Episode 100 : A Dead Raccoon In A Pyrex Box (feat. Devin O'Shea)

[00:00:00] Dog shit used to turn white. And it was better. They used to put too much bone meal in the dog food, and it would turn the shit white. Now this shit is just shit colored. We used to have magic color changing dog shit.

[00:00:22] But this woke mind virus has taken that away from us. 48 minutes of dogs barking, 48 minutes of dogs barking. Growl! Growl! 48 minutes of dogs barking, 48 minutes of dogs barking. You ever seen black steel now black steel rules

[00:01:02] It's like what two American cops go to Japan to like learn the way of the Asian. Yes police officers There's some really great cinematography isn't that Rudger Hauer I think so Okay. Yeah. Well ladies and gentlemen, it's 48 minutes dogs barking. My name is Jason

[00:01:19] This is Brian alongside for the ride with us tonight Our guest is a hometown boy making good all over a frequent guest on Q Anon anonymous whose writing has been featured in

[00:01:29] Jacobin slate protea magazine Chicago quarterly St. Louis public radio St. Louis magazine cult magazine among many many others as well as the author of The upcoming book veiled prophet, please. Welcome st. Louis's own Devin O'Shea welcome to the show Devin

[00:01:43] How are you? Thank you for the introduction. Thank you for having me on If I started listening on every magazine that I've ever read an article of yours and it would be it would be the next hour

[00:01:54] I think because it prolific I think is the way I have you guys ensnared also because it's like at every register Local or like national. Yeah, it's always You got something going on one way or the other yeah, first of all, that's got to feel pretty good. Yeah

[00:02:12] Uh, yeah, it feels like a treadmill that just keeps spinning faster and faster. Is that good? Sure I guess I guess it depends on how hungry you are for freelance work It is fun to say no to stuff that I really don't want to do anymore

[00:02:27] Like I think I've done my last St. Louis magazine feature on like a startup that wants to Do AI for voting or whatever? Oh You're so you're giving up the towel on writing about Silicon Prairie. Yeah, exactly the cortex

[00:02:47] Districts can't buy me off as easily I can still be bought off really easily but All right, so like how much I mean just this I will cut this but how much are we talking like?

[00:02:58] Yeah, I know we're gonna talk about the riverfront times. They were paying out, you know, 50 bucks per article Yeah, yeah, it's like eight hours of work for 50 bucks Oh man, they were they were paying me I think $75 a faux gallery during first

[00:03:15] Well, how many photos did they want in the gallery though? It kind of depended on the situation some things They sent me out for I mean I could come back with 50 foes real easy some things

[00:03:26] It would be closer to 30. Well, but I was like also super fucking hungry at that time and Allison Bobka was kind of the freelance wrangler at the time and she Was and still is a peach of a person. Yes

[00:03:39] Yeah to make her happy you felt like a good thing to do in this world So yeah, no problem in general again, like a very pleasant very accommodating and thoughtful individual So I've kind of said this on some level I think Jason's probably heard this sentiment

[00:03:52] But I feel like a lot of the eulogies for the RFT that I read, you know a month or so ago Were really for a publication that hadn't existed for the better part of a decade. Yeah for sure You did some really good stuff

[00:04:05] you know, they brought in like their first staff photographer since I think like Jennifer Silverberg like, you know 15 years ago and that guy was doing some good work and then like they They folded and the the see someone from from st

[00:04:22] Louis like actually like getting published and like writing and on top of all that actually doing good work is a beautiful and rare thing Thank you. I'm not alone

[00:04:30] But that's like the biggest loss to the ecosystem is just the riverfront times put some like lines on your resume You know, it's like it legitimized It helps that like

[00:04:43] That system I think we all in this room have either worked or written for the riverfront times because I know I did A couple pieces from time to time. Oh nice. Yeah, when David Sedaris came to town did I did a bit of there?

[00:04:55] I did it when they did a John Waters double feature at Laumier Sculpture Park Oh nice couple art shows. I did a feature for the music section On on the noise band lightning bolt

[00:05:08] So I mean there have been a few things that that I've thrown my hat in the ring there But yeah like 50 bucks an article I can knock that out in my sleep Oh what a thousand words and I get to call Brian Chippendale sure why not

[00:05:22] When you're when you're like when you know in your 20s and you're hungry just do cool shit like oh 50 bucks Let's be you know, I can go out get trash for that. That's beer drinking money. Well, um, yeah

[00:05:34] Not not really paying bills money. No, no, that's that's the point Yeah, but yeah, I think something that that was really great about the RFP is it was a stepping stone for a lot of people It was a great thing to put on your resume

[00:05:47] It was a great place to get experience and that kind of I want to say like 2016 2017 kind of really stopped Being that yeah. Yeah, I have a close friend who was a staff writer there day

[00:06:01] Yeah, Danny. Yeah, Danny fucking rules. He's I'm when he moved over to st. Louis Public Radio Sarah Fenske I was gonna say it was kind of like I guess someone who's like a bit of a mentor role to him

[00:06:15] So he was really excited to be working with her again after she left the RFT and then she went back to the RFT He's like, oh, I think we'll go back to RFT. I'm like no, no

[00:06:26] Your gang paid like something resembling a living wage. Yeah, you're I think they're Union now So like you're like, yeah, you got dental now. So You got dental 401k with at least a 2% match Public Radio is not a bad place to wind up

[00:06:42] Especially when it comes to journalism and all that so absolutely Yeah, I've forgotten that yeah, it was Sarah Fenske at the time because she was my go-to person. I'd be like, hey Sarah I wanted to write this thing and she's like, yeah, okay. She was out on

[00:06:57] Maternity for most of my time now. It's really okay I still I'm still amazed at like I got paid to like photograph like asset cat festival and livery absolutely and things like King Kong and the Shrines off-Broadway

[00:07:11] At the time I was like, yeah, it's just a gig now. I look at bad Like I got I actually got paid money To do that and like That doesn't exist. Yeah that infrastructure really did take a shit it did

[00:07:24] It's all fucking pivot the video and adventure capitalists Do you think that's what happened? What are your conspiracy theories here? I really do think that like VC money and me really hollowed everything out particularly in Markets like st. Louis. They were already pretty

[00:07:41] Precarious. Yeah, I kind of saw the writing on the wall when I was covering Ferguson Like I kind of saw where the the holes were and the masks as it were right and maybe in a weird selfish way

[00:07:52] Covering something so serious like that. Like I hope this gets me out of st. Louis I hope this gets me to Atlanta or Chicago or a slightly bigger media market I do stuff for like the arts STL, but like that's just for the the love of the game

[00:08:06] Right. No one's making any money off of that The guy who runs it Jason Green has expressed that he wished there was a way other than running ads To make it like, you know give people like some beer money for for writing stuff, but it's really just

[00:08:19] It's all people that would be writing about me and st Louis if there were were like a structure for like actual freelancing No, wasn't the story of the arts STL that they were a bunch of expats from playback?

[00:08:30] Yeah, a lot of people from playback, which didn't pay either but like it was fun It was nothing like you did because like it was I mean But that that was like the the beauty of things in the aughts

[00:08:41] Was that you kind of would do stuff like that just to get the experience to get your your foot in the door And the fact that you weren't getting paid wasn't such a pain in the ass

[00:08:50] There's such an issue because you're gaining so much experience. Yeah, you're building you're getting your clippings up You're kind of you're getting your tear sheet going and um your networking. Um, but it just What disappeared was that next step? Right? Yeah, so

[00:09:06] There's if you're writing about me, I mean kevin from the post he's now waiting at live nation I was gonna say yeah, he he moved on. Well, I mean he hung on there longer than most

[00:09:16] Yeah, I will give him credit for that. He definitely how many times can you write about shakespeare in the park? Yeah, it's shakespeare in the park like what else are you gonna write about?

[00:09:25] Yeah, so debin thank you by the way for for coming on to the show and and bringing your st Louis specific shall we say expertise? I guess your point of view your uh point of view. We'll stick with that Yeah, that sounds good

[00:09:38] So we're gonna kick off this episode with a little bit of schadenfreude in the face of some cyber truck stuff You know, I love to shit on the cyber truck brian. Absolutely. Yeah

[00:09:48] Have you seen one person yet devin? Yeah, I was uh hiking through forest park and uh up near the Planetarium there was one parked in like the parking lot

[00:10:04] I i'm sort of picturing like maybe the managing director of the science center is like oh I gotta have the elon truck Good luck brother, you know that thing is gonna heat up this summer

[00:10:20] Well, that does tie into our story here so someone on twitter i'm never calling it x fuck that um Someone on twitter at teslanomics Which you already know they got teslanomics in the name and the blue check. Oh, it's gonna be

[00:10:36] So so right here is a short video If you ever get kicked out of the house by your significant other for buying the cyber truck You know where you can still sleep in style There's this video here is 17 seconds. It is uh, for some reason in japanese

[00:10:54] but yeah, so gentleman is uh Lying in the bed of the cyber truck and then closing the canopy and then turning on the interior light He's got a little padded bed in there. Yeah. Yeah, I mean if he had 12 pack In there, I would be like hell. Yeah

[00:11:09] It's like a 10 mg and just like Yeah, you'd be done the 10 mg. He's got a couple things of beef jerky in there low sodium Like that's that sounds all right

[00:11:22] But the fact that it's just like a camping mattress was like nothing on it is just bare no blankets. No nothing Yeah, it's yeah, he's raw dogging it in there Just I can't immediately thought of like yeah

[00:11:33] And as soon as his battery dies he's going to be broiled alive in the death trap truck I fuck I just Yeah Why loved was immediately when I saw this at someone's photoshop of uh millhouse's dad. Yeah

[00:11:50] I sleep in a cyber truck. You know, are you sleeping? I sleep in the bed with my wife Goddamn the post even has that line about you know

[00:12:01] Your significant other kicks you out of the house for buying the cyber truck and I could see my wife doing that if I spent That's much money on this fucking car

[00:12:08] It's so weird to see how guys like get the truck and how they treat it because it's like yeah, dude It's bulletproof and also I can live in it and it's like a castle and a jet at the same time It's like it doesn't have to be

[00:12:23] It could just be a car Brother it doesn't have to survive the apocalypse. Oh, but the bed I don't even think it's like a standard like oh no 10 foot bed so you can't even put like shit in it

[00:12:34] No, because someone was like, oh i've tried to take this thing out with my bikes and they couldn't fit a fucking mountain bike In the car like okay, that's so depressing

[00:12:44] My fucking mom's toyota truck from the night I was gonna say yeah, she's great fit bikes all day Yeah, and also probably had like half the body weight and half the problems like when you leave the truck was a tank man

[00:12:58] Yeah, and all of them got recalled, right? I don't know It's just like when does the bubble on that like finally actually pop such a shit show. I don't even know I can't Because there are so many of these fanboys that are just

[00:13:12] They're dick writing so hard and I know that's in politic to say but they're fucking they're dick writing Yeah, they're that's all they're doing. Oh, yeah, they're fucking grinding their

[00:13:22] The pelvis and the dust on this and they're and they're such man. I feel like they're such shitty cars Yeah, my favorite account is the tesla owners of mars Uh guy he makes tiktoks also that are wildly unpopular

[00:13:37] But I have gotten him into my corral of weird dudes on tiktok Every time he does a video I leave like a comment. That's just like really the meanest thing I'm Being like hey, man. Nobody's believing this it's all a sham. Everybody can see right through you

[00:13:55] Oh god, I hope he reads them Jesus christ i'm scrolling through this guy's twitter feed and jesus christ Oh, it's brutal every single one of these tweets reads like a fucking hammer hitting the empty cylinder of a revolver God damn Oh man just

[00:14:17] Uh, yeah there here's uh my kind of this is a resweet of his from the account tacos and teslas My kind of friday night it says and then it's a it's a picture of someone washing their tesla

[00:14:31] And then the big reveal is in the second photo where the license plate says doge the number two M n so doge to the moon Hey My god What a rube I have seen to the moon chocked on like sidewalks around barge jewish hospital

[00:14:52] And like the central west end. Oh, that's terrible Very that's fucking cursed not good Now let's go from things about cars that suck. Yeah things about cars that rule exactly Duxerto brought this to us Apparently a guy on youtube goes by the name of alex choy

[00:15:09] He copped federal charges after filming two women in a helicopter shooting fireworks at a lambo And the video is fucking amazing. So here's The guy you just got Hell yeah, yeah, no this rules and it's party in the usa by

[00:15:31] I think there might be someone in the lambo also shooting fireworks back at them. Yeah But I mean like they're in the salt flats they're just dicking around and like nobody's getting hurt like the fuck

[00:15:42] So did he get the federal charges for being on the salt flats? Is that the issue or no? So according to the dexerto article, it's uh federal charges. Let's see here june 2023 This courtesy of dylan harretzky over there at dexerto

