Trap your friends in a gross apartment in a cult-like fashion, it's yet another SPOOKY 48 Minutes of Dogs Barking!
This week we're talking Tim Walz' Chinese Girlfriend, Hum (the book), a political ad centered around the C Word, Sharpei rugpulling, Hum, WalShart, Ryan Girdusky getting banned from CNN and we revisit the Tale of the Final Fantasy VII House, reading more of the inhabitants' letters.
Opening theme performed by Jeffy & The Sunken Heads - https://jeffy2.bandcamp.com
Contains clips from :
"Careless Whisper - George Michael [Saxophone Version]" by Enzo Buonaurio Sax - https://youtu.be/TNDC_XeEoMQ
"lmao got it" by @halomancer1 (original by AmericaPAC) - https://twitter.com/halomancer1/status/1850967848732037453
"[YTP] California Harris says DON'T" by YT Pewp - https://youtu.be/TPrvKocgMQU
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[00:00:04] Why are you not Donald Trump?
[00:00:39] Wow, it's 48 minutes of dogs barking.
[00:00:45] Wow, I listened to two guys that were fed paint chips as children talk about dumb internet shit.
[00:00:53] Wow, you just really came to the right place.
[00:00:55] Special guest, Christopher Walken, welcome to the show.
[00:00:57] It is indeed 48 minutes of dogs barking.
[00:00:59] I have a garden.
[00:01:00] I have the power of God.
[00:01:03] God, within me, I'm his messenger.
[00:01:08] That's Brian.
[00:01:09] I'm Jason.
[00:01:10] I'm the one who's going to laugh.
[00:01:12] He's Howard Stern.
[00:01:13] I'm Robin Quivers.
[00:01:14] You know the routine.
[00:01:15] Hey, now.
[00:01:16] We're putting you on the city in shape.
[00:01:21] I'm going to get my 36 G's out.
[00:01:23] It's just on the radio.
[00:01:24] Yeah, just.
[00:01:27] Oh, boy.
[00:01:28] It has been an insane week.
[00:01:32] AmericanPolitics.net is really just popping off.
[00:01:34] Really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
[00:01:37] I didn't know Puerto Rico was made out of garbage.
[00:01:39] Apparently.
[00:01:39] Apparently.
[00:01:40] I didn't know that they.
[00:01:41] I thought it was a real island.
[00:01:43] Yeah.
[00:01:43] I don't know.
[00:01:44] No wonder why they're having problems with their infrastructure and stuff.
[00:01:47] You built your house on garbage, bro.
[00:01:48] Yeah.
[00:01:49] I mean, what the hell?
[00:01:49] Yeah, what the hell?
[00:01:51] John Leguizamo came out.
[00:01:53] All these other people.
[00:01:54] These people who are supporting Puerto Rico came out.
[00:01:58] It was pretty fascinating.
[00:01:59] Ricky Martin posting.
[00:02:00] I'm not sitting still for this.
[00:02:02] Coming from a guy who's apparently called Kill Tony.
[00:02:04] He's like, yeah, why not?
[00:02:05] Yeah.
[00:02:06] Yeah.
[00:02:08] Kind of feels right.
[00:02:09] And John Seward comes on and does a milk toast kind of like, hey, give the guy a break.
[00:02:14] He's a roast comic.
[00:02:15] I'm like, yeah, well, then he got booked for the wrong fucking venue there, pal.
[00:02:18] Yeah.
[00:02:19] You don't bring roast comic.
[00:02:19] What was Nick Mullen doing?
[00:02:24] Can't get Stavi for this?
[00:02:26] You can't get Shane Gillis?
[00:02:30] What's fucking Tim Dillon?
[00:02:31] Dude, Tim Dillon would kill it.
[00:02:33] Oh, yeah.
[00:02:33] Tim Dillon would come out dressed like Trump.
[00:02:36] Just do the whole thing.
[00:02:37] Shane Gillis probably would, too, actually.
[00:02:39] I mean, you know what?
[00:02:41] I'm not trying to do their job for them, but this shows a lack of imagination.
[00:02:45] Yeah.
[00:02:45] I mean, if two idiots in the Midwest can think this up, I'm sure someone in their field can do this.
[00:02:53] The opportunities were there.
[00:02:54] They just didn't take it.
[00:02:55] Whiffed on every single one.
[00:02:57] Yeah.
[00:02:57] And you just did plain old boring fascism.
[00:03:00] Yeah.
[00:03:01] Boo.
[00:03:01] You couldn't bring out the bread and circuses.
[00:03:04] No.
