lower level because now i'm just like cruising through yeah but there's one section

[01:20:00] called the abysmal woods which i originally thought was the abysmal swamp and i'm like oh no yeah oh wow something wow okay is there is there a grover house i was gonna say yes yes but the

[01:20:16] abysmal woods and there is a forced stealth section oh no that sucks i don't like forced stealth i didn't like it 20 years ago and like it three years ago i don't like it today thankfully

[01:20:27] it's really short but it's an annoying five or ten minutes still yeah not good but some of the bosses and some of the enemy builds i think are a little too tuned to only be effective with certain

[01:20:40] builds i feel like the base game you had a lot more leeway if you're going up against a boss that was immune or resistant to like whatever your damage type you know if you were like a

[01:20:55] bleed build or a magic build you just have a slightly hard time but wasn't going to be impossible right like there was probably still going to be some way you could you could work it and then

[01:21:06] be smart and clever and all that and shout out the earth tree is very fucking brutal there were some bosses that i could only beat by like completely using upgrading weapons i never

[01:21:21] used before upgrading spirit ashes i never used um and then i finally found you know i get to that build and then like the boss melts i'm like well this sucks i at least wanted a challenge

[01:21:33] i didn't want i wanted to like i because there's too many times i would get like one or two hits from a boss and just like fucking die yeah or i would not even get like everything fucking chugged

[01:21:50] and like cool i just wasted a rune arc because the rng because the ai in this game isn't very sophisticated now it wasn't in the base game either i think that's a thing to point out

[01:22:03] yeah and how i feel like from soft is compensating these things they're becoming very old and dogged is by like well we'll just give enemies elite enemies and bosses uh just longer chains

[01:22:20] yeah that's a complaint i've heard a lot you know and i don't like that i don't like um um i don't like having the dodge kill my stamina bar and then be like okay my entire opening i can

[01:22:34] just get one light hit on just like a one regular dude yeah that is the argument for no more the argument that like there should not be another holding ring yeah and maybe even the argument

[01:22:48] that there shouldn't be another souls born game unless you just want to get blood born two out of the way i do go that yeah uh i would be too but it feels like okay where can you take this because

[01:22:57] you had two and a half some odd years to build this expansion and it's cool it's fun i'm glad it exists but aside from like adding some more depth to the weird story and some cool toys and some cool

[01:23:14] like the cool shit but it doesn't feel like it's reiterating or building upon what's come before enough well i don't think that that that's the dlc's job i think you know dark souls three had that

[01:23:29] same issue where dark souls three was a very different experience than the other ones that had come before it and the succession of these incredibly difficult bosses leading up to dark eater meteor and it felt like yeah we've iterated all we can on this and now here's just

[01:23:51] something that's gonna put you in the dirt for a while yeah and that's the same way i mean blood borns dlc the old hunters it had that same feeling when you are like okay the build i have

[01:24:05] from the base game is not helping me here whatever you know whatever stuff that i had spacked is like well i gotta go back i gotta figure this out because this isn't working and i've heard the same complaints about this and i think it could just be

[01:24:23] how they do these dlc's almost as a it's like a way to send off this game that they're done with officially you know that's kind of like i really don't feel like they have any more room

[01:24:36] left in them to do more stuff with elden ring hopefully hopefully because i mean between elden ring we saw armored core and a return to armored core and that game had its faults but it was

[01:24:51] really fun to get back into what that game was and what that series has been it i feel like it harked back to the origin the first the playstation era armored core games in a way that i really

[01:25:06] appreciate yeah because it moved away from five verdict day and all that stuff from answer or whatever yeah and in a way that worked both armored core five games had their own

[01:25:22] picadillos and i think taking that particular series back more to its roots is good and so maybe in this fantasy idea that they have maybe we want to go back to more like a kingsfield i would love

[01:25:35] i would love to play a modern kingsfield yeah it's it's kind of what i was thinking like yeah what would a modern kingsfield look like that was one of the things that people were picking up

[01:25:44] off of demon souls when it came out i was like oh this feels like really weird and mysterious in the way that kingsfield felt and everyone else is like what the fuck's a kingsfield