[00:15:56] choy hired helicopter pilots and drone operators to film a quote crazy hectic firework show Where two women can be seen shooting firework cannons aimed at a lamborghini out of the side of a helicopter hovering above a barren lake on june 4th 2024

[00:16:13] A criminal complaint and arrest warrant were filed against alex choy for quote causing the placement of an explosive or incendiary device on an aircraft They got him on one of the post 9 11 Yeah

[00:16:26] So he wasn't even the one shooting the fireworks the complaint states that they have probable cause to believe that he committed the crime as he Admitted several times in the video as being the mastermind behind it

[00:16:38] So yes, that was the el mirage dry lakebed in california that is considered federal property So I think that does factor into it what brian said as well the complaint reads

[00:16:47] About the first three minutes the videos show various dramatic action scenes a female and male acting as police officers discuss Going to find an individual is speeding The female is then shown getting into a helicopter in the subsequent clips two females are seen on board a helicopter

[00:17:01] While the helicopter is airborne and the females are holding and shooting fireworks out of the helicopter onto and towards a lamborghini the faa revoked the license of the pilot in the video And they revealed in the document that it was because the altitude it was flying

[00:17:17] And the fireworks being shot from the aircraft created a hazard We used to be a proper country took them a year to get this guy because it says yeah, june 2023 they filmed it it wasn't until last week free my man Yeah, exactly Because this shit rules. I'm sorry

[00:17:32] Like this is this is like what you're supposed to do when you have more money than sense Like you're not supposed to be investing in startups or like harassing women You're just supposed to be breaking shit in the most interesting way possible dicking around having fun in california

[00:17:45] What the fuck? Yeah, like what do you want more than you want out of life? What yeah next like you can't like, you know, like, you know drink out of the hose I'm also imagining the cop of just having this one that just hangs over him every day

[00:18:00] For like a whole year and he's like i'm gonna get these fuckers She's like like raylon gibbons in justified. He's just like i'm gonna get him. Yeah, he's just Yeah I don't know when I don't know way up but i'm gonna get it breaks up his marriage

[00:18:21] You're always obsessed about the lamborghini in the desert Give it up with the babes shooting fireworks I think those fireworks mean more to you than I do. Well, maybe you're right, you know

[00:18:36] All right, well we go from a fun one to um, I don't know a funny one at least It's kind of funny, yeah Anytime we have a trad wife. Yeah Not good some weird territory getting up the weird stuff good

[00:18:48] So this year from josh phalo at the daily beast trad wife tiktoker axed from job after casually saying the n-word trad wife tiktoker by the name of lily gattis referred to her friend's husbands as broke ass n-words Dropping the racial slur in a slight southern drawl so naturally

[00:19:11] Many speculated she must use it in casual conversation josh. I gotta love the sentence structure right there. That's the exception. I'm the rule Everybody I know who's married right now. They're bright married to broke ass niggas

[00:19:23] Okay. Now she tried to soften that r but boy you can't hide that r I think it's a harder r than andrew tates That's harder than most things of andrew tates let's be honest but

[00:19:36] She's just in such a like pristine kitchen. Also, you can tell that she's just like Surrounded by gobs of money and that white tile just gives it away And yet she's so angry. Mm-hmm and the vintage fridge and all the the fucking yeah

[00:19:53] It's it's all a show obviously but like jesus christ All you had to do was not say the n-word guys, yeah, and yet they fail the challenge every time every time so of course she went online to

[00:20:07] Clap back at the haters as you do when you've done nothing wrong. This is the juicy part Yeah, she goes on and on about oh the backlash really, you know

[00:20:15] I had I had to sit in a think and i'm not sorry good good choice and then includes the clip of Is that bright bart? I think that might be andrew bright bart. I mean it's you're gonna call us racists, right?

[00:20:28] You're gonna call us fascists. But you know what war And like uh, if it wasn't cringe enough before now we've hit peak. This is it Yeah, it's wild how she immediately was like, oh, this is my way into a right wing commentary job

[00:20:44] Everyone kind of knows that that's just the grift you can immediately segue into Because I believe she said something along the lines that she was like had like an interview with info wars or something lined up Yep. Yep folks are going we're going to uh, uh playo, texas

[00:21:00] Right to a real patriot here Owen schorier is from our city and from the same high school that I went to I know where'd you go to high school? Oh, you know, uh, what's a funny thing? I could say to that you can we'll bleep it out

[00:21:17] I went pee pee poo poo high school pee pee poo poo. Yeah You went to Yeah, what year did you graduate? I was out of there in 2008 right in time for the economy to crash perfect. Yeah, I I was out of there in 99. So oh, there we go

[00:21:33] I'm real river trash. I graduated from hazel west Hey, you graduated. Hey you graduated I graduated from a school north of north of 40. I should i'm pat myself. You're damn right as well You should well done, sir. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah my uh My girlfriend's not from here

[00:21:50] She's always kind of amazed like how many like celebrities or musicians or like noble people are from here And I always say like ones like they had enough smarts to get the fuck. Yeah, they got out. Yeah, but um

[00:22:00] But she's like I feel we were talking about but I had like tell her that mike brown and sexy red both Went to the same high school That's a cool fact She's like the fuck and i'm like, yeah, man That's just

[00:22:11] How it is like i've worked with people that like could tell me like older guys like boomers like about yeah You know in the 70s. I used to we used to play uh softball with uh, young good Goodman good. Yeah He got it in one he got it

[00:22:26] Yeah He just like show up and like fucking school us and just slam a bunch of beers and just like fucking high tail In a camaro Afton and i'm like that fucking rules. That's baller shit. Yeah Yeah, you mentioned sexy red I was

[00:22:39] I was coming back home from from going to the grocery store and there's sexy red. I'm like, okay cool And then I realized oh fuck featuring drake. Oh no No, oh no Her part on that song is pretty tight No

[00:22:51] But it's just like I don't want to hear him anymore. No one wants to hear anything from drake Would drake go home go home drake? I think she might have picked the wrong horse when she was like getting really popular there

[00:23:03] Because she like linked up with drake before all of the Kendra right with lamar stuff a couple more here. Let's see here bank underscore Oh, sorry bank of underscore am erica on twitter This week posted I married a tech bro this week

[00:23:22] I'm officially a tech wifey already i'm cringing but it gets worse Here's the top 10 worst things about marrying a tech bro And this is a full fucking thread when he cream pies me. He says installing linux

[00:23:39] 10 smiling and nodding at the guy who pitches you his crypto uranium startup at a tech event Jesus christ number nine realizing tech hubby doesn't know how computers work either and then in parentheses Why did I even marry him?

[00:23:55] And this is again, this is 10 and 9. We're not even anywhere close to the top I like it so much worse. Yeah, eight. He wants to name our kid elon

[00:24:04] Number seven realizing tech bros have a point about elon. No, they don't I really hate that. I really hate that Number six i'm forced to remember all these tech events due to increased sober movement in tech

[00:24:15] There is only wire lacroix and red bull. I don't know man. I would just be filling my pulse My purse full red bull. You know what like this is well sure. Yeah cash out when you can

[00:24:25] Yeah, yeah number five having to agree with my man that quote zuck has swag And quote zuck got that drippy drip. I cannot believe an adult wrote this shit and put it online

[00:24:38] It's I want to believe it's parody. I want it's it's pose law all over again. I can't like I'm having trouble Number four listening to all in podcast. I think this is the worst one for me because it's like it's signaling that she's

[00:24:54] Also, like I don't know that listening to that podcast has got to be like nails on a chalkboard, right? Have you guys ever interacted with any of those guys? I'm not even sure what that is all in oh, it's so bad

[00:25:09] It's like a bunch of investor guys from silicon valley who are like just billionaire influencers basically Oh, wow, that does sound terrible It's a non-stop diatribe of like why they think they're doing the right thing for humanity So it is like an interesting case study

[00:25:28] And they're like fucked up little brains, but it's like the altruism shit that sam bakerman free was doing Kind of exactly. Yeah, I think all those guys are At least we're into that like three years ago

[00:25:43] I don't know what the new thing is now apparently it's being sober. Yeah new things being sober I think all birds are out. Hey dudes. It's hey dudes now dudes Oh, yeah being sober is in Sorry, we're not microdosing ayahuasca with jack dorsey and his mud hut

[00:26:03] Not drinking raw water and getting yellow fever Oh boy, so number three mentally preparing to live on mars since our first date Well, first of all you are You're not yeah Number one think that that was going to be like a far off thing

[00:26:25] That musk was gonna be accomplished like well, maybe he's just fucking up But that has to be the end game and then finding out like no it's just like Just creating a bunch of space junk. That's the end game Yeah

[00:26:37] It is really weird that they have like in like they're treating mars as if they're talking about like A heaven in the great awakening or like yeah, they're talking about mars the way that like the mormons are

[00:26:51] Amongst themselves talking about the planet that they're gonna inherit, you know it's like It's such a clear replacement of God we shouldn't have killed god promised land. Yeah, we're gonna we're all gonna make it to mars apparently

[00:27:07] number two justifying that I would be terrified to see a humanoid robot in my home in the middle of the night as Though I am the crazy person Okay

[00:27:15] First of all, the emphasis is wrong on that sentence if i'm going to be a copy editor for a second here as though I am the crazy person is the emphasis not I am a crazy person But anyway, some things drive me crazy

[00:27:28] Bad emphasis is a huge one, especially if you're doing it in all caps on fucking twitter For some reason I get stupid about it But uh, yeah humanoid humanoid robots. Yeah, that's not happening either

[00:27:40] I'm sorry as much as you love your boss said dynamics. That's this no, come on. What the fucking type I um Would absolutely love to find one of those boss and dynamics things like going down my street and just hitting it with my car

[00:27:54] Just fucking floor it just blasting blasting fucking motorhead. Hell yeah Yeah Call all my boys. Yeah, you won't believe why I fucking got pinned under my fucking toyota man And you know my ass is jumping in the car with it

[00:28:10] With a bag of hammers everyone's hopping over it was hopping over to the metro east. Yeah, beat the shit out of the boss dynamics Fuck i'll call devin let's go. Let's get him in let's fucking let's make it happen

[00:28:23] Yeah, fucking string it up on a tree and hit like a pinata Oh, the problem is that you know, you do that one too many times and then they're like, okay

[00:28:32] We got to put self-defense guns on the boss and dynamic dog. That's gonna be able to fire at will this theory Because of how that thing moves if you just put like a really heavy like rock

[00:28:44] On the flat part of its body it would just hold it down or at least slow it down. Yeah I don't know Yeah, like a big boulder Well somebody showed the schematics and you can actually like reach up under its like underbelly and pull the battery out

[00:28:59] Yeah, that was actually something That when the first ones that started Oh, this is kind of like really becoming close to being a militarized operation or like when they were being used by uh, Like the nypd

[00:29:12] There was a an infographic that went around about how to get under one and rip out its battery I felt like that was a very useful thing. Whoever wrote that. Um, yeah kudos to them. Yeah, big shows

[00:29:24] Of course number one here on this list perhaps the status of them all Hearing him and his boys talking about ai girlfriends as if it's normal This is your wife you're talking about

[00:29:35] This is your wife talking about her husband just got married and be like yo, she kind of like loki sucks Now what really fucked me up is that apparently

[00:29:46] Immediately like a day after all this stuff went got posted around the internet because people you know like to share A shit like this She adds a link in the thread memes make millions This

[00:30:00] And it is the book by jason levin god damn author jason levin this from the altamira.studio website Author jason levin went deep into the underground world of memes first of all, fuck you see Jesus christ interview internet famous meme lords like jack reins

[00:30:19] Charlie light eric jhu bored elon musk and more I've never heard of any of these people couldn't get tall bark couldn't get Couldn't get uh ascended one. Yeah

[00:30:32] Tell you about the lease of lisa one clones beneath area 51 and how delicious casey piece of casey's pizza is couldn't get drill You know like Fuck yeah, it's insane to sell this for 18 Yeah for the physical copy I think is what?

[00:30:49] Yeah, this is for the print copy the the pdf edition 12 dollars I'm sure deal This can't be more than like 200 pages either because it's like How do you make memes? Uh, I don't know I go on trending and look what's trending and then do a bunch of shit

[00:31:11] That can't fill more than 200 pages. It doesn't matter how many people you talk to this seems like the saddest version of uh, Like parrying or um inadvertently ripping off the klf's book on how the riot hit song Oh the the system

[00:31:25] System, yeah, or no, wait that that's not right. Wait. No The system is like uh, the I think you might be thinking about the manual. I'm sorry. The manual is the is the book by the klf by bill drummond and uh rock boy rock, yep

[00:31:43] How to have a number one the easy way klf says thomas harford The justified ancients of mu mu revealed their zen anarchist method used in making the unthinkable happen What a great phrase Devin have you ever read the manual by the klf? I haven't that sounds amazing though

[00:32:01] It is a step-by-step guide. I have read this thing cover to cover. It is insanely stupid, but it is also For like 1988 because it was all about how to get a number one hit in britain, right? And I can certainly see Someone reading this book

[00:32:18] Following all these steps completely and getting that number one hit me like oh, yeah, this is absolutely right There's um, like three or four bands in the 90s that said they basically Followed this one of them was chumbawumba Oh, is that right big hit really basically?