[00:03:04] Nothing entertaining.
[00:03:05] At least the RNC had fucking Hulkamaniacs.
[00:03:09] Hulkamaniacs.
[00:03:12] That's macho, man.
[00:03:14] Macho.
[00:03:14] Make macho.
[00:03:15] Make America macho.
[00:03:16] Make America macho again.
[00:03:19] There you go.
[00:03:20] Oh, yeah.
[00:03:21] We're going to bring the immigrants over.
[00:03:24] Oh, we're going to pull them in the square circle.
[00:03:27] Oh, yeah.
[00:03:28] And then I'm going to jump off the top turnbuckle and I'm going to take away their dreamer status.
[00:03:38] Macho Man Randy Fascist.
[00:03:39] Let me tell you something, man.
[00:03:41] I'm not going to let them do no early voting.
[00:03:44] No, no.
[00:03:47] No siree.
[00:03:48] No siree.
[00:03:49] So, yeah.
[00:03:49] So, it's going to be a politics-filled show, unfortunately.
[00:03:51] I apologize in advance.
[00:03:54] It's just...
[00:03:54] That's one that's on our minds this week.
[00:03:56] That's one that's on the internet.
[00:03:57] All the listeria outbreaks and the food supply?
[00:03:58] No.
[00:03:59] No.
[00:03:59] We're not going to be talking about any of that.
[00:04:00] We're not worried about it.
[00:04:01] Yeah.
[00:04:01] I don't eat that garbage.
[00:04:03] Right.
[00:04:03] I go to Jimmy John's like a man who respects himself.
[00:04:07] Damn right.
[00:04:08] Or, God, I had Panera for the first time a couple weeks ago and I was like,
[00:04:12] God damn it, Brian's right.
[00:04:13] It's hospital food.
[00:04:13] It is literally hospital food.
[00:04:15] There's no imagination left in it.
[00:04:17] I've lost whatever sauce or juice they ever had.
[00:04:20] They've solidified their supply chain so much for speed that they have lost anything
[00:04:25] that made Breadco or Panera, whatever the fuck you want to call it, appealing 20 years ago.
[00:04:30] Well, speaking of being appealing 20 years ago,
[00:04:33] Oh, really more like 35.
[00:04:37] I know, but work with me here.
[00:04:39] The Daily Mail decided to publish this bombshell report that Tim Walz fucks.
[00:04:47] Yeah.
[00:04:50] This is such an interesting piece.
[00:04:52] Yeah.
[00:04:53] Because it feels like it's supposed to be a hit piece.
[00:04:55] It really does.
[00:04:57] But all it does is make Tim Walz sound hella cool.
[00:05:00] Oh, insane.
[00:05:00] Yeah.
[00:05:01] So you're saying Tim Walz, he went to China, just fucking laid some pipe?
[00:05:06] He slayed the sliz.
[00:05:09] Yeah.
[00:05:09] I don't know.
[00:05:09] Yeah.
[00:05:09] He was fucking, he was putting in the work.
[00:05:12] Mm-hmm.
[00:05:12] He apparently had some pull.
[00:05:15] Mm-hmm.
[00:05:15] And that pull involved the then 24-year-old daughter of a high-ranking communist party member?
[00:05:21] Yeah.
[00:05:22] Like, okay, dude.
[00:05:23] So again, where's the part where I'm supposed to be upset?
[00:05:25] Yeah.
[00:05:26] He wasn't married.
[00:05:27] They were about the same age.
[00:05:29] There's nothing there.
[00:05:30] So like, okay, so Tim Walz was a Dreamcast stan.
[00:05:33] Yeah.
[00:05:34] And he's got pull.
[00:05:35] Yeah.
[00:05:35] So the guy gets pussy.
[00:05:37] Yeah.
[00:05:37] And we presumably still can.
[00:05:38] He's married.
[00:05:39] I would imagine.
[00:05:39] And if he weren't married, still.
[00:05:41] So it's just like one of those things where like, so this guy doesn't like suck.
[00:05:44] Yeah.
[00:05:46] Like, we're really like, so everything about J.D. Vance makes him seem like the sort of person
[00:05:50] you would not leave alone in a computer lab at like a school or a library.
[00:05:54] Right.
[00:05:54] And we're supposed to feel like this guy is some paragon of like Christian values or something.
[00:05:58] But here's Tim Walz throwing it out there and getting something back.
[00:06:02] Yeah.
[00:06:03] And we're supposed to think that that's awful.
[00:06:06] I don't get it.
[00:06:07] The unmarried man in his mid-twenties traveling abroad got laid?