[01:25:52] yeah well i'm trying to think of you know maybe it's time for a new ip maybe it's something that that they haven't even played with before because i mean they've they've released a bunch of stuff

[01:26:04] that runs the gamut i mean even the other mech game that they did the metal wolf chaos was more of a comedy game yeah but i mean they did 3d.gameheroes which was

[01:26:18] almost like a parody of a legend of zealot type of game and so the future is wide open they've got basically from me a blank check to do whatever and here's hoping that they figure out something

[01:26:33] either iterating on something they've done before or something like well we've never made a this type of game maybe we should do that i would be intrigued to see what what's on their

[01:26:41] plate because so what else is on the list we decided to binge the righteous gemstones oh boy and that was another that was originally a hbo series that like i showed my girlfriend like

[01:26:56] the first episode and it didn't really didn't click didn't click but like last week she's like oh what about that and so we watched the first season and i just forgot how much dicks in that

[01:27:10] show yeah and the jokes are really fucking weird the thing that i've always maybe have disliked about the righteous gemstones is that there's you can really feel the improv background to a lot of people

[01:27:25] there in that show much to the show's success and much to his detriment well it's either like the jokes are really great to the detriment of the plot and then the plots either really great to

[01:27:36] the detriment of the jokes if that makes sense there's not really a good balance between sometimes like the humor and like it's what the moral or whatever it's trying to yeah i think part of that

[01:27:46] also is down to performances like daniam mcbride and edie paterson fucking flawless but man adam divine is so hit or miss and a lot of his storylines that he gets are so fucking weird yeah

[01:28:00] john goodman can do no wrong walton goggins again can do no wrong whatever he does the guy who plays kief is oh anthony calvary yeah he's so good but even tim balts plays bj bj is surprising every time

[01:28:19] there's a storyline that revolves around bj i'm like oh yeah that guy's actually funny in this weird understated way oh shit yeah okay he's actually got something going on here but sometimes some

[01:28:33] episodes you'll forget he's even there yeah and then but then like a plot point will hit and it'll like turn on bj being there or doing something and you go oh yeah that guy's fucking funny

[01:28:44] what is a really funny is a really funny ass character and one of my bigger prickly points i feel like the show could be meaner towards its subject matter yeah mega church preachers

[01:28:58] yeah because i like the idea of saying that like in people that we looked out upon they may have layers and complications and there might be a part of the human experience that we can all relate to

[01:29:13] regardless of their disposition or station but like i think it just be a lot more funny if we were making fun of like the fall wells and like the 700 club and stuff yeah and i think a little

[01:29:24] bit more but i find out that day mcbride like grew up in a church and like his mom was like kind of like a figurehead in the congregation like they did puppet shows and stuff so he like what the

[01:29:37] church be feeling like the cool kid because his mom yeah like cool shit at the church and i feel like there's sometimes some humor in of the hypocrisy that exists and people like that

[01:29:50] that gets kind of glanced over because maybe they're a little too close to the subject matter in their own personal lives yeah it's entirely possible because i i mean dan mcbride has made

[01:29:59] it a career out of deflating some of these self-righteous people vice principles that you and i have talked about multiple times quaggambi or eastbound down even like the guy who thinks he's hot shit as a baseball player is really just a jackoff you know like fucking jeans

[01:30:19] so like those kind of almost trailer park boys type of things where you're like looking down on someone who is objectively a piece of shit is a lot easier to find the comedy and i think here

[01:30:32] they're shooting for more a mix of comedy and pathos and i think some of the jokes get lost when they're trying to humanize the gemstones and trying to make them sympathetic characters is especially judy like there's a whole bit in the more recent seasons where you start to

[01:30:48] fucking feel bad for judy right for a minute for a minute there's so much stuff in the first season where she is a does not realize how fucking terrible the human being she is and i think

[01:31:00] that's where the tension and the comedy comes from yeah like they're being huge pieces of shit i feel like uh kelvin and jesse yeah understand that they are flawed human beings right but g does not have that self-awareness and she's holding on to you know being the girl