[00:32:34] They basically like fuck it. Let's let's see if this works and it did Well, yeah, because chumbawumba notoriously not a Anarchist collective. Oh, yeah that made like a fucking banger pub song

[00:32:47] The only other song that some people that I knew had heard of that was a song called mouthful of shit I was like this is the band that wrote mouthful of shit. Okay. All right

[00:32:59] They went from mouthful of shit to like the lead soundtrack of home alone three god Oh, no That's pretty sick I forgot the home alone three was even a thing It's pretty bad. Absolutely

[00:33:16] I think the song holds up despite its being tarnished with home alone three the worst song retroactively, uh forgives a lot of sins of 90s music, uh, because it's just like Something about getting drunk and singing. Yeah, what else do you want? And yeah the working class

[00:33:36] It's about the working class getting punched as it always has throughout history and still Maintaining, you know zealotry. Yeah, fuck you thatcher. We came back Yeah, I think they said they wrote it right like after the coal miners. Well, it seems appropriate

[00:33:51] Yeah, oh boy. All right one last thing to uh to get us through the week here The good folks over at cracked Introduced me to the ice still every once in a while will read a cracked article

[00:34:03] You are one of god's strongest warriors it is not easy. It's not easy ever since uh, dr. Mr. Cody left and Uh, jason pargin left like a lot of the best writers decamped for other things. I've got obviously jason pargen

[00:34:17] novels, uh, sean baby's got his own site, you know a lot of these guys kind of decamped for their own thing But they're still every once in a while had their pulse on things and this Really fucked me up. So the headline

[00:34:30] This is keegan kelly who wrote this by the way the headline a weekend update romantic fan fic perplexes the snl fandom, okay? Uh, I didn't really I don't really know there was an sl fandom, but I guess that makes sense

[00:34:46] I don't think there is as much as there was at one point But I think people are still you know following the show for people are freaks. Yeah. Yeah Absolutely disgusting

[00:34:56] Oh, there's like a ton of freaks out there that are like, you know what? The funniest thing is snl for the last three years Yeah, yeah I worked with some people at my last job that despite all like their weird q non-adjacent viewpoints

[00:35:11] Really loved snl for some reason I do think hillary linden is eating babies and also yeah Keenan is so funny Michael shay, what a handsome fella. He's he's one of the good ones. Yeah, it's not that there aren't good snl skits

[00:35:28] No, but they're few and far between no, they're few and far between you got a bit I still think the one on meet your future wife. Yeah I like all the steps that kyle moody. Yeah. Oh my god. Those are great

[00:35:41] So chae wolfberg wrote a romance novel that she described as michael shay colin jost fan fiction For those of you who don't watch snl michael shay and collin jost are the two current weekend update hosts

[00:35:54] And they often play off each other. There's a little bit of banter back and forth They'll say oh I switched jokes and so all the racist jokes go to collin and all that Yeah, that was that was a big fan of like my milky white co-workers So

[00:36:12] Again this according to that cracked article earlier this week snl twitter again There's an snl twitter Anyway caught wind of a of a self-published romance novel that the young writer wolfberg had described as a michael shay colin jost fan fiction

[00:36:26] In one of two viral tiktoks. However, as you can plainly see on the cover of the book Which is called late night love Head writer and weekend update co-anchor michael shay Is replaced by a woman? Who looks ever so slightly like wolfberg herself

[00:36:49] So she wrote michael shay colin jost fan fiction and then wrote michael shay out of it and replaced michael shay with herself that's The I kind of feel like if this isn't like like incredibly erotic. It's a waste

[00:37:04] Yeah, and and she even says I I spent four years writing this and i'm finally getting it published Yeah, four years. Yes my god Just every day you're sitting down at the computer Ramming your head against chapter four of the

[00:37:23] Fucking like colin jost fuck scene. You're like what's another name for quivering? So the description of the book is as follows I'm gonna try to get through this because it's just so fucking absurd

[00:37:40] Emily beckerman has the dream job as a writer on live from new york a world famous sketch comedy show That's almost worse than the one that erin sorgen came up with for studio 60 on the sunset strip

[00:37:53] But anyway, but what she really wants is to write for the legendary weekend update segment Okay. Now I know for a fact that weekend update is copyrighted lauren michaels is gonna fucking sue her into oblivion

[00:38:06] When it becomes clear that the current hosts will never give her that chance Emily takes matters into her own hands and replaces one of their jokes with her own She never expected that her moment of revenge would cause an on-air meltdown that got the show's head writer fired

[00:38:22] Emily is even more surprised to learn that she's going to be his replacement Because live from new york is dangerously close to being canceled Which again really feels like it is not a good show by the way if you've never seen it studio 60 on the sunset strip was

[00:38:39] Aaron sorgen trying to do sports night but with snl Oh my god, and it fails on every level with the exception of the fact that a it has bradley whitford in it and b

[00:38:49] Matthew perry is also just fighting for his life to do a good performance in this show. Oh, hell yeah, sarah paul I loved the newsroom. So okay. Well sarah paulson is also in it

[00:39:00] So, I mean like it's it's got an interesting cast dl hughley for whatever reason okay Like that's not the worst thing i've ever heard except the part that like it's headed by sorgen. It's almost good

[00:39:10] Even john goodman shows up in an episode. It's again. It's like it comes so close and it just fucking Shits the bed every time Post sports night sorgen trying to get his shit together and he just can't do it It wasn't till he hit newsroom

[00:39:25] So this was like between sports night newsroom and he's I don't know what to do that makes sense More from life from the uh, the late night love naturally after emily usurps

[00:39:34] Not michael shay and replaces him behind the desk of weekend update her relationship with quote chris galloway The other update host and head writer starts off as adversarial Before melting into white hot chemistry in wolfberg's world. Jost goes from swapping jokes to swapping saliva Yeah Yeah

[00:39:55] If there's no pegging Right, it's such a weird decision to do Uh this guy colin jose is he really that handsome? No, he deserves no Is it he doesn't seem? Like crazy handsome to me. I don't know Maybe i'm too picky. I don't think so

[00:40:16] But then again, I think like walton goggans is a handsome man So I don't really know like i've got weird, you know, I might not have my finger on the pulse, but I I don't know Goggins is attractive because he's confident and talented swagger. Yes. Yes

[00:40:31] He's got the swagger Colin jose seems kind of scared to be up there and he's been doing it for like 12 years. Yeah I uh weird big fan of SNL actors or bit players that was a ratio of sans was he the one that was always like laughing

[00:40:51] Like laughing like he accidentally like stepped on the dog's paw, right? Jimmy Fallon did that all the time. He broke I wonder how many people like work so fucking hard on those shows on those to make that production happen And then he just blows it

[00:41:05] Like a third into the into the bit would be terrible. Yeah Didn't he used to do the late night thing also? All right Weekend update Jimmy Fallon. No, I don't think so. God no, he wouldn't have made it through a single fucking joke that guy

[00:41:19] He can't yeah, i'm amazing. I'm amazing to do the tonight show Yeah, I I am too actually he just It's the face. I think I just he's got a smug face. I can't stand it He's another one of the SNL like lacrosse player looking cast members

[00:41:38] I love next time there is a leak an oil leak and the um In the gulf and you get the little cam Of the of the oil coming out, you know, like there's all that pressure. I would absolutely positively love the drop him

[00:41:53] Very so slowly watching become degloved By the pressure change On on the on the oil leak webcam. I think that would be really fucking cool. I would be really into that That'd be really fucking tight his like skin suit is just hanging by the fingertips

[00:42:11] Sort of like billowing Try and laugh your way through this now, mr. Chuckle fuck I went to universal studios in in 2020 right like the week before lockdown started At least like places like my work, you know, and one of the rides is a fucking

[00:42:28] Tonight show with jimmy fallon ride. Is it one of those ones where you get to have a gun? No, I was so disappointed that it did not have the gun silver dollar city

[00:42:38] Yeah, no, I I didn't get the sukshu I could do but it was it was one of those ones where it's not even really a ride It's just like they show you a video and you feel like you're moving because the video is so good Sure

[00:42:51] It's it's dog shit. It's terrible and you got to see his fucking face every minute or two I can't believe they ripped out. I can't believe they ripped out the back to the future ride for that It would just be so funny if the ride was like, okay

[00:43:03] You start out on the late night set and then jimmy goes to the bar For two days and then like has to show up back to the writer's room and you're out of ideas And lauren michaels is yelling at you. You need to go to alcoholics anonymous jimmy

[00:43:18] Jimmy you need to go You need to sober up jimmy jimmy. Can you get out of here for a minute? I need to talk to uh phil You smell like an old ash tray and that's a positive aspect to be discussed Oh

[00:43:36] So the worst part about this this late night love, what would you hit harder with your car jimmy phallon or the boston dynamics dog? God if I can get them both in the same place at the same time

[00:43:48] That would be my okay. So if I gotta choose, uh Devin do you have an answer for this jimmy phallon or the or the boston dynamics dog?

[00:43:56] Because I got nothing like I can't decide it's I they have I want to say like oh they can make more boston Dynamics dogs, but there's only one jimmy phallon, but yeah. Oh, yeah, that's a fair point

[00:44:07] Something I hadn't considered i'm going jimmy. Yeah, you gotta do it Yeah Because when you because if you choose to back over the boston dynamics dog, that's just kind of like a victory lap But backing over jimmy phallon

[00:44:21] Um is just making sure you're getting the job done, right? Also the super intelligence that's going to like retrospectively judge how we treated technology Is going to get like pissed that you hit the robot dog So like he's keeping score sort of like an old test

[00:44:38] Oh the second they the second day make like an android with like Testicles that have like have like feedback nodes in them I'm totally going to town with that thing on that thing with a fucking broom handle

[00:44:52] Just beating shit out of the robot. This is way more mercy. Yeah, so it gets stupider from here The late night love book Commenters questioned wolfberg's decision a description of late night. Love is michael shake collins

[00:45:06] Just fan fiction given that the former weekend update anchor is absent and a woman resembling wolfberg is in his place The author explained in a follow-up I'm a straight white woman

[00:45:16] I really do not feel comfortable taking up space to be writing a book about a queer interracial relationship Then why thanks, thanks honey, thanks for being so thoughtful about about that we're really

[00:45:31] The thing that people were really taking umbrage with this whole thing not the fact that it's really fucking weird, right? Of all the shit that was probably the least of the concern But yeah that she was writing across difference is not a really big deal

[00:45:48] So it's like someone needs to be reading their bell hooks. Uh-huh I did a little research Um Of our own the premier site for Let's just say slash fiction. That's the best way I can put it has 147 different works listed under weekend update

[00:46:13] Now a good chunk of them have seth meyers As the the weekend update host that they're writing about so some of these are clearly older I wouldn't want to fuck seth meyers. He seems like a guy that'd be asking if he's doing a good job too much

[00:46:26] Are we having fun? Yeah Are you getting tired? This is is your leg falling asleep I can move oh here we go, uh, tina and amy's first time now this one Oh boy amy polar Tina faye, okay, don't send me that link or anything like but you know

[00:46:46] The tags are are great friends to lovers friends with benefits romantic relationship lesbian sex No lesbians die classic, uh oral sex vaginal sex sex toys cunnilingus analingus anal fingering anal play tongues vaginal fingering Kind of thought that was uh anyway, uh vibrators hotel sex motel sex jeans comedian

[00:47:10] actress Actors famous come coming ejaculate handjob handjobs ass play pubic hair bush smut Shameless smut gratuitous smut my first smut. So Who's the dude in this? If there's I know ejaculate. I I think they just mean like uh squirting. I don't know but uh, 2000 Oh, that should be

[00:47:32] 1867 words Oh my god, they got eight kudos for this one. Not a hit not a hit on a03 But yeah, boy you really want to get into this boy, you got howard hamlin lalo salamanca what

[00:47:45] Michael shea collin jose. Oh, okay. So apparently this is a collection of slam poetry There's a lot of uh, really smarty pants mark mcgrorall type analytical professors who are writing books about like Theories of literature in the age of amazon and they are all saying that like yeah