[00:06:11] Yeah.
[00:06:13] All right, man.
[00:06:14] Hold the phone, folks.
[00:06:16] My favorite bits.
[00:06:17] This is a Ben Ashford writing an exclusive for DailyMail.com.
[00:06:21] Couldn't even get it in the regular paper.
[00:06:23] Tim Walz had a secret fling with the daughter of a high-ranking communist official during his
[00:06:26] 1989 teaching stint in China.
[00:06:29] Jenna Wang, 59, claims the VP hopeful showered her with gifts and seduced her at his pokey
[00:06:35] staff accommodation at No. 1 High School in Fochang, Guangdong Province.
[00:06:39] The lovers could not risk holding hands or showing affection in public because Wang's dad
[00:06:44] was a high-ranking figure in the CCP who would disown her for fraternizing with a Westerner.
[00:06:49] But their romance blossomed behind closed doors as they sipped tea, made love, and listened
[00:06:56] to George Michael hits, leading the then 24-year-old Wang to dream about marriage and a new life
[00:07:02] in the United States.
[00:07:03] No proposal was forthcoming.
[00:07:05] And the shame of being treated, quote, like a prostitute, eventually left wing, feeling
[00:07:11] angry and suicidal, she claims.
[00:07:13] Now, she caught feelings over what was clearly a fling.
[00:07:18] That's not on him.
[00:07:19] Tim was very passionate and very romantic.
[00:07:22] I can still remember dancing with him to our favorite song, Careless Whisper.
[00:07:28] Hell yeah, baby.
[00:07:29] All right.
[00:07:29] You can get laid up to listen to Careless Whisper.
[00:07:32] Good on you, brother.
[00:07:33] The fact that we couldn't touch or kiss in public just made it all the more exciting and
[00:07:36] intense when we were finally alone.
[00:07:38] We were deeply in love and I wanted to marry him and start a family.
[00:07:41] When it didn't happen, I felt very unhappy and sad.
[00:07:45] Tim's behavior was very selfish.
[00:07:47] And then they bring up, oh, well, you know, he claimed he was in Tiananmen Square, but
[00:07:52] he wasn't.
[00:07:53] Or it was in Hong Kong when it erupted.
[00:07:55] Yeah.
[00:07:55] Yeah.
[00:07:56] Here's a picture of him in 1990 that he sent to her.
[00:07:59] I mean, goddamn, dude.
[00:08:02] I mean, if he can get laid looking like a math teacher, goddamn, brother.
[00:08:07] I mean.
[00:08:07] Well, I have always heard stories from Westerners who have gone live like in China and Japan
[00:08:14] that like you don't have to really be like that good looking of a white guy.
[00:08:19] Like there's just always going to be women that see like a Westerner or European and
[00:08:24] like are immediately just like, oh, what's up?
[00:08:26] Yeah.
[00:08:27] And I'm sure that and I'm sure that's not just like a thing that is particular to like
[00:08:32] China and Japan.
[00:08:34] I'm sure.
[00:08:35] No.
[00:08:35] It's very common.
[00:08:37] Yeah.
[00:08:37] He continued to write her, though, says during the summer, Wall's return to the U.S.
[00:08:41] but wrote letters to Wang giving vivid depictions of his life and teaching job in Alliance,
[00:08:46] Nebraska.
[00:08:47] At Wall's direction, Wang says she sent off a passport photo and information about herself
[00:08:51] to an address in the United States, believing it was part of the process to secure her a
[00:08:55] visa.
[00:08:56] Her relationship began to sour.
[00:08:58] I mean, there is obviously a narrative here of a romance that got rocky, but that's like
[00:09:04] also two like young people and some pretty interesting circumstances.
[00:09:09] Yeah.
[00:09:09] And then like two years after the relationship started to sour, he met Gwen Whipple, who
[00:09:13] he then married.
[00:09:15] Yeah.
[00:09:15] So like, yeah, I mean, like, OK, well, that sounds like young people and how complicated
[00:09:20] love can be when you're young.
[00:09:22] And then also you add in the things about the top ranking communist official father.
[00:09:28] And, you know, so I mean, like, OK, yeah, like that.
[00:09:30] So he's lived a life.
[00:09:32] Yeah.
[00:09:33] And like this woman's also lived a life.
[00:09:35] Like, so they had a human experience.
[00:09:37] Oh, God.
[00:09:38] It's not the process.
[00:09:39] And, you know, like, you know, it's not a happy ending.
[00:09:42] Sure.
[00:09:43] But not all romances have one of those, of course.