[01:31:19] not getting the same respect as her siblings or her other family members ammy and baby brother billy has that same feeling but great baby brother billy is also a huge fuck up yes one of the

[01:31:31] funniest characters in the show oh walton goggins i mean my god that man but sometimes the joke isn't even like a like a traditional joke it's just how they say something right oh yeah danie

[01:31:46] mcbride's first episode of season two which we which we did last night you know they're uh was the way he was doing the sex talk the sex talk what you see well you they're trying to pressure

[01:31:57] jesse and amber uh are trying to pressure their eldest son geon to talk to the youngest son abraham because he's he's fucking crossed up his jock he's all over the place he's just fucking his room

[01:32:08] blowing come everywhere and you know we feel uncomfortable the way that that whole delivery is great but the meat what really breathe in the head like my girlfriend was like looking at

[01:32:18] some of our phone like this is the funniest part yeah you gotta be i don't think she found it as funny as i did but it's the part where he says you know jesse sits down i was like

[01:32:25] you know me and your mom just don't feel uh comfortable talking to your little brother about calm and man that is really just like danie mcbride's comic timing and sensibility he just knows when

[01:32:38] to like flip a phrase or something like because yeah like that's the reason vice principles works that's the reason that some of the shit in eastbound and downwind oh these are just guys that

[01:32:47] do car pranks with you know like that's gonna fool anyone what are you talking about shut up jesse yeah you know like when the end of season one where geon goes to uh was he yeah he was hating and uh

[01:33:08] you know and you know doing this like very like selfless things retribution for all his transgressions and his conflicts and that we put out through the the first season and like you know you'd think amber and jesse being parents uh you know

[01:33:26] high up in a big church congregation we feel really you know great about their son going into mission work but they're like my son ain't going to fucking hate you know they're just fucking living to give them water there's this disconnect i think makes the show sing between

[01:33:45] like yeah you expect this and then what you get is indignant anger about it like fireworks going off because it is the third of july and we are in the city we are indeed fireworks or gunshots

[01:33:59] i'm out of fucking hoosierville so that shit's been popping off for like a week oh we've had it for the past couple days but it's only gonna get it's only gonna get worse the only thing i

[01:34:08] i think the thing i really don't like about season two is air conjure yeah definitely a weak point unfortunately because i mean i've seen him in a lot of other stuff and most other

[01:34:17] stuff i've seen him in i enjoyed it but this this is a weak point it feels like a miscast yeah i feel like maybe uh handle barris but i've done a different uh i think it was also

[01:34:29] just like a weird kind of character for him to play because it's not really it's too straight laced yeah and eric andrew can do straight laced but he's trying to fit in this story

[01:34:44] it looks like he has to be the straight man character yeah because he's also acting opposite some great improvers and so like it feels like they're restraining him from improving in scenes where he probably should have yeah he's gotta be the center for everything moving around him

[01:35:04] and also i you know what he's a fucking mega church preacher and the first scene you see him in he's playing guitar and he's not playing the fucking 10 top prs well yeah that is that was like i hate

[01:35:18] to say it by son and like this is wrong right for the detail oriented show that it is yeah there's no way and someone who worked in guitar shops and had customers that were mega church preachers

[01:35:32] they would not be seen dead playing a fucking plain top less paul they'd be playing some fucking gawly ass fucking oh a natural r9 less paul it costs like eight or nine grand or a fucking 10 top

[01:35:44] library you know type selection prs with you know fucking ochi bokeh you know top with mother pearl binding uh you know rosewood pickup rings you know the the the rosewood neck right or a fully

[01:36:00] restored national just full silver like yeah but it's just something like gaudy yeah yeah and and that's i think i'm sorry you're not gonna i'm sorry you lost me yeah he's not playing he's not playing

[01:36:14] the custom 24 nope with a piece of fucking flame maple on the top that costs more in my car that's fair i hate to sound like you know one of those guys that picks out the flaws and like the

[01:36:28] sea in terminator two or the t-1000s and the fucking big rig chase them through the canal and it's like you know if you really look at the way he shifts it doesn't make sense