[00:48:12] The predominant mode of literary production in our society is like this It's like ebooks of smut that are like super high traffic. They're not wrong either A03 has existed well before amazon's uh self publishing

[00:48:27] But yeah, I mean it's it's essentially you're you're basically taking your a03 fanfics and put in the book form I mean, that's really what's happening. Yeah, colin hoover in particular is just she would have been a big hit on a03 is all i'm saying

[00:48:41] Especially with the right tags You're listening to 48 minutes of dogs barking the podcast and now it's time for the crypto scam of the week It's crypto scam of the week time Devin brian, I bring you crypto scam Oh the week

[00:48:58] Well, first of all, debin are you familiar with a lot of these uh, cryptocurrency terms and and whatnots? Are you are you a crypto guy? Oh, i'm i'm up on the lingo because like the world is online is uninterpretable unless you like know

[00:49:16] Somebody's trying to get you to they're trying to get money out of you somehow I'm amazed that you guys can keep up with how many Absolutely bizarre names for all this shit there are well you'd be surprised There's so many that I have to go

[00:49:31] Uh, do I want to do this one this one or this well, like sometimes there's like three in a week Yeah, it's just the constant con happening in the background is it's truly crazy It's fucking in the it's fucking saying in the amount of money

[00:49:47] That falls through the cracks that gets scammed out Right. I can probably go on and talk for quite a while just about all the different ways you can launch a token And Make money ripping people off or how they do it

[00:50:01] It's really interesting to me because in a lot of ways it's like web point One or web 1.0 Like kind of the wild west of the internet like very like 90s like almost like pre aol like netscape

[00:50:14] Right like without any of the creativity or like thoughtfulness or or the connectivity. It's just kind of It's like the worst of everything so you've got like the not naval gazey libertarian stuff that was early internet and then you have it combined with like

[00:50:31] Uh, what if I just ripped people off? What if I just have been since well, this is the free market and we're all consenting adults, right? So it's okay that I made a couple hundred gram like ripping people off with like

[00:50:42] I don't know a elon musk nutsac token or something I don't know what you're saying It is like incredible because isn't it like really hard to actually take like one bitcoin and turn it into like whatever it is a hundred dollars and like what way

[00:50:59] Like don't you have to get it like approved through a passport? And then you have to like have a wallet key and like to get one bitcoin to change into

[00:51:09] A us dollar. Isn't that like really kind of difficult? It is isn't 10 years ago if you're trying like cash out Into fiat you'd have to use like a a sex cex centralized exchange

[00:51:22] And back then I mean 10 years ago. I only think you had coinbase or binance. I think you had like mount grocks Yeah, mount gox. Yeah gox. Um the magic the gathering online exchange by the way yeah so

[00:51:37] It's a lot easier. Um, there's a lot of like they call it on ramping and off ramping as far as like getting your Fiat in out of crypto So it's not as tea as it used to be the only issue that some people may have is that um

[00:51:54] You're giving up a lot of your privacy and there are a lot of people that I do I don't think uh are barking up the wrong tree when they value Privacy in their online activities as far as like monetary transactions. I don't

[00:52:08] Think every single one of those should be out there Uh to be overly scrutinized that being said people are going from the people I just don't want all my shit out there to i'm trying to commit uh hundreds of thousands of dollars a tax rod

[00:52:21] Right. I don't want the government to know what i'm doing for legal reasons. Yes Well case in point here courtesy of crypto briefing.com DeFi protocol uu lend falls victim to 19.3 million dollar exploit so uh defi Decentralized finance uu lend So apparently this protocol was founded by a

[00:52:52] Quadriga cx co-founder michael sifu patron has also fallen victim to an exploit resulting in the loss of 19.3 million. This isn't the first time the patron has had Problems let's say uh, he previously faced controversy when quadriga cx collapsed and an address linked to him

[00:53:13] transferred five point five million with of ether To tornado cash about two years ago. So On chain data compiled by arkham intelligence reveals that a single wallet managed to siphon a collection of tokens including wrapped ether

[00:53:31] Wrapped bitcoin and stable coins before trading the majority of the stolen funds on the decentralized exchange Uniswap the exact method remains unclear at this time Uu lend I can't Jesus christ, uu lend integrates lending markets investment strategies and asset management vaults

[00:53:51] It allows users to lend and borrow digital assets participate in investment strategies and manage their assets through non-custodial means Oh, it offered its users this again according to some promotional material high yield opportunities

[00:54:05] And robust asset management features now all of that might sound great, but it's utter bullshit The protocol generates revenue by distributing fees to users Primarily benefiting liquidity providers also known as lp stakers with a portion allocated for x uwu staking system buybacks Now

[00:54:28] If all of this sounds like gibberish to you, that's okay Two years ago. It sounded like gibberish to me and now I understand it in a way that I probably Regret, but the prince doing good things to your brain every week and uh

[00:54:45] Every single week we sit here and we we sit in front of the schizophrenia beam. Yeah It's beamed directly into my prefrontal. Yeah, just fucking me up. So yeah essentially They fucked up somewhere somehow And they got got for

[00:55:02] 19 million dollars. That's that's so much money for the anime. I'm I the animu The guy the wow have you ever been hit with the yowie pal and been exploited for 19 million dollars I can't say that I have no It does seem like when I was reading this

[00:55:23] Like prep it was just like oh I guess this is just like If you're a programmer and you get really into this the thing to do is just to figure out how to like Siphon a bucket of money out of the money stream. That's essentially what they did

[00:55:36] Yeah, I mean the attacker hit three transactions in six minutes got about 20 mil like just They got them quick and fast and then it got into tornado cash

[00:55:47] Which is a mixer which basically means that the funds are distributed and kind of I don't it's kind of like money laundering but digital At least as far as I understand it. Yeah, it's basically so you would say like you need to

[00:56:01] In the digital footprint on say like one ether for whatever reason and so you would go to a mixer like um houdini or uh tornado cash and What you would basically do this is my understanding. I've never used it

[00:56:15] This is from having looked at the website a couple times and reading a couple articles is it basically you would trade You would put that into the mixer which would kind of create like a block volume of transactions

[00:56:27] and so that one ether would get mixed with like say 20 ether and That could be Man, it's kind of hard. I'm not a big math finance guy, right? Basically, it's basically it's like money laundering because it's really hard on the other end of tornado cash

[00:56:44] Unless you know exactly what you're looking for To see where that one ether or whatever crypto that's being put through the mixer where it went Some people like coffeezilla and uh, zacxbt have a good eye for for reading the ledgers and kind of sussing out likelihood of where

[00:57:03] Certain funds go once they enter and exit a mixer but um most people aren't going to have the patience or the The know-how to really read that stuff it's kind of like reading the fucking screen from the matrix sometimes That would be a cool talent to have though

[00:57:21] Oh, yeah, and the guys who do it boy coffeezilla zacxbt a couple other ones I can't remember their names of those two immediately come to mind. They're the ones who I follow a lot because

[00:57:32] They'll be like, oh, yeah this uh, these stolen funds wound up over here and here's the guy who did it. Yeah Damn that's a true detective work of our age. Yes, absolutely. Hey boy All right guys, you ready to take it back 20 years

[00:57:46] All right, man. Absolutely. So jason had a full head of hair I don't know. I don't know if I still had at that point Anyway, yes our main story this week is a very st. Louis centric story

[00:57:58] Which is why we got our good friend devin here to show up stlpunk.com Stlpunk.com Now brian devin were you guys on stlpunk.com? I was not I um missed this but I I recognized this format of like posting that looked like shit and had lots of

[00:58:19] You know a a.m integrated Stuff I was on there. Absolutely. Yeah sad sad teenager It is wild for me looking back like I spent a little bit of time on the way back machine Just like weird old angry feelings

[00:58:37] Yeah, like uh, I'm looking at like the top bands and being like oh not you know things I don't really have any feeling about like not waving but drowning Novella like all these like like, you know white belt bands that were very popular in st

[00:58:49] Louis and then there was a band name that was neo geo Oh, yeah, right and I just had like I was just like I had I got angry And like why I'm like i'm like looking at their band page

[00:59:03] I'm like trying to figure out I used to hate these motherfuckers But why i'm very certain that like it had probably be like some girl I fancied or I had like dated was like

[00:59:14] With one of those guys and their band probably on top of that was probably like the band sucked Which was like Right cherry on top was like like oh cool

[00:59:25] Like that guy is like dating someone that like I used to date and his band is miserable and awful But it is to me This very interesting Bit of time this proto social network. Yeah, that was hyper local and you kind of see all of these things

[00:59:43] That they're kind of clever And definitely forward thinking and how they set up certain things for the structured website and how you could Communicate with people how you have signifiers like if you if you think you should bomb iraq You can have that in your profile

[00:59:59] If no war you can have a bush sucks one and then like, you know gun And then like taco and then bomb iraq And so like that's sort of a rich text

[01:00:13] Something i've always felt with stl punk looking back is there were so many ideas that weren't terrible That it actually probably could have been something if it weren't run by a bunch of st. Louis ass motherfuckers. Yeah

[01:00:25] Unfortunately, that is that is the case so this from the now defunct riverfront times Daniel hill in 2012 writing this before pinterest google plus facebook myspace friendster There was stlpunk.com founded and operated by local artist slash punk jerome gainer

[01:00:42] And before stl punk ever resembled anything close to those sites. It was a hub for st. Louis punk bands To anonymously shit talk each other in these early days

[01:00:53] Thereabouts 1998 one would merely sign their band up and then have a little white page with a message board requiring no login It was simple and goofy and fun and an incredible resource for finding out about local punk bands and shows

[01:01:07] It wasn't until the introduction of personal profiles that things got out of hand and by out of hand I mean the site was the most hilarious destination on the internet. Oh, absolutely now daniel hill It should be mentioned was in a thrash band called cross examination

[01:01:25] after this cross exam didn't come out until after the heyday of stl punk, but he definitely Did his research and knows his bona fides at least in this particular article. Yeah Boy, it says here at its peak 2005 stl punk had 80,000 registered users And on any given day

[01:01:47] You could check the punk's online column on the front page and note that you were currently in the company of some 500 or so of your presently online coke patriot band pages still existed now in souped up form with mp3

[01:02:01] And image hosting but truly the personal profiles had taken over Users were no longer exclusively punks and were no longer exclusively from st. Louis That's the part that really bothered me But yeah If you use the site as intended if you were a punk in st

[01:02:18] Louis, it was definitely a time to be online I can't even remember what my username was but I talked a lot of shit online At the time I think I was mostly on myspace I was mostly on a poetry website called scribble.new

[01:02:35] Scribble was like, oh yeah, you can host your poetry here that's just tumblr. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, it was proto tumblr and uh that and My shitty attempt at a website Via x site but yeah stl punk functioned a lot like what myspace would

[01:02:54] Become I guess in a way Uh, but boy Imagine imagine if they just had a little bit of vc money I know the post where they're talking about upgrading the server space. I I was reading that and just being like Oh, yeah

[01:03:09] They're saying like it's going to go so much faster and just be amazing and i'm thinking like It's probably just like a drop in the bucket of like an increase. Oh, yeah 80,000 users Yeah, like yeah, you're you're you're gonna be really Just hosed here It is wild

[01:03:29] it's like a neanderthal between like or it's like a a missing link between like aim and myspace as they like We're trying to do the same thing. So i'm pulling up here the who does this That's the link i'm going to go to and of course, yeah earlier

[01:03:47] I'd sent jason a front page link and It was it was a great resource because you could add concert calendar a front page news deal But the date I just randomly selected was um, the date of When the right stripes played fox theater in 2006

[01:04:06] And I was at that show and I'm like, this is really weird Uh, not only was that like a A really good show, uh, but the greenhorns opened and they were not very good. Oh no, and I kind of I've

[01:04:19] I've seen the greenhorns since and i was like no, I was right. I was right I wasn't just like a really bitter like 20 year old like no I was correct. I was absolutely positively correct. They were not good Yeah, it was this really kind of interesting resource

[01:04:34] I knew people that made friends on stl punk I most certainly used it to try to meet weird girls with asymmetrical haircuts that wanted to go Uh see movies with me or something like that. I got true romance true romance, man

[01:04:48] I was hustling I was hustling really hard to disappoint women Pretty much my whole entire life like just really like hey I'm not gonna ruin your credit or ask to borrow money from you But I will do everything else a terrible potential boyfriend or suitor may do

[01:05:04] And a lot of women in st. Louis are like, yeah, let's do this I mean I also hate going to pasta house. It's for fucking posers That's right, I hate avril levigne and braces and fallout boy and growing up

[01:05:19] So this according to the uh, the y page from 2002 Why does someone say that? I don't know why I don't know why Page from 2002 Why does st. Louis punk page look like this? Yeah, by the way that's what it was called originally st

[01:05:40] Louis punk page not stl punk Well at first this is jeroam writing Well at first I kicked around a few design ideas that had like the arch on them and stuff Then I was like fuck that because some old st

[01:05:52] Louis dudes I know are always talking about how the city At the prouding of big st. Louis corporations You can be sure tore down all this cool shit downtown in order to put up the arch

[01:06:03] And they threw a bunch of poor people out of their houses, etc to make cleaner more tourist friendly downtown area Which isn't too punk. So I thought what's st. Louis really about?