[00:09:46] So, yeah.
[00:09:47] Like, again, I don't know what this like if this is supposed to like.
[00:09:50] So Tim Walts is a human being who's done human ass things.
[00:09:54] Yeah.
[00:09:54] Wow.
[00:09:55] Damn.
[00:09:56] This is so much like.
[00:09:57] Yeah.
[00:09:57] And, you know, well, Donald Trump's putting, you know, catch up on his his well done steak,
[00:10:02] you know, like exactly.
[00:10:06] And fucking J.
[00:10:07] Vance has, you know, eyeshow tattooed on his eyelids, you know, like I know this is supposed
[00:10:14] to move the needle.
[00:10:15] How exactly?
[00:10:16] Yeah.
[00:10:16] And this fucking tweet here you just pulled up from Thai Buddha boy.
[00:10:19] I can't read it without laughing.
[00:10:21] You do it.
[00:10:22] Wait, wait, wait, wait.
[00:10:23] He nutted this young man sprayed during a trip to a foreign country.
[00:10:29] How is how is this possible?
[00:10:32] He was single at the time.
[00:10:34] Yet he he splashed loads.
[00:10:37] This is just not adding up.
[00:10:41] I know very few people, male or female, who have gone like backpacking or spent like a
[00:10:46] month like in a foreign country or something.
[00:10:48] Yeah.
[00:10:49] And didn't get laid at least once.
[00:10:50] Right.
[00:10:51] Because the thrill of being in his place.
[00:10:52] I think it's like part of the trip.
[00:10:54] I think.
[00:10:55] Yeah.
[00:10:55] Kind of.
[00:10:55] More than others.
[00:10:56] Yeah.
[00:10:56] I get it.
[00:10:57] So from Tim Walls to his running mate, Kamala Harris, the Elon fronted America pack had the
[00:11:04] wherewithal to post this video on X the other day before probably taking it down after the
[00:11:11] hubbub.
[00:11:11] Good old Jenny tight pants, AKA at Halo Mancer one grabbed a copy.
[00:11:17] And so here it is.
[00:11:19] Warning.
[00:11:19] This ad contains multiple instances of the C word.
[00:11:23] Viewer discretion is advised.
[00:11:26] Kamala Harris is a C word.
[00:11:28] You heard that right.
[00:11:29] A big old C word.
[00:11:31] In fact, all of the other C words think she's the biggest C word of them all.
[00:11:36] That's right.
[00:11:37] She's a tax hiking, regulation loving, gun grabbing communist.
[00:11:42] And the worst part?
[00:11:43] She's proud of it.
[00:11:45] Kamala Harris.
[00:11:46] The C word America simply can't afford.
[00:11:49] See you nationwide Tuesday, November 5th.
[00:11:53] I'm not going to lie.
[00:11:54] The part where the C word we cannot afford and they have the laughing Kamala in the background.
[00:12:00] That is this very ominous thing.
[00:12:05] That part works.
[00:12:06] Everything else is dumb.
[00:12:07] Yeah.
[00:12:08] This is really fucking stupid.
[00:12:09] Yeah.
[00:12:10] Kamala Harris is a c**t.
[00:12:11] Or Kamala.
[00:12:12] Yeah.
[00:12:12] Is a c**t.
[00:12:13] Yes, please say it.
[00:12:14] Like, yeah.
[00:12:14] Just say she's a c**t.
[00:12:16] Yeah.
[00:12:17] I mean, she's just as much for genocide as the other side.
[00:12:19] Right.
[00:12:20] And she's also wanting to build the wall.
[00:12:22] So, like, yeah, that's some c**t behavior.
[00:12:23] And it's not serving c**t like a Charlie XCX record.
[00:12:26] Uh-uh.
[00:12:27] She's not giving mother.
[00:12:28] She's not serving c**t.
[00:12:29] Yeah.
[00:12:29] Yeah.
[00:12:31] No slaying.
[00:12:32] Except for the Palestinian children.
[00:12:34] Actual slaying.
[00:12:35] Yeah.
[00:12:35] One of the replies, Isaac Evilman, at Isaac underscore Evilman.
[00:12:40] They had an even more direct allusion to it at the end.
[00:12:43] See you nationwide Tuesday.
[00:12:46] Hmm.
[00:12:47] Okay.
[00:12:48] You know what?
[00:12:48] Again, I'm going to have to give a couple points on the board for that.
[00:12:51] Yeah.
[00:12:52] See you next Tuesday would be better.
[00:12:55] Right.
[00:12:56] Because then that end hits a little bit harder.
[00:12:59] Mm-hmm.