[01:36:40] he's a robot it doesn't matter anything in terminator movies can just be excused with he's a robot yeah doesn't matter the the the real answer why it doesn't look right is because

[01:36:50] he's not actually driving correct he's being dragged he's being pulled along on it yeah i think that's how it goes i forget but it's like i've seen it yeah it's not actually driving that truck

[01:37:00] correct um there's being pulled there's a movie magic going on yeah it's he's not actually driving there's no yeah sorry sorry guys try going outside i forgot how funny season two is and there's a really great character development with elie and and some good distraction

[01:37:21] what you think is going on but uh it's good it's good it's good i'm really excited to watch the rest of it with d i gotta cut up because there's gonna be a season four i gotta get her watching

[01:37:33] vice principles i feel like vice principles it's only two seasons it's really it's really sharp but speaking of walton goggins star of both righteous jumpstones and vice principles i started watching justified oh i had never seen justified it ran for six fucking seasons

[01:37:54] i didn't know a thing about it all i knew is that like oh it's timothy aliphont and he's uh us marshal and he goes around solving crimes or whatever i'm like that kind of feels it kind of

[01:38:06] feels like we've done this before timothy aliphont especially like a big fan of deadwood and like yeah he was the sheriff and that like okay maybe i've kind of seen this before i had not i had

[01:38:18] not seen anything like this before not necessarily anything but it is adapted from an elmore lennard story which is always a good point to start from uh there's a elmore lennard story called fire in the hole about a bunch of guys out in harland county kentucky

[01:38:35] and uh this us marshal gets in trouble for killing a man in miami and so they send him back to his hometown of harland kentucky rayland givans and you will remember the name because in every

[01:38:48] fucking episode at least five times someone will say his full name rayland givans as i live in some of that shit you know but uh so the main antagonist in the show is a boyd crowded played by walton goggans a boyd crowded is a fascinating character because he

[01:39:09] starts out as a neo-nazi fucking swastika shoulder tattoo and all and his whole thing why the hell i got this tattoo hate jews so he's yeah pretty much pretty much and so he was gonna say about

[01:39:25] which was him and so he go go on there again here i tell you my pal my scientist my researcher i paid a pay i got my calipers out there i don't i make nothing my gift to you

[01:39:43] nah so so he's playing a very different kind of character here he's actually playing kind of this layered complex guy that i think it's like okay this is really interesting and timothy

[01:39:54] elephant starts out as kind of like the straight lace lawman but as he gets drawn back into old family problems and in all this kind of political corruption in the town where he grew up

[01:40:05] he starts falling in with you know this girl used to like and then it's great it's it's much more layered than your typical cop show it's definitely not copaganda all these people that are on the

[01:40:18] us marshals service are assholes drunks or both which is great uh there's entire episodes that are strictly asshole of the week is what i've been calling them right not the heavies they're

[01:40:32] the asshole the week exactly like alan ruck shows up as as this guy who who used to be a accountant for the for the miami mob and then he went into hiding and went to dental school

[01:40:50] now he's doing so some jackoff mouths off to him at the dentist's office so he pulls out the guys veneers and then goes on the run with his dental assistant it's and that's just like one episode

[01:41:04] it's i'm in season two of six right now i'm deeply enjoying it season two is where you get margo martindale noted actress of stage and screen as this matriarch of a

[01:41:20] kentucky crime family oh it's once you start going on the the margo martindale arc and then you've got some some great character actors just coming and going from the show it's great i i'm having a

[01:41:32] good old time i love every time somebody you know railing givens as i live railing you will hear that name so much fucking time um but yeah justified boy what a what a hoot and why the

[01:41:46] fuck didn't i see this before that was my main thing like where have i been what have i been doing i've heard good things about justify like anyone who likes a good crime story i love an elmore lennard

[01:41:57] novel and i've never read fire in the hole either so um that was like oh there's an elmore Leonard i haven't read oh okay cool but somehow they got six seasons of television out of it so

[01:42:10] we'll see how how far they can stretch the premise but so far so good like the most recent one i just watched middle of season two void crowded which again walton goggans doing his level