[01:06:13] And the answer came to me old brick houses with flat roofs stone basement walls and the wood trim painted quote south side green I don't know. Okay That's what st. Louis really looks like not a big stupid chrome tourist trap

[01:06:28] For more information about the amazing decaying architecture of st. Louis go here and that led you to angel cities An angel city site called built st. Louis Which I think is still around in some way

[01:06:42] Yeah, I think so. I think i've read things on there. Yeah a bunch of architectural links and uh Vanished buildings demolitions things like that. So like okay, that's actually interesting. All right Very funny to walk, uh us through the like

[01:06:58] graphic design thought process of every single person who's ever dealt with st. Louis of like Well when I think st. Louis, I think of that arch But wait a minute everybody's done that the arch sucks. Yeah So there was a great tumbler that was

[01:07:17] Created a couple years back called fuck. Yeah stlpunk.tumblr.com Stlpunk.tumblr.com and they have pretty much a a best of here. Let me look through here This is the one that I think I posted here Someone's personal page. They're from fenton

[01:07:33] aka f town I go to limberg high school class of 2005 What's up? My name is chris. I play baseball just saying hello. Hey to all friends at limberg all caps I'm sorry to all the liberals out there

[01:07:51] Oh, wait, no, i'm not it's really gotta suck to be a liberal right now doesn't it and again this is This is 2004 2004 Well, I would know because i'm an intelligent conservative joined by this election 286 to 252 not even close and he won by close to four million votes. Wow

[01:08:13] Surprise he didn't call bush back after he conceded and said he hadn't lost yet just like gore did All caps proud to be a republican The democrats are screwed for years gotta suck to be one of them right now. Oh, I mean always

[01:08:31] Us republicans gain seats in the house slash senate and retain the presidency carries the senate minority leader He's got power let me tell you and edwards is out of a job dashal lost his seat Aw, too fucking bad And yeah, 11 states have already banned gay marriage. It's sick

[01:08:49] Yeah, who cares what other people feel it's against the religion of the majority of the country How the hell are they gonna keep that could help society by not being able to reproduce? And abortion that's just wrong. Why the hell would you want to be a baby killer?

[01:09:06] Don't even give women the right to choose shit If they don't want the baby tell their ass not to have sex omg liberals are not very intelligent I'm sorry. Wait again. No, i'm not bush slash cheney Yeah, um You got my ass there uh something

[01:09:29] Something that really kind of fucked with me was that when I was like looking around on a wayback machine I would be at the front page and and be like, oh the people they're online like whatever that was captured

[01:09:37] Yeah, and more often than not I ended up being someone with really weird Conservative politics. Yes being like super fucking proud about it and but I mean this is st Louis. Yeah 20 years ago I've I've kind of lamented that like

[01:09:52] It felt really weird being someone that like read like the situation as zingite bore And like disinformation and all this stuff in the midwest in the early aughts and kind of feeling it took uh

[01:10:08] Up until like five years ago way too fucking long. I catch up like it was really weird to be like Yeah, maybe cops are like for people to kind of just like tell me like I don't trust cops and you're like, huh? You know, I mean that's right

[01:10:20] I knew this when uh, I was feeling uh pre-algebra in in high school And you're a growing ass adult with like your own house And uh, but I found this one I sent it to jason Oh user, uh gutter horror gutter horror. Oh god

[01:10:37] Yeah, and they were uh in two bands called anti at And which covers the arts? Yes, and there was um 12 reasons there the main thing in their profile is 12 reasons why gays shouldn't be able to marry oh no, and reason one is

[01:10:57] Natural much like eyeglasses polyester and birth control Number two heterosexual marriages are valid because they produce Children and for all couples and old people can't legally get married because the world needs more children Three obviously gay parents will raise gay children straight parents only raise straight children

[01:11:13] Uh, just like just I think someone trying to be clever But doesn't know how But the kicker Yeah, is it another profile? I guess it was like a link a hot link to something The blue text is the the domain

[01:11:29] These arms are snakes.com is for sale to purchase called by domains.com. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, so all of this and they're like, yeah, but uh, uh, these arms are snakes is a fucking sick band I like these arms or snakes but I get yeah

[01:11:42] But also at the very very very bottom of that same profile the stupid box Did you catch this weezer underscore fan 04? soul skater and Brittany, yeah She did say she was going to uh plan of attack she's gonna go see a small town tragedy

[01:12:06] At the midwest music pit in wetsville. Okay There so there's two bands on the on her uh, their shows that i'm going to That include people i've worked with no siren. Aura was was With a guitar center and shall we dance was also some people

[01:12:26] I worked with he was actually in my department. Oh man. I worked with him Yeah Here's one of my favorites from the fuck ass clpunk.tumbler.com The username iheart come This is 2006 my name is hillary aka justin's watermelon. I'm 17

[01:12:51] I play bass guitar. I heart music. My favorite band is avenged sevenfold. Hell. Yeah, dude Boy, I am taken. I am in love with him. His name is justin justin is my pineapple I am against abortion Kingdom hearts is like the best fucking video game ever

[01:13:09] I quite drinking as much for justin Oh boy, and then under she loves the accessories art boys xx one in particular Bubble gum bubbles emo and then under she hates anal Gross avril lavigne backstabbers bad hygiene braces and so forth. Uh, just oh boy come

[01:13:34] From kansas city, missouri. Let's see. It looks like they're a little little signifiers at the top We've got beer the misfits logo. It looks like a bass guitar Art. Yep. Yeah a palette a photo Camera computer gun brain brain of water

[01:13:56] Then i'm guessing like that's checkers that's ska right hardcore Pikachu pokemon. Yeah, it's pikachu. Yeah, it's pokemon. Okay, and then um jail Yeah, did you guys not pay attention when she was talking about justin justin Fuck man, I was thinking about how anal is gross bro Yeah, yeah

[01:14:23] This was mostly a list that was directed at justin it seems to be yeah. Hey justin don't stick it in there buddy Don't do it. Consent is cool. Okay, I found on facebook. There is a group called stl punk memories

[01:14:38] And so because I am a man of my word. I will go ahead and and look through some of these comments I did a post there. Hey, you know, i'm doing a podcast etc

[01:14:47] So I asked them, you know, what are your favorite funny slash weird stories 67 comments. You got a lot That's the best response i've had to any post i've ever made so that's wild A gentleman named wan says well, I used to troll christian punk bands

[01:15:04] And that somehow spiraled so far out of control that at one point local church youth groups had somehow Contacted a famous Theologian to debate me on my page That was weird. I asked him. Hey, do you know what the do you know what the theologian was?

[01:15:20] He said no Sarah k says I remember one time I went to see a band called the paper chase At this venue called something like the st louis performance art center and it was legit a dude's house

[01:15:31] He was walking around with no shoes on eating chips while we stood in his living room Watching the bands with no stage. I want to say this was 2006 That was obviously the limp arts limp arts center. Yeah, that's exactly what I wanted to show

[01:15:46] And then one guy uh wan for the previously mentioned one. I played that show No Oh god limp arts center Oh, I know I know I remember one time being at limp arts center for a show and that guy

[01:16:01] I'm guessing devin you probably never went to a show there but was literally a guy's house that had he and he had non-profit Like organization attached to it. I think I heard about this. Yeah But I remember one time Being there for a show

[01:16:17] I got like a phone call from someone and I was like, I should probably take this and I just like went outside and listened To a voicemail And that guy and I probably was like 19 or 20 and that dude came out and chewed me out for about five

[01:16:30] About like about like, you know, I can't you know, man Like this is a really cool thing we got going on here And i'm really tired you kids coming out here from the county and being disrespectful

[01:16:38] There's all these people out here. They're trying to buy up this street buy up this neighborhood This is it's in benton park which was and is still one of the hottest like I guess neighborhoods if you're cool I was gonna say yeah Yeah

[01:16:50] The whole entire time he's just like chewing me out and i'm looking over his shoulder And seeing like four people I know in a honda civic like fucking hot boxing with like a foiling

[01:17:00] And i'm like listen dude, like I was just like uh coming out here so I could listen to a voicemail Uh from a family member

[01:17:08] I don't think i'm really gonna fuck your shit up as much as I just straight up just narked on like as the four people Over there smoking weed and that fucking civic

[01:17:17] And he just like his mouth just dropped. I'm like, um, i'm just i'm not causing any trouble but like that could be trouble You know, there'd be times we go because he would cook like a band meal, right like people

[01:17:33] Like people around my age a little bit younger They were like having they came from like bad backgrounds and stuff and ended up like living there for a little bit So it was like kind of weird seeing people live with this old weird guy

[01:17:45] Yeah, there i've heard rumors about him in in the direction that you're you're assuming Um, I can't really speak any more than that. But um, I remember him one time like freaking out with some guy for eating the band meal

[01:17:57] It was like it was just like it was just like pasta that was just like ragu Mixed in a giant bowl of noodles

[01:18:06] And he was like freaking out on this dude and the guy just like looked at him. He's like i'm i'm in the band from san antonio Like this is he's like this is my food like this is my band meal This is made for me

[01:18:26] Yeah, this garbage that i'm eating is this is my garbage let's see here geez Uh a lot of people talking about a band called losers luck. Oh losers luck Yeah, probably one of the hardest bands

[01:18:39] Hardest working bands in st. Louis at the time as far as self-promotion. I never saw them play I always saw their fucking flyers always heard people talk about them damn but there's i'm already going through this like looking

[01:18:50] Through this uh this post here and seeing two or three mentions of losers luck Yeah, but the the thing that killed me was someone talking about being a hoho show

[01:18:58] Which is an annual holiday show that the point runs one of our our alternative radio station folks. It's very cool Is it is it very cool? Yes, it is. It's super cool. It's like the chive but local

[01:19:13] It's the guys who work at the radio station's fucking band. I don't want to hear this shit anyway, so uh But someone commenting about being at a hoho show and someone like coming going through the crowd asking for people to listen to

[01:19:25] Uh something on a disc man, and of course it ended up being losers luck They are the hardest working marketers, yeah Let's see here. Uh shay writes I graduated from a small talent in illinois and they blocked the url from our web browser

[01:19:42] So I just used the full address to access my page My user id was in there in their user i'll never forget that also met my first boyfriend On stl punk. Hmm good for them had to put the cat down

[01:19:57] We got together a couple years ago. What a wild ride that website was for me lol Jerry here writing I created the taken symbol Okay, so jerry's responsible for the ball and chain

[01:20:10] I reached out to jerome and said I wasn't a big fan of the jail cell graphic he used And he said he agreed and it wasn't his favorite but he couldn't think of another way

[01:20:20] So I suggested a ball and chain so he said if I could fit one into a 16 by 16 box He'd use it that thing was created in mspaint. Oh god. I love it

[01:20:32] It certainly looks like it. Oh a lot of those icons absolutely are completely just like the pikachu one Especially I could barely tell what it was on a 16 by 9, you know Ratio these days, but i'm sure at that time it was like, oh, yeah

[01:20:48] This is clearly pikachu a couple of guys going through saying like rip to the same thing. That was music scene That's not the truth. It's just that you got old

[01:20:56] I mean honestly tyler bringing up losers luck. Mostly. I wondered how losers luck was so popular answer relentless promotion Amber writes I met my spouse on stl punk He had an interesting slash weird username that popped up on my sidebar

[01:21:12] So I messaged him I know so I messaged him to ask what the story was We ended up chatting and met a few weeks later been together for 18 years and have three kids Holy shit. Um

[01:21:26] And the username in question the username in question, by the way hobo in my trunk Just a little bit so I went my old went into my old email address Oh, no, barely use anymore and typed in stl punk

[01:21:45] And apparently I registered for stl punk on the 26th of february in 2005 Okay, nice Or at least it was for like a band verification because me and a couple friends were always trying to get a band together

[01:21:57] But uh, I wanted to play music. They just wanted to like crush beers and chase trim. Why can't you do both? That's exactly that's what I did for 12 years Uh, not the chasing trim i'm happily married man, but the crushing beers are this yeah

[01:22:12] These were guys that all had like nicknames that were nonsensical like, you know Juice box juice box was juice box in a band. Oh, yeah juice box was a couple He was a bank called a totally gay cop. Hell. Yeah Damn what a name

[01:22:29] I've known juice box forever. He's like a I don't want to blow up his face, but too much But like he's like a lawyer now hell yeah rules like oh, yeah One of the gnarliest guys i've ever known my whole entire life

[01:22:40] Like guy his shit together and like i'm just gonna like get my law degree This guy dan that I know that's still active in punk bands is a fucking real estate guy. Yeah. Yeah It's fucking crazy. It's fucking crazy. But uh

[01:22:53] Juice box was this band called totally gay cop and I saw them play at bonerville Uh with ex cult because juice box is really good friends with the singer The funny thing is that everyone in the hardcore scene

[01:23:08] Had stories about the guy from ex cult when he was like a fucking hardcore kid umbros Dropped off like, you know By his mom or something like everyone had stories and people were like mad that he was like in a band

[01:23:20] That was getting written about in pitchfork like it was some sellout but like That first ex cult record that was post that was produced by tyson gull is fucking top notch It deserved every bit of good ink it got but other dudes at ex cult

[01:23:33] I don't think we're so used to like weird punk shit Because yeah box decided to perform. I think just in his like tighty-whities like no socks And and like he was always like in good shape

[01:23:47] So it's just like a very like very like almost a guy with like a low-key adonis body In tighty-whities like in a nasty south side basement and I remember one of the dudes in ex cult after the show talking to each other and be like

[01:24:01] Is that guy that you know, we're the singer from ex cult. I forget his name off top my head It was really weird right? He was in his underwear, huh?