[00:13:01] Dr. Van Fook at the Shy Duck.
[00:13:03] I wish she was this cool.
[00:13:05] Yeah.
[00:13:05] I really do wish that all of our democratic politicians were as deeply communist and socialist
[00:13:11] as the right wing likes to say.
[00:13:14] Yeah.
[00:13:14] Don't threaten me with a good time.
[00:13:16] Fuck.
[00:13:16] They're going to call you a communist no matter what you do.
[00:13:19] So you might as well just go whole hog, man.
[00:13:21] Fuck it.
[00:13:21] Absolutely.
[00:13:22] You know?
[00:13:24] Or no matter who you reach out to.
[00:13:26] Oh, so Liz Cheney and Dick Cheney support you.
[00:13:28] They called you a communist anyway.
[00:13:30] Yeah.
[00:13:30] So fucking do communist shit.
[00:13:32] Fuck it.
[00:13:33] There's no winning with these people.
[00:13:35] Speaking of these people.
[00:13:36] No.
[00:13:36] Nope.
[00:13:38] Cut it.
[00:13:39] Damn.
[00:13:42] I know.
[00:13:43] I know.
[00:13:43] A gentleman appeared on CNN in a bit of a town hall here.
[00:13:48] CNN News Night with Abby.
[00:13:50] Girl Dickie.
[00:13:51] Yeah.
[00:13:52] To Hassan Piker.
[00:13:54] Not Hassan Piker.
[00:13:56] It's Mendy Hassan.
[00:13:57] Chat, is this fucked up?
[00:14:00] Well, Hassan Piker would not sit for this shit.
[00:14:02] You're fully cooked, bro.
[00:14:04] Yeah.
[00:14:04] He would just tell him to his face.
[00:14:06] Now, a gentleman's last name is Gerdusky.
[00:14:09] He appeared on CNN News Night in a bit of a town hall here.
[00:14:14] You've got Mendy Hassan and a few other CNN talking heads here.
[00:14:18] The Chiron.
[00:14:19] Harris condemns Trump's rally.
[00:14:21] U.S.
[00:14:21] Exhausted by nonsense.
[00:14:22] The rally they're referring to is...
[00:14:24] Is the rally to restore peace?
[00:14:27] Restore sanity?
[00:14:27] I'm sorry.
[00:14:28] I fucking whiffed that.
[00:14:29] I think it was the one at Madison Square Garden.
[00:14:31] But principle of the thing is the same.
[00:14:33] They're arguing back and forth about Palestinians and the support of the administration.
[00:14:37] Mendy Hassan opens with, if you don't want to be called Nazis, stop doing Nazis.
[00:14:41] Yeah.
[00:14:42] I mean, it's pretty simple.
[00:14:42] Yeah.
[00:14:43] And Gerdusky...
[00:14:45] You've criticized Israel anyone more than this table.
[00:14:47] So, Gerdusky, founder of the 1776 PAC, so you know where he stands.
[00:14:53] Ooh.
[00:14:54] He tells Mendy Hassan...
[00:14:56] Mendy Hassan comes back with, you know, I'm probably the most critical of Israel on this channel.
[00:15:01] I support the Palestinian people.
[00:15:03] And he just drops, yeah, and I hope your beeper doesn't go off.
[00:15:07] Ooh.
[00:15:08] Ooh.
[00:15:09] Mm.
[00:15:10] Some real next level shit talking.
[00:15:12] And then the next minute and a half cross talk.
[00:15:15] And did you just threaten my life on live TV?
[00:15:17] That kind of shit.
[00:15:18] Like, back and forth.
[00:15:19] Yeah.
[00:15:19] The impact of the statement was pretty fucking clear.
[00:15:22] And we're pretty certain that Ryan Gerdusky not going to be back on TV.
[00:15:25] Yeah.
[00:15:26] He is a member of Project 2025, listed on the American Moment site there.
[00:15:31] Abby Phillip, who's the host of the show, had to come on later and issue this statement.
[00:15:38] Everyone who's going to stay here after the commercial break, take a step forward.
[00:15:41] Not so fast, Ryan.
[00:15:43] Fuck off fucking up.
[00:15:43] I mean, you get your big break, you get on CNN, and then you just drop that one.
[00:15:48] It's like, well, okay.
[00:15:49] All right.
[00:15:49] No.
[00:15:50] Not great.
[00:15:50] I mean, you're accusing a man of being a Hezbollah member, of being a terrorist, right?
[00:15:55] And it is a threat on his person.
[00:15:57] Mm-hmm.