[01:42:22] best at being unreadable fantastic he's getting drawn back into a life of crime middle of season one he's decided that he's out of prison he's going to be a preacher man and so he sets up this

[01:42:35] jesus camp in the middle of the woods and that ends horribly he's i know i'm going back to work in the mines i'm i'm gonna go i'm going straight well somebody comes in tries to draw him back into

[01:42:45] well instead of doing the crime he instead sets them up to be killed it's really solid work the other thing that that i did this week was i took a gamble there's a a theater chain marcus

[01:43:00] marcus theaters they're all over but here in missouri they're they're kind of taking over what used to be werenberg well they do something called mystery mondays so two three times a month

[01:43:13] they'll put on on a monday night a movie that's not out yet but you can get a five dollar ticket to go see whatever it is and you just show up at the movie theater seven o'clock and to do the

[01:43:28] previews and then boom here's your movie that you have no idea what this is all you know is the rating and how long it is so i did a couple guesses i was like oh it's gonna be this gonna

[01:43:38] i wound up seeing an apollo 11 themed rom-com called fly me to the moon yeah have you i i've heard about this okay because i hadn't heard a thing about people seem to be questioning at least online

[01:43:53] is this the worst thing ever or the second worst thing ever oh well see i enjoyed it so the basics of it is that scarlet joe hanson is an advertising executive and she's contacted by a mysterious government agent played by woody herlson

[01:44:08] and told the apollo mission needs your help to sell apollo to the american people and the launch commander is chanting tatum there are some great other character actors jim rash from community is in this it's a fun little flicks about two hours it's

[01:44:27] very interesting period stuff because it's set in 69 obviously right before the apollo 11 takes off and they get a lot of the cars right they get a lot of the the costuming is great

[01:44:38] everything kind of looks right even the some of the nasa stuff where you think oh you know we don't have a lot of photos of that time period or or it just it looks right for some

[01:44:49] reason it reminds me a lot of ron howe's apollo 13 they got a lot of the look right and that goes a long way and it's also just like funnier that has any right to be you'd think it would be like okay

[01:45:03] it's kind of a cheesy rom-com or whatever but it's it's genuinely amusing i really enjoyed it i don't know that i would have gone to see it were it not the mystery movie that's what

[01:45:13] i think is the most interesting part because i don't know that it's going to do well despite having a lot of star power that's in the cast doing worse and furiosa which is a damn shame

[01:45:23] it's one of those ones where it's kind of a pleasant surprise i've done that before i've gone to a movie not knowing really much of anything where it's like okay it's got one person

[01:45:33] i like or it's got a director i like i don't really know anything about it i want to see a movie i'll go fucking see this there's a matinee show like whatever i got the day off

[01:45:42] it feels like it's a lot harder to do that nowadays it feels like it feels like i see a lot more about movies but for some reason i knew nothing about this completely taken by surprise i thought that

[01:45:58] it was going to be the movie space camp which i had seen some stuff about like okay pg-13's about two hours that's got to be space camp which they are coming out really close to each

[01:46:09] other too so who knows what that's about but that one's more like a legally blonde in space but this one is definitely it feels a very old school it feels very much like if you'd made this movie

[01:46:25] in the 70s you know you'd have natalie wood in the skylet your hansen part and you'd have like not necessarily rock Hudson but a rock Hudson type in the chanting tatum part you know the

[01:46:38] gruff handsome fella who's kind of rough around the edges those types of character actors and for all its faults which it has a few aminuses it's again it's a little long for a rom-com about

[01:46:51] the Apollo mission it's two hours could have been could have been cut down to 105 could have been cut down to 90 but you know despite all that needle drops are good setting looks great costumes

[01:47:05] are good it's fun to look at some charming attractive people having a romance on the screen not a lot that you can really complain about it's also just very silly at certain points because

[01:47:15] there's the whole subplot and i'm sure this was spoiled in the marketing there's a whole subplot about a project Artemis which was that they were going to fake the moon landing to broadcast

[01:47:28] on television alongside the audio from the actual Apollo 11 mission someone gets wind of that and so they decide well we're gonna fix it so that they actually show the real footage and not the fake