[01:24:08] Like they're just I don't know like we're gonna stay at the guy's place after the show. I don't I don't know about that Will he put pants on after yeah, it's just um

[01:24:21] It was fucking I have a fucking crazy time that was but yeah juice box was doing stuff like all these It was this this way of finding out what was going on st. Louis

[01:24:33] During a time when it was very hard to feel like there was any community here because I want to say probably from about like 2006 to like 2010 It was a shitty place to live if you were like interested in the world if you're curious about anything other than

[01:24:50] St. Louis is a very rough place to be and stl punk was one of the few ways that kind of Figure out what was going on meet other people and in a town that's very segregated then and now and then um, joram sold it to john mancuso

[01:25:07] For a parent. I remember the post about this being something along the lines of the amount He bought for could have bought a nice used car and In 2006 that's when mancuso bought it and mancuso is kind of an infamous st. Louis promoter people have lots of

[01:25:26] Complicated feelings. Yeah. Yeah, he ran a venue called the mad magician Oh boy used to be a venue that people really loved called a b's Yeah, um, and the mad magician was out long for this world

[01:25:40] When he took it over he had at least some vision of like, you know we should like have like some articles and stuff and and Send people to shows and make photos like he kind of saw a couple steps ahead

[01:25:51] And I did email him in 2006 on uh christmas eve Okay, and I wrote to him about like uh greetings I'm interested in the writer and photographer position you have offered at your website stl punk

[01:26:07] I really wanted to be an english major. I was still like fucking around. Let's go get her attitude Let's go get her attitude I've had a real interest in music since I was a child and find it to be one of the highest forms of human expression

[01:26:18] My photography can be viewed here, which I think is probably linked to my flickr page I attached a work that I did a few months ago related to punk history

[01:26:26] It deals with punk in the context of the situation is international a political art collective in paris during the 1960s There are many Lines either way is a unique facet of punk that is often overlooked

[01:26:40] I find this piece to be an example of my writing analytical or otherwise So I ask you to take a look at this entry into the punk history contrast of the bid as a writer And he said like, you know

[01:26:51] I of course my one of my favorite things is uh sending an email that's supposed to have an attachment and not having the attachment Oh, yeah classic responded. Uh the same day brian

[01:27:00] Can you send me the essay in a word document so I can read it also when we are ready to start the contest I'm going to post a submission page I'd like to read yours whenever you get a chance to send it over in the word doc

[01:27:09] John bancuso from mancuso productions llc with his cell phone number, which maybe i'll prank call right now So hey john, uh is your uh, is your refrigerator running? Yeah Hey, uh my band you uh, we're still waiting for that hot and ray pizza you owe us Um

[01:27:31] 16 years too late there Uh, but then I just like he never I sent him the article and he never responded You could tell that dick. Yeah. Well, I mean I was used to rejection

[01:27:42] I don't think some guy in the midwest in 2006 wanted to read a piece about anything That thoughtful maybe I don't know the remotes are pretty tight

[01:27:52] Those guys had some haircuts and uh, if you really think about the sex pistols were like the first fucking uh, like boy band You know There was an event created by scl punk

[01:28:06] That was a bunch of bands at the creepy crawl the creep call. They now defunct punk menu, right? But it's so bad that bands refused to play st. Louis for many years because of it but the headliner was also Ron jeremy nice

[01:28:22] I haven't seen him in anything in a while. He looks like shit man. Yeah He looks like he looks like a guy I see in my neighborhood riding a bike around because he lost his license from duis Yeah Yeah

[01:28:34] What yeah, he's been in prison since 2020. Oh, what did he go to jail for being a terrible creep? Who could have seen this coming essentially he was accused of sexual assault, uh, that's that's essentially He was diagnosed with dementia

[01:28:53] Imagine getting dementia having a life like his and you can't remember all that fucking pipe you laid. I know i'm telling you He's just he's just like he's just watching old reruns of jeopardy. Yeah

[01:29:05] He was such a weird character for like late night commercials too because he would be like part of the girls gone wild thing And so you just get like the timpani drums And then like all of these coeds with their like blurred out partying. Oh my god

[01:29:21] And then there was ron jeremy there It was just like an inside joke of the adult world like yeah that guy he fucks. Yeah There's one phrase from the girls gone wild commercials that haunts me

[01:29:35] And I feel like both of you might know what i'm talking about which is show us where babies feed Oh no Jesus christ, oh my god Yeah Oh boy intrusive it's a bad thing bad god. Yeah ron jeremy. I don't really have any personal anecdotes about

[01:29:57] I read his book. Have you read his book? No, I know he was an extra in uh, one of the ghostbusters Really? Yes. He was in the first ghostbusters movie

[01:30:06] He's in the background and so there's the scene where they're taking the ecto one to the dana barrett's apartment And they're all gonna save the day. It's actually the song save in the day And there's in the background just ron jeremy because he wasn't a porn star yet

[01:30:21] Well, maybe he'd done like one or two things but he wasn't like He wasn't known the way he is. Yeah, he was the hedgehog There he was in the background going wow and pointing up at the building. Yeah

[01:30:32] I will see that movie every once in a while. Like oh this guy's a porn star Well speaking of uh gross porn shit why not let's do it it's the shocked out jpeg segment Now the moment you've all been waiting for shock.jpg

[01:30:53] It's time are you ready? Mr. O'Shea, mr. O'Shea, uh if you're in your incognito window Please please Yeah This one is called Nut abuse everybody amazing. It's like someone's pulling their dog out of the trash can Yeah

[01:31:15] How dare you imply we're getting bored of making riley reid come exactly No one has ever made riley reid come but say that and And it's just it's it's two women holding a guy down he's in his tighty whiteys But they've got his nuts in a vice

[01:31:31] And they're dragging him around by them kicking him in the nuts. Yes I Play it again. I'm gonna play it. I'm gonna play it one more time because yeah It's all of 30 seconds long and he's screaming in hollering because of course

[01:31:44] He is he's a hairy fella to begin with and then yeah, they're just kicking him right in the Right in the breadbasket with the the pointy toe and then the knee the one that gets him is the knee That's when he falls down

[01:31:58] It's not just the knee. It's just how she smashes his Scrum against the his thigh. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true Because like the kick is just a kick I'm gonna tell you something like women who do fetish porn like this are the are the troops Yeah, that's right

[01:32:15] Because that's like the like if you want to get into the adult entertainment world You have to do shit like this at first Right. I have a friend who was a very successful adult porn star

[01:32:26] She had to start out doing some really weird things and one that always stuck out To me Because it was such a novelty like I I know someone that works in this world Yeah, and not treat her like like a novelty or anything was just like weird

[01:32:40] It's like if I had a friend that was like a pilot, right? I got a friend as a pilot license the pilot license for fucking And she did one where she was just like being the shit of some like tiny asian man

[01:32:53] Like being the absolute shit out of his dick Just going hog just getting in there and she's not a tall person herself, but she's taller than this guy Just beating the shot of this dude's dick like like it fucking owes her money

[01:33:08] And then there's like a hard cut And it's her with on her knees with her her her like one of her arms be above her head and back So her arm is exposed and he just busts a fat load our armpit Jesus Kind of am

[01:33:23] You know what? Yeah, whatever you gotta do to pay rent man. It was hard times 2008 it was hard times. Oh for like the more like normal Boy girl girl and girl stuff. She did the stuff that she told me that made the most money was like customs

[01:33:40] Because someone's going to pay you like 600 bucks for this thing That's very specific to like their kink or whatever And then you can sell it again for 20 bucks a pop right her many vids had stuff like her like I guess when her allergies were bad

[01:33:54] Like being a forest like in like a tight skirt like being snotty Like and the one that got me she told me she got paid a ridiculous amount of money to be naked And putting paper through a paper shredder. Yeah. Wow

[01:34:10] It's amazing that like you can become an adult Sex worker and then you just like seamlessly move into like, you know grad school art student Yeah, and the description was like I I have to get rid of these very important documents and shred them

[01:34:27] Before someone who shouldn't find like they have notes from your childhood on them It's a list of formative experiences and your fears Yeah Yeah, this is like in some respects this is like not too different than like

[01:34:43] Some stuff i've seen like at the sinkhole. Yeah, just like people were wearing more clothes Damn I realized a year ago today. I was the sinkhole Seeing like janet xmas and like dour sound and like some other great local performers

[01:34:59] But there was this band I can't remember the name of their Called really cool actually like ambient kind of noisy stuff But homeboy had a little like product turntable like you would use for photography that had like a motor So just keep rotating and he had a rock

[01:35:15] and then he put a piezo microphone Like a surface mount mic or surface mount pickup On the rock and like sampled it through a looper and i'm like this motherfucker sampled a goddamn pine cone Yeah like the fucking like the fucking uh

[01:35:32] Sad stories for children is that was the name of the sad pictures for children Yeah, yeah pictures for children going to the basement show and seeing some guy sample a pine cone like it was like man

[01:35:41] This is awesome. That's sick. I can't believe I enjoyed it so much and I was sober right That shit was tight. Yeah. Anyways, that guy's nuts got fucked up completely obliterated. Absolutely destroyed Whatever he did Uh wrong he deserved that punishment

[01:35:58] These kinds of things these these fetish videos Especially when they have like their own dedicated url always have this weird thing for me. We're like, okay Someone thought this was like shocking and weird In the intervening years, I don't feel like that's gotten

[01:36:14] As shocking, you know, I mean like some of the shock is kind of worn off Yeah, that one's just more like I mean like it's like a crushing video Yeah, it's like yep. This is the thing that people like I guess yeah Is this whatever I guess

[01:36:25] I guess it's all I guess being the shit of a dude's dick while you've got a rope around it It's just been completely normalized by our degenerate society We should return to the 1950s. Yeah, dude, I see that in american politics every day Hey, oh

[01:36:43] We got him joe biden. I remember what we did have to tie ropes around our nuts This country work We just had to go down to the five a dime and tell the soldier jerry Get me a usual

[01:37:00] God man, I bet if you showed that video to joe biden he would absolutely fucking Have a stroke. Yeah a pleasure. I was thinking he'd bust Just uh I'm gonna have I'm gonna have uh, i'm gonna have dr. Jill biden do that on me later. Yeah

[01:37:24] Oh man, i'm on so many He's doing the Dracula flows Joe Imagine joe biden saying, uh if I see a back that ain't been blown out I start to be I start to get a little bit unreasonable They must have forgot i'm him yeah

[01:37:51] I gotta ask you before we move on to the breath mint devin speaking of nuts getting kicked Oh, sorry. Uh, what would be funnier if donald trump won the election or joe biden won

[01:38:02] Will be funnier. Oh, that's like hard. This is frustrating because it seems like they're so evenly like Keeled of like it would be funny to see trump try to do the first act again and like Bring it all back

[01:38:18] But it would also be funny to watch like joe biden just decay into a dusty skeleton That like sits on a couch in the oval office That's true my theory Like my wild card idea Is that if trump got in office again?