[00:15:58] Just going to preempt it here that this guy is probably a Mossad agent.
[00:16:02] You think?
[00:16:02] I wouldn't doubt it.
[00:16:04] I mean, stranger things have happened.
[00:16:05] Or he's just dipshit.
[00:16:07] I mean, both these things are pretty...
[00:16:08] The Venn diagram is pretty...
[00:16:10] I was going to say, he can be both?
[00:16:12] Yeah.
[00:16:12] Yeah.
[00:16:13] The Venn diagram is almost a circle.
[00:16:14] They even did another statement later.
[00:16:16] You know, we will not allow guests to be demeaned for the line of civility to be crossed.
[00:16:19] Ryan Gerdusky will not be welcomed back at our network.
[00:16:22] Not just this show, but at the network.
[00:16:25] He got himself a little ban from CNN for that comment.
[00:16:28] And that comes from CNN directly, not from the host, Abby Phillips.
[00:16:32] Which was a bit of a shock.
[00:16:33] Like, okay, well, I guess they do have standards at some point.
[00:16:37] Right.
[00:16:37] It's rare, but it does happen, I suppose.
[00:16:40] Blind pig, you know, so forth and so on.
[00:16:42] Well, speaking of a blind pig, it's Crypto Scam of the Week.
[00:16:46] You're listening to 48 Minutes of Dogs Barking, the podcast.
[00:16:50] And now it's time for the Crypto Scam of the Week.
[00:16:53] Oh, yeah.
[00:16:54] Oh, yeah.
[00:16:55] I guess you're familiar with the meme coin Sharpay.
[00:16:59] It's yet another...
[00:17:00] I heard about this briefly at one point.
[00:17:03] Yeah.
[00:17:03] Sol Chain is the new shitcoin chain.
[00:17:07] And this cycles Binance Smart Chain.
[00:17:11] It's a new BSC.
[00:17:13] Yeah.
[00:17:14] And so the Sharpay coin, dollar sign Char, launched Wednesday.
[00:17:18] This, according to Decrypt, and was promoted with a cartoonish artwork of a Sharpay dog,
[00:17:23] combined with a push by crypto Twitter influencers known as key opinionators, KOLs.
[00:17:27] The meme coin quickly ran to a $54 million market cap.
[00:17:33] As this peak was hit, and I gotta give credit here, Ryan S. Gladwin, again, writing for Decrypt,
[00:17:41] the pitch deck leaked with claims that the project's creators had onboarded, quote,
[00:17:48] 50-plus Tier 1 KOLs and had plans to partner with exchanges and other projects.
[00:17:54] And then, here it is.
[00:17:55] Here's the actual pitch deck.
[00:17:57] 18 seconds long.
[00:17:59] They mentioned Char alongside Doge, ETH, and Bitcoin.
[00:18:03] I think the one that really gets you, though, is where...
[00:18:06] There it is.
[00:18:07] Top KOLs and traders on board.
[00:18:09] Now, someone was kind enough to grab this.
[00:18:12] I'm only recognizing a couple.
[00:18:14] The one in particular is CryptoWiz,
[00:18:18] who has sometimes gotten himself in some trouble with this sort of stuff before.
[00:18:22] Sure.
[00:18:23] That's interesting.
[00:18:24] I thought I would see some other people.
[00:18:27] Yeah.
[00:18:28] You know, I also have been paying less and less attention to that part of the internet.
[00:18:32] Because, man, aside from stuff like this, it's the same old fucking story over and over again.
[00:18:37] Like, you know, someone launches Joker sperm.
[00:18:41] J-sperm.
[00:18:43] Yeah.
[00:18:44] And it's got memes like, you're not buying and hodling, and you think that's funny?
[00:18:49] Mm-hmm.
[00:18:50] Berg, I'm tired of buying and hodling.
[00:18:52] That's right.
[00:18:53] So one of the influencers shown on this pitch deck, Patty Ice, at Patty underscore FI,
[00:19:00] responds with, at Solana Call, please take my name off this.
[00:19:03] I have no affiliation with you.
[00:19:05] So they put these profile pictures in the pitch deck of people that are like,
[00:19:09] no, I don't know anything about this.
[00:19:11] Yeah.
[00:19:12] Now, whether that's true or not, you know.
[00:19:14] It means to be said, but I don't doubt that that happens.
[00:19:18] No, I don't doubt it either.
[00:19:19] The leaked deck, this is again the Decrypt article, claimed that a strategic partnership with Bonk would come once Char hit $100 million market cap,
[00:19:31] which was denied by Bonk contributors Cadence and Nom.