[01:47:42] that we've made it's this great comedy of errors towards the end it's real fun yeah it's inoffensive that's the thing i think is going to draw a lot of people to its PG 13 it's an

[01:47:54] offensive there's like a kiss in the movie the only thing that the PG 13 is going to get him for is some of the swearing i mean there's it's a fun movie i like that sounds interesting okay i might

[01:48:06] check that out yeah that about does it for me well anything else yeah actually have two quick ones that go by sure thing because uh d has been like you haven't talked about these movies oh shit yeah

[01:48:18] and like just because we have a whole entire month i know yeah a little tough there but um so two in particular i want to talk about one bottoms i enjoyed that quite a bit i love bottom

[01:48:31] it's probably the best like high school comedy since super bad yeah i guess we're really getting to the point where you can only make a movie like that every time or so years not overly self aware that's a lot of great bits a lot of great characterization like

[01:48:48] yeah yes this is an archetype archetype there's a little bit of depth just enough everything works it doesn't feel too artificial or too forced really well acted and well executed film i enjoyed it quite a bit march on lynch what do you think of march on lynch

[01:49:06] fucking killed it i know isn't that weird i know that well a lot of people were saying when that came out i was like man he fucking killed it he should do more stuff like he's funny

[01:49:14] like yeah good timing and i think it also feels like a movie where a lot of the humor i feel just comes from like the gelling of the cast like i feel like people were really feeding off each other's

[01:49:25] energy there's a lot of great bits it's a vibes based movie yeah it's fun i enjoyed it uh complete 180 uh when uh these friend was visiting he had a apple tv thing full of fucking movies and one of them

[01:49:43] was uh martyrs martyrs i have not seen this one i've heard so much about it so it is an incredibly explicit european horror film i want to say from like 2008 or 2007 they had when i worked

[01:49:58] at blockbuster and it was a heavily edited version which i do remember people complained to me about that was blockbuster but it is basically it follows the story of a young woman who escapes this torture facility or she's just being straight fucking tortured there ain't no

[01:50:15] there ain't no fun she's just getting cow proud kind of shit you know just dang all you ain't you know smile girl kind of shit she is trying to have somewhat of a normal life

[01:50:26] it appears but she can't move past beyond this trauma and so she enlists a friend from the orphanage that she ends up in to hunt down the family members or the family that she believed

[01:50:41] did this to her okay and it starts off with a fucking amazing gory scene and there's just a lot of stuff going on it's very intense in the way that european horror films were in the late

[01:50:57] aughts like uh record yeah quarantine uh trying to think of another one but yeah those two sick out but i really enjoy that the the ending ending's cool there's some stuff i really like about the

[01:51:15] ending uh has a really great kind of just final thump to it that i really enjoy the reveal is great there's a couple really fantastic reveals um it keeps you on your fucking toes the basically

[01:51:30] the entire movie in a way that's really admirable is exhausting yeah and how tense and upsetting and explicit it can be but i think that's a testament to the the vision of the director the work of the

[01:51:45] actors and and everyone involved like it it's just a really well-executed film yeah french horror in the early 2000s or than the in the mid-2000s was definitely a place to be because you had that

[01:51:59] you had high tension i mean there were a few real bangers coming out of that that time period i'm very excited i still have yet to see it i know there was another movie called martyrs it was a

[01:52:11] remake apparently was it oh okay well i'll pass the director his poll quote in the wikipedia article about the original movie is pre damning of the remake i had bad contract

[01:52:25] uh he's french he's french i had a bad contract i didn't even get paid for it that's really doing the only thing i regret in my career that my name is now associated with such a junk film

[01:52:35] i didn't even get that sent for it i tried to watch it but only got through 20 minutes it was like watching my mother get raped oh yeah then i stopped raping your mother life is too short

[01:52:47] and the american system a movie like martyrs is just not possible this summer movie and turned it into something completely uninteresting uh yeah so apparently this again according to wikipedia jordan peel had lapida and yongo watch martyrs to prepare for her role in us

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