[01:38:35] That he would go woke. Oh, that would be cool because for one he's you know, people already made the joke You know, he's got he convicted of 34 felonies, you know Folks have you heard of prison abolition? Right him going that way

[01:38:48] But I would like to think that like someone would like give him like some really good beef shawarma and all of a sudden He'd like muslims. Oh, yeah, like you know what I I had some beef kefta

[01:38:57] You know what maybe maybe maybe they're not so bad maybe you should let some of them in some of the ones that cook I think if anybody is nice to him

[01:39:07] He just is able so maybe that would be the funniest outcome is like trump gets in and is like the next fdr Like just because like someone showed him how to like jumpstart a car Yeah, are there somebody just points out like hey actually you can just like

[01:39:24] Close a corporation and kick the ceo into like a prison cell if you really want to So you can just like do that just use the military to do that And reorganize the economy folks. I'm gonna nationalize cisco foods Walmart folks, it's gonna be the federal walmart

[01:39:47] That'd be cool For many people that work at walmart that have to be on like food stamps and stuff Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, we'll be there's a verso book about that called the people's republic of walmart. It's like Yeah, we should just nationalize

[01:40:02] All of walmart and amazon because these are already basically infrastructure in my time in college A million years ago. I took a sociology class and our professor I think was hung over So she was like we're gonna do something. She's talking about corporatism

[01:40:19] Yeah, i'm being really soft touch about it. This is community college Can't can't freak everyone out too quick. Yeah, it was scary the host. Yeah That was a fucking weird ass class I got a couple stories i'll tell you about that real quick

[01:40:33] Because they all they all kind of they're like a nesting doll One bleeds into the other We watched a walmart the high cost of low prices Which talks about things about like the exploitation of workers in the third world and developing world

[01:40:49] exploitation of workers and you know being on food stamps the the burden on the these social systems and these uh, financial support systems because of walmart not paying their employees, you know a good wage and all that right and

[01:41:02] It's a it's not a very long documentary. It's pretty well argumented. I remember the lights coming back on and the professor asking the class like uh You know what you think and like the first person raised her hand was kind of like

[01:41:15] The dumbest person in the class for being like, I don't know why they gotta give a walmart sister hard time man I get cheap shit there And I can see the the professor wanting to cry. That's a dispiriting Fucking comment

[01:41:30] Yeah, and then another guy in the class who was cool Started giving that person a hard time being like did you not pay attention? Like other people are suffering for our shit man. Like you got and this is a dude that like wore vapes every day

[01:41:44] And I thought and this is like 2007 florescent, missouri Yeah, i'm at flow valley and this guy's like no one's wearing babes. I only know about babes because I post online And he's like sort of like yeah

[01:41:56] My auntie she works in fashion in new york and she brings back like samples and shit And that's how I got all these babes and I just be like, uh, can you get me some babes? He's like nah

[01:42:09] He's like but i'll show you the cool shit I get i'm like, all right, i'll take that He'd just be in the in the fucking classroom Like just talking about like I got me some bathing apes and I was like this dude rules

[01:42:20] And then he told us a story one time about how his uncle got aids because he used baby oil as uh lube Jesus christ So he used to say, uh when someone said something really stupid in that classroom

[01:42:32] He said, uh sounded like someone put a little bit of baby oil on it Uh, that's so cool And that does come back in my head like a little bit of baby oil we put a little bit baby oil on it To say you fucked up

[01:42:45] There was a lady in this classroom that found out that his birthday was coming up And this lady was older. She was not very attractive, but she's like oh y'all, uh, it's your birthday

[01:42:55] You know what? I uh, I used to be a dancer if you want me to come over and like, you know No, no with your boys and he was like, uh, no ma'am Damn

[01:43:05] This guy was a shit talker 24 7 he's like, i'm good. Thank you for the offering of your services But i'm gonna have to decline at this moment Fuck man community college was was fucking depressing Yeah, it sounds low valley. Jesus christ. Yeah, I remember taking an art class and

[01:43:25] Portfolio day was really rough because it's portfolio day at community college in the midwest And there was a young girl who had a dead raccoon in a pyrex box. No Alongside this this dead raccoon in a pyrex box were polaroid photos of the raccoon like

[01:43:45] And like no baby swing And like on the slide uh playground and like things like of that nature God damn it I was in the computer lab editing photos Didn't realize that she was in the room And started talking shit on her. Oh, no

[01:44:07] There was like a person next to me that kind of gave me a weird look like like don't do that i'm like i'm i'm such a Big shit talker back then and I just kept going

[01:44:17] And I made this this young lady cry because I didn't I didn't think it was cool that she brought roadkill And called it art because I was like I was like at least put in a hat it's a metaphor for dying

[01:44:30] It's uh, the economy stupid. That's the economy I went to uh, siu evertsville And my wife was an art student and so I took a few art classes You know I kind of fell at the electives and whatnot learned some screen printing did some cool stuff

[01:44:44] But I heard some horror stories from people doing Critique because she was in the sculpture program one lady didn't have A lot of I don't know Skill, I guess is the word you'd say she she was not very skilled sculptor. And so her sculpture was a mound of

[01:45:07] Meat she got from walmart arranged in the shape of a vulva Okay, so it was a meat pussy Yeah, and so for years In my head, I would just keep Singing to the tune of a steve miller band song big old meat vagina

[01:45:28] Don't carry me too far away. Yeah, uh not great not great She somehow passed that's the it's a metaphor about the economy About uh, 9-eleven. Yeah Yeah It's time for your mom's favorite part of the show it's time for the breath

[01:45:55] Well after that sort of thing we like to do something we like to call the breath mint That is where we uh, we showed you something gross. We talked about some gross shit. Well Let's talk about something that's pleasant fun enjoyable books movies music games

[01:46:08] Whatever it is that we feel like talking about That caught our attention in the past week so debon since you are our guest Oh my gosh, please let us know if there's something that uh caught your eye this week

[01:46:19] I had to like wreck my brain but like I have to plug that We had the stl punk feature My favorite stl band lobby boxer is going to come out with another album And so we're we're all deeply anticipating

[01:46:35] Their new output they put out some like pretty good music videos also recently Just a big fan Same here big fan love their records. Yeah, they got to like go on tour with fall of troy recently and that went really well So they're making some some big moves

[01:46:55] That's awesome. Yeah, I was so wrapped up in another band that I follow that I I must have missed it another one for for our musically inclined listeners. Yeah, johnny foreigner put out a Mixed tape kind of a preview of some stuff coming up on a new album

[01:47:13] Hope for the future the uh, the ep has a very long title that I cannot remember The name of the ep the sky and the sea were part of me or I was part of them So That is a

[01:47:27] Preview of their upcoming album how to be hopeful. Oh, yeah released midnight last night I missed it but alcopop records has that so does johnny foreigner bandcamp.com And that is a pay what you want. So take that as you will

[01:47:44] Brian, how about yourself? What you got going on there? Oh, I got quite a bit. All right, let's say my girlfriend Had surgery So her mom came visit for about seven days. She left Friday I kid you the fuck not we dropped her mom off at lambert

[01:48:02] And departures and loop around our rivals and pick up her friend from portland Like literally just like looped around i'm like damn, okay My first time meeting this guy he's been a good house guest. He's been really awesome to have around

[01:48:17] It's been nice to have a third person the kind of level out the exhaustion of like having like for me like Having lost my job Moving and then my partner has like a pretty extensive major surgery

[01:48:30] Yeah, it's a lot. It's nice to have someone else to be like interesting or Wanting to take out the trash this time Yeah But uh, he's like a really big movie buff and since my girlfriend's Not really moving around too much at this moment

[01:48:47] Like she's trying to get better about it because it's part of the healing process so he's just like watching a lot of movies and tv shows nice and Uh, he had like brought his apple tv and so we've watched a lot of movies but one

[01:49:01] That um, he really wanted us to see was a little movie directed by a japanese man named Sion sono Uh, it's a movie. He released in 2005 called strange circus which is about a young girl who walks in on Her parents having sex and her father decides to um

[01:49:28] Punish her sort of by hiding her in a cello case with a hole in it and making her watch Uh her parents have sex. Oh boy, and Eventually, it turns out also that her father is like the sexual deviant principal of her school. Oh

[01:49:45] and so her father, uh, eventually Exposes to the wife that like hey our daughter's been watching a screw And then tells like the wife like, you know, it's your turn in the in the case Uh, oh boy. He then rapes his daughter

[01:50:02] It's intense in a way that only like japanese movies from like 20 years ago can be it is, uh, very interesting and Surreal because there's a bit of a reliable narrator going on Eventually the daughter accidentally kills her mom The daughter ends up being in a wheelchair

[01:50:22] And it goes some really interesting places. I found this guy's work because we also watched uh, suicide club Which was another suicide club. I know that one. Yeah, which is a movie that could have

[01:50:35] Really been tightened up in the editing room. Yes, that is my same issue with this movie Is that it's a little self-indulgent in a way That is detrimental to the the product as a whole Though both are very interesting and both worth watching

[01:50:51] I liked suicide club a little bit more. I remember suicide club being when it first came out being very controversial Oh, yeah a movie that had no distribution in the united states

[01:51:01] Yet I remember like seeing something on nbc about like, you know violence and bad teen influences and stuff And here's like this really arty farty movie, uh from 2002 that's shot on a potato So those two that was like the first two nights and then we watched um

[01:51:19] Watched chicago Which I thought was interesting. I'm not a big musical guy, but I remember that being very big Among like the theater kids that I knew at that time when it was released. It's a successful movie Yeah

[01:51:32] I think um, it does a very good job portraying like the theatrical within the narrative and what's actually like realistic like what's actually happening Um, I mean it's got john c. Reilly being a dumbass which is you know, oh just chef's kiss. Yeah

[01:51:52] I enjoyed it as far as musicals go. Um had a lot of fun with that. I'm trying to think what else we watched West side story, which I never seen the original. Oh, okay. I felt like that movie kind of um Is a little long in the tooth

[01:52:07] Yeah, I think in some respects it hasn't aged well But I also do think that like the art behind it And the intent I think is very good. I think um, I really just found like a lot of scenes to be beautifully blocked and lit but also

[01:52:24] Like appreciate the type of filmmaking that was not too far removed from like a theatrical play or theatrical musical. Yeah Um, which is kind of also a lost art

[01:52:34] So it was it was fun. I really enjoyed that and some of the acting. Uh, we started the new season of the boys So yeah, um Cynical as ever it's like going to burger king no matter where you go. It's gonna be the same. Um

[01:52:49] You have to think too hard Right and but then but it's uh, not stupid. I don't think it's a dumb show It also has really great gore effects, which always feels um Like a thing where most modern tv shows if they choose to go gory kind of falter

[01:53:06] So so my feeling on the boys is twofold one Garth ennis can do no wrong. So And then uh, the tv version is uh is one of the guys behind supernatural Which itself was just very much popcorn television. You love to see it

[01:53:23] Kripke eric krippte. Uh, that was the guy Yeah, you just you can't take your eyes off it and even the The non-boys show they were involved with gen v which was the college escapades Of kind of the the b squad. I I heard mixed things about that

[01:53:39] And didn't have time for it. I heard cartoon one's okay if you really need more of that I'm just okay with the show. I've also I hate to say it So you see what you guys are i've heard a lot of bad things about the comics

[01:53:51] I've heard that the comics aren't very good. They have weird politics. Yeah. No, I think the show Does what the comics do but do it better? Yeah, just in most respects But yeah, we love to see the carl urban billy butcher

[01:54:05] Fuck anthony star who was kind of the breakout guy from the that series banshee. Yeah boy fucking homelander I can't I feel like um The boys is kind of like, uh watchmen without the subtext

[01:54:24] And yet there's still people out there that think uh that like homelander's the good guy he's badass. Yeah He's fucking sick, bro Which makes the sometimes makes this whole entire country feel like a uh, a failed project Yeah

[01:54:43] Well, we've always had bumpkins, you know, there's always a big population of the lumpen You know Well, we just don't have snake oil for them to kill themselves on anymore Like I can't filter this through the radiator of my malte and give someone mercury poisoning

[01:54:57] We tried with ivermectin, but it just didn't take just yeah, you know, just we try it You know what? They just weren't ready for that song That's right, but your grandkids are gonna love it. Yeah Yeah

[01:55:10] Remember people were taking the fucking like fish tank tablets. Oh god. Yeah hydrochloroquine or whatever the fuck Yeah, that was cool It's fucking tight What a cool time that was to be alive like you're like hoping that no one that you or knowing you you care about

[01:55:27] Or at least anyone that you have to be around doesn't get like this disease or the sickness that could kill you Really easily apparently yeah, and then there's other people out there just being like I want to eat the horse paste Yeah And uh and

[01:55:44] The ceo of tractor supply has to come out and be like i'm not a horse pace vendor Okay, you're not supposed to eat this stuff Yeah, don't don't eat it and everyone's like he's just suppressing the truth though. Yeah Fucking fauci got to him

[01:55:59] Ha ha ha ha he's uh, he's been compromised. Yep to a permanent end But the boys is a hoot the boys It's uh, it's quite all right waiting to start the second season of um