[00:19:35] Meanwhile, Joji, who has over 200,000 followers, was also named as being involved, a claim Joji denies,
[00:19:44] sharing a screenshot of Telegram messages that disproved a partnership.
[00:19:48] Yellow Tree, however, was featured and did post about the project.
[00:19:53] He told Decrypt that he was paid for the promotion three months ago, but didn't disclose it.
[00:19:58] He claimed that other big KOLs were involved, many of which have since deleted their posts.
[00:20:04] No shocker there.
[00:20:05] Yeah.
[00:20:06] I think what was the shocker there, though, was Char spiked to $54 million for a market cap.
[00:20:13] And then it dropped to $35.5.
[00:20:17] And then almost immediately after to $1.3 million.
[00:20:21] In like two seconds, it says, following a massive coordinated sale.
[00:20:25] One of the most insane rugs I've ever seen.
[00:20:29] That's pretty wild.
[00:20:30] This is according to...
[00:20:32] I mean, look at that fucking dip.
[00:20:34] $40 million to $1 million in one candle.
[00:20:40] That's so fucking wild.
[00:20:42] That's what drew me to this particular story was just that graph.
[00:20:46] Straight down.
[00:20:47] I hate to say it, but during the last bull run, that shit was happening almost daily on BSC.
[00:20:53] Right.
[00:20:54] Which is why you said Solana's the new BSC.
[00:20:56] Yeah, because they've got PumpFun and a bunch of other things.
[00:20:59] I don't try to keep up with Sol because that's a whole other fucking world to understand of thought and memes and ideas.
[00:21:09] Right.
[00:21:09] And I have other things in life that are more important than trying to understand different crypto cultures.
[00:21:15] But yeah, Solana is a whole other different beast.
[00:21:19] I can understand how things work for better or worse like on Ethereum or BSC or a couple other chains.
[00:21:29] But Sol is just like a whole different level of degeneracy.
[00:21:34] And it really feels like people that know exactly how much a tall boy of high life costs at the gas station on the street to the penny.
[00:21:42] And have actually paid with exact change before.
[00:21:45] Well, see, I know that, but that's only because I had some hard times is all I'm saying.
[00:21:51] Yeah.
[00:21:52] But prices have changed.
[00:21:53] It's actually more now than it used to be.
[00:21:55] So, Char, you know, the at Solana Cole did post to Twitter a response to this.
[00:22:02] We understand what everyone may be thinking right now and want to provide our response.
[00:22:05] We have genuinely built a large, remarkable project and the entire ecosystem we discussed.
[00:22:12] We have been preparing this project for over three months and everyone knows about it.
[00:22:16] However, due to the FUD, we no longer had the funds to continue operations.
[00:22:22] We can provide proof that we communicated with every influencer represented in the pitch deck.
[00:22:27] While we never claimed to have finalized agreements with everyone, we had offers and deals from everyone on that list.
[00:22:34] Please wait for updates.
[00:22:35] And that was about a week ago.
[00:22:38] Yeah.
[00:22:40] Not surprised.
[00:22:41] It was the FUD.
[00:22:42] It was the FUD that had done it.
[00:22:44] That's why we sold everything.
[00:22:48] The FUD.
[00:22:50] At G-S-U-S-S-O-L.
[00:22:52] No way you prepped art for the rug.
[00:22:56] And yes, there is a piece of art of the dog with a parachute.
[00:23:00] At D-E-7-E-R-V.
[00:23:03] Our CEO died and we don't have access to the funds.
[00:23:06] Referencing a previous scam.
[00:23:09] Yeah.
[00:23:09] Hold on a second.
[00:23:10] We're figuring this out.
[00:23:11] Don't sell.
[00:23:12] Yeah.
[00:23:12] Yeah.
[00:23:13] How did that end up, by the way?
[00:23:15] Was it just straight to the bottom?
[00:23:17] I think so.
[00:23:18] I think that's pretty much how it goes.
[00:23:19] The best one was the dev had COVID.
[00:23:22] I've seen that in a few telegrams.
[00:23:25] And that's why he's not in the telegram channel.
[00:23:29] There's nobody else who can...
[00:23:31] Nope.
[00:23:32] Sorry.
[00:23:32] Yeah.
[00:23:32] He's got COVID.
[00:23:33] Sorry.
[00:23:34] Can't get on Discord.
[00:23:35] He's got COVID.
[00:23:36] Wizard of Shoho leaked their communications, I guess.
[00:23:39] The Sharpe people had asked for 0.75% of the token supply in exchange for promotion.