[01:56:14] Interview of the vampire we haven't gotten there yet. Yeah, is that out? I didn't really say it was started. It is out Yeah, okay I think we might be waiting for my girlfriend's friend to leave before we pick that back up. I got you nice

[01:56:27] Well while you think i've got one uh One of these nights when I came out from recording the show my wife had this show on on netflix

[01:56:35] And I was like, what the hell is this? She goes. Oh, it's a saying it said it was produced by margo. Robbie. It's pretty good Uh, there's a show called made Netflix had this on it was a limited series based on a semi-autobiographical novel

[01:56:51] And it is really fucking depressing. It's a Busted It's a show about a woman who's in an abusive relationship And she has a child with this guy who's abusing her and so she finally gets out from under him but Shit continues to go wrong for her

[01:57:12] And it's it's misery porn of the highest order It continues to do that for like most of the runtime of the series. The one bright spot is annie mcdowell As the as her mother

[01:57:25] Okay, who's kind of like a art chick energy of like, you know, nothing gets to her But she's really deeply wounded by things. It's it's a fascinating watch Definitely be prepared to be Really fucking depressed when you watch it. Yeah, no shit

[01:57:42] I know it's it's two in a row too because my wife was also the one who said yeah, let's watch baby reindeer and so Boy, um, i've got two actually. Yeah. Yeah, since you mentioned margo robbie the other day I had like come back from the gym

[01:57:58] And they started babalon Okay, and I was like working on some stuff. I was answering some emails, you know doing cool cool guy stuff Cool guy stuff. Yeah

[01:58:07] So I the first half of that movie was just being played in the other room while I was working on the computer About the time I got to it. I think I came I actually sat down with him

[01:58:17] I was the movie just maybe a little over like two-thirds through Wow, what is this one of those things where you think about there's finite resources on this earth and we all have a limited amount of time and

[01:58:30] You gotta wonder how much man hours were wasted on and how much energy and how much water how much money? Was wasted on this movie that like can't even be coherent for more than a couple minutes. Damn

[01:58:42] Have you seen it jason I have not no is so imagine that cohen brothers Yeah movie that no one wants to think about the one with george cluing in it. Oh, uh, uh cruelty

[01:58:55] Uh something the one where george cluing gets he's an actor. He gets abducted by hail caesar hail caesar Hail caesar. Okay, imagine like hail caesar I'm trying to make like a real prestige movie out of it. Oh boy, but you don't have the chops

[01:59:10] You don't have the chops. Oh boy, and you were somehow given like 250 million dollars to make a movie that that feels like It was on like univision Like if like if this feels it feels rough. Yeah I mean, it's it's interesting

[01:59:29] Because it's like you got all these big names to really try and and make something good out of this turd But there ain't no saving it all this production value all margo robbie is good brad pitt like does a really great job but it just

[01:59:45] It's another one of those movies that's trying to make a statement about the old days of Of film of early hollywood And it feels like it's telling you A narrative that has no stake in the actual reality of things like it feels like a xerox of a xerox

[02:00:05] And again, it's a 250 dollar or 250 million Xerox of a xerox kind of movie. Mm-hmm. The other thing last night we watched salt burn Okay and I See this This is a movie that was really in the discourse for a while when it came out last year

[02:00:25] I know somebody eats cum. That's all I know about the movie is it's a man jerks off in a bathtub and bury The oh he good. Yeah the the possum face boy

[02:00:37] He he as the man leaves trying to stay awake through parvick's it's like i'm keeping hours i'm not used to keeping but the uh the rich kid the aristocrat that very Possum face is like kind of like doing this weird con to

[02:00:53] As the water is draining out of the bathtub as they share a bathroom in this big palatial estate called salt burn He like like smashes his face into the water as it's draining out of this big beautiful bathtub

[02:01:05] And is like slurping it and licking it and it's very horny and weird and there's a lot of parts of the movie They're very horny and weird. Um, I think the cinematography of the film is very interesting

[02:01:17] There's a lot of stuff. There's a lot of scenes. They're shot with a framing that is reminiscent of like a uh a portrait or a scene Uh that would have been painted like in the 1500s or 1600s. It feels very much. Um very interesting, um

[02:01:35] Amazon scene I guess is the phrase i'm I'm kind of just raw dogging this right here. Um But the composition is very interesting. The the the colors are very muted It's shot in just a way. That's very striking. I think the direction is good

[02:01:50] The casting is good. The acting is generally pretty good it has a a twist In it that is a couple twists and some of them are good. Some of them One twist is pretty good the other one less so but it

[02:02:06] Is basically a movie about a guy who's going to college And he tells everyone that he's like comes from a disadvantaged background And his sob story ends up befriending like this rich kid at oxford

[02:02:20] It's like their first year of college and he kind of in a way gets himself Twist in the lives of his like rich family during like summer break and all of their trials and tribulations and It feels like these rich people are kind of just viewing

[02:02:35] Oliver is the character's name oliver as like a spectacle Uh having been in situations like that is working in media Because everyone thinks now if you're still doing this shit, you have to be a rich kid or you're Or you're just crazy or something like that. Um

[02:02:52] I've kind of been in situations where people realize like oh i'm just river trash from north county Or people thinking like or people from north county that were involved like or you know less affluent parts of st louis

[02:03:03] Looking at me and thinking I was a rich kid when it's like motherfucker. I grew up like a mile away from you, right? It kind of gets flipped on its head where actually

[02:03:13] Barry or not Barry, um oliver is the one taking advantage of the family particularly the son that he has befriended Kind of causes all of this misery amongst these rich people It really changes like who you pity or who you think is

[02:03:27] Being awful, but there is a scene that had me wondering where uh the young man oliver, uh, the Man that he's conning his classmate schoolmate Like dies and then it's this big sad thing. But also oliver has like a weird Psychosexual obsession with him

[02:03:50] He's buried the family plot on the property and the family leaves and it's just him in the rain with this freshly filled in grave with a simple wooden cross because the headstone is not there yet and the dude, uh

[02:04:04] Just straight up lays on top of the dirt and starts dicking it down And and I asked I asked both my girlfriend and her friend. Did harmony kareen work on this? ah this felt like very much like uh, like uh a harmony like this is

[02:04:23] He's he's eating the bathtub come he's dicking down the grave dirt This feels like something like from kids gregorocky. Uh, you know harmony kareen Todd solons those those types of uh It definitely feels uh, it's definitely like a weird

[02:04:43] Hypersexual movie with some things about class and intention and kind of flip some stuff on its head. It's worth Watching I think if you don't like the story You'll probably like how some stuff was shot

[02:04:55] If you don't like one thing you'll probably like how like like everyone's reading fucking it because it takes place in 2006 All the characters are reading fucking harry potter like these posh kids. Yes, I'm hearing harry potter the sounds like they're listening to

[02:05:07] You know the killers and like it's a very 2006 block party is is got a sink in there It hurt it hurt it made me feel old in a very specific kind of pain

[02:05:21] Yeah, when everyone was reading harry potter, it's worth your time. It's free on amazon still I think so Um, that's all i've got I think for today

[02:05:32] Well, this is about part of the show where we tell you where to find us online devin since you are our guest Why don't you go ahead and tell us where to find you on the old internet?

[02:05:40] Oh, it's where all my friends come from which is uh x.com The everything let's know. Yes. No, no, no No, i'm not no Yes, no, uh, okay, it's twitter. Thank you. Uh I'm devin t. O'Shea on everything. I got the tik tok on I got the instagram

[02:06:03] We're cooking are you on threads? That's my big question for everyone this week Yeah I like lost my password for it. And so I just have like this Dummy app on my phone. That's just weighing me down. It's not doing anything. Yeah, it's just hanging out

[02:06:22] Wow, all right sucks and uh brian how about yourself where can we find you online if you want to Send me death threats. You can find me on twitter At ishaki deported is hot gyd b or d if you want to

[02:06:39] Uh, check me out on instagram. It's uh a music photographer If you want to check out, uh my portfolio of photography That's uh, asshole music photographer.com if you want to check out some words with some photos

[02:06:56] You can go over to a a music photographer.com if you want to check out was quite literally the last good Music website or media website in st. Louis go over to the arts stl

[02:07:09] Dot com I think jason green the other in chief posted today on facebook that i'd say was the first day in like Three months where he had had a new article to post. There's lots of content up there

[02:07:21] Yeah, lots of content nice lots of good stuff up there. Um It was supposed to be uh, I was hoping to be photographing barou, but there was a mix-up on some stuff And we missed the deadline

[02:07:33] Uh, so that's why i'm here in st. Louis with y'all and uh in tennessee sweating my balls off um And being dehydrated, uh, i'm just being dehydrated here in the exactly of the of the of the uh tower grove chalet Oh, yeah

[02:07:48] But I think my next thing I think i'm trying to photograph jeezy. Hell. Yeah. Oh hell. Yeah, let's go. Absolutely. Let's fucking go Um, we are so back we're so back and i'm thinking

[02:08:00] Thinking if I can make it work that I want to go to laurence kansas later in july Um and see amel the sniffers at uh, the granada because i know is a cool little venue Yeah, and I think those college kids would go the fuck off

[02:08:16] For that in a way that st. Louis kids don't And i've seen I saw ajj the granada like five or six years ago and it was fucking amazing So I imagine seeing something as hyped up as amel and the sniffers. Um, and their new song

[02:08:29] Is great. I think it's called you shouldn't be doing that. You should not be doing that and it's Uh, if you're not familiar with amel and the sniffers, um the Lead singer whose name is uh, amy taylor's new songs fucking killer. Um music video has um

[02:08:46] The dude who did uh trevor and grand theft auto five. Oh, yeah It's fucking rules. Um, it's a great fucking little song and it's basically about because she's like

[02:08:57] Does it wear like a ton of clothes and she's very like kind of affront about some things that maybe aren't considered to be Lady-like even in uh our day and age of 2024

[02:09:08] I think she's awesome. She's I've read lots of interviews with her where she comes off as a very thoughtful person So she's kind of a multifaceted woman the song is basically about um Her doing her thing and finding success and coming back home because they're from australia

[02:09:23] Uh and people back home being like, you know, like maybe you shouldn't be like, you know dressing like that and And acting like that and like well, you know clipping her wings basically Yeah

[02:09:33] When it's like well, okay, but this is probably the most interesting thing going on in guitar music right now Also the cover click down there It's uh, it's a is one of the best photos i've seen of a band in a minute

[02:09:48] It looks like they're at like a dugout For like a baseball diamond and the guy the three men the three boys in the band. They're back behind the fence Uh just out of kind of the reach of the flash as far as good exposure goes

[02:10:01] And amy taylor is right there in the bottom left quadrant She's got we've got the fibonacci going really hard on this composition here. She's wearing, uh thigh high boots with uh pink stilettos a nice little white cocktail dress with

[02:10:15] Gloves going all the way up, uh her arms and uh, she's just uh taking a real sweet piss into that dirt The biggest smile on her face. Yeah, and that's that's art That's amazing. I hang that up in the living room

[02:10:30] Zach bailey by the way doing that photo wonderful fucking music's great It is indeed anyways. Yes arts stl tech that shit out. Uh, jason Where can they harass you on the internet? Oh boy. Oh boy send me all your harassment

[02:10:45] Whatever it is that you feel necessary even if I didn't deserve it Anytime you're going to see a video crime. That's me b-i-d-e-o-c-r-i-m-e With the notable exception of instagram and tiktok there. I am laser goose ceo

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[02:11:32] A little extra post show hang out and then we like to call. Thanks. I hate it And then also if we get ten patrons at the ten dollar level we're gonna do a 90-minute commentary track on a japanese puke fetish video

[02:11:48] Called caro monster home delivery. I can't believe this hasn't happened yet. This is as many haters as you have I say every time i've made so many enemies in this life You'd think that enough of them would come together and spend 10 bucks a piece

[02:12:05] Just to put you through because i'm a man of my word i'll watch the whole damn thing. Oh we're doing yeah Yeah, I got we're really struggling out here. I know It's it's like i've never thought at any point in my life as an adult that

[02:12:18] Asking people to spend a little bit money to make my life worse. Yeah That people would not would not fucking jump up at the opportunity. I guess I just I just need to work harder. Yep, you gotta get a hater

[02:12:29] You gotta get more haters and you get back on stl punk and harassed dudes and not waving but drowning Well, you can also find me as part of a podcast called submitted for the approval of the midnight pals where I play a

[02:12:43] fictionalized version of stephen king that is midnight pals dot simple cast dot com Well that about does it for the show and as we always say at this time namaste. Good luck eat the knife

[02:12:54] And of course give mommy a good good fucking and uh, of course good night devin good night. Thank you for having me on