[00:23:47] Now, Wizard of Shoho said no.
[00:23:50] No, no.
[00:23:51] You're getting it wrong.
[00:23:53] Oh, I'm sorry.
[00:23:54] He asked them for 0.75%.
[00:23:57] It's 0.75% of total market or total supply.
[00:24:03] That is a considerable amount.
[00:24:05] Yeah, you're right.
[00:24:06] Like a person, in most tokens, if someone owns more than half a percent of the supply,
[00:24:13] has the ability to wreck a chart.
[00:24:15] Okay.
[00:24:17] So that is way too much to give to one person.
[00:24:21] That is way too much influence on the viability of the project as far as the chart,
[00:24:29] the Japanese candles are concerned.
[00:24:31] Yeah.
[00:24:32] Sorry.
[00:24:32] Every once in a while, reading one of these, I get the two parties flip-flopped.
[00:24:36] I'm still learning.
[00:24:37] You know?
[00:24:38] You're still learning how to read.
[00:24:39] It's okay.
[00:24:39] You're what?
[00:24:40] 40?
[00:24:40] 49?
[00:24:41] Still learning how to read?
[00:24:42] 43.
[00:24:43] Thank you very much, you asshole.
[00:24:45] Hey, here's your fun dip.
[00:24:47] Yeah.
[00:24:48] Uh-huh.
[00:24:49] All right.
[00:24:49] Well, that depressing thought aside.
[00:24:53] Yeah.
[00:24:54] It's time to open up a cold can and read something really depressing.
[00:24:59] It really is.
[00:24:59] So those of you who are listening to the show on a regular basis may remember last week
[00:25:04] we featured the Final Fantasy VII house.
[00:25:07] And we said, oh, you know, there's more stuff.
[00:25:08] We should go into it on a future episode.
[00:25:11] Well, this is that episode.
[00:25:12] We're in the future now.
[00:25:13] This is happening.
[00:25:14] When you're listening to this,
[00:25:16] MAGA stormtroopers may have destroyed the capital
[00:25:19] and certain parts of Baton Rouge
[00:25:22] and a siege to figure out what happened to the Taco Bell dog.
[00:25:28] Or...
[00:25:29] I know they got him in there.
[00:25:30] I know they got him.
[00:25:31] They're hiding him underneath the Vatican.
[00:25:32] Where's his green card?
[00:25:35] Son of a bitch was lying.
[00:25:36] Yo, Kero, green cards, you son of a bitch.
[00:25:39] That said, you may recall the Final Fantasy VII house had a lot of moving parts.
[00:25:44] And I think that this article from the good folks...
[00:25:49] Well, good folks.
[00:25:50] The people at Vice.
[00:25:52] The people that exist, that used to have jobs.
[00:25:56] Asher Elbin.
[00:25:58] Elbine?
[00:25:58] Elbin?
[00:26:00] Asher, let us know how you actually say it.
[00:26:02] Back in June of 2015, wrote this.
[00:26:06] The headline,
[00:26:07] When fandom goes wrong,
[00:26:09] the dark tale of the Final Fantasy VII house.
[00:26:12] Astute listeners may realize that in the opening of this article
[00:26:16] is kind of an abbreviation of what we read last week.
[00:26:19] So, here we go.
[00:26:20] It wasn't the hunger that finally drove Sid
[00:26:22] to leave the Final Fantasy VII house.
[00:26:23] It wasn't the way the others took advantage of him.
[00:26:26] A 19-year-old trans kid with a love of art,
[00:26:28] a drinking problem.
[00:26:30] It wasn't even the abuse.
[00:26:31] Or the ears listening in whenever he tried to communicate
[00:26:34] with the outside world.
[00:26:35] No, what really did it was the theft of his shoes.
[00:26:38] The rainstorm that lashed State College Pennsylvania
[00:26:41] the day before had been so intense
[00:26:44] that the little supermarket where Sid worked
[00:26:46] lost power and sent him home.
[00:26:48] He walked the whole way back in the rain
[00:26:50] without an umbrella or an overcoat.
[00:26:52] When he arrived at the second-story apartment
[00:26:54] he shared with his two roommates,
[00:26:55] he was soaked and shivering.
[00:26:57] He left his shoes outside to dry
[00:26:59] and went inside to the glitter-covered surfaces,
[00:27:02] the rank odor of the neglected trash,
[00:27:05] the shouting and emotional abuse.
[00:27:07] The next morning, the shoes were gone.
[00:27:10] So Sid walked out.
[00:27:12] It was August 2002,
[00:27:13] and the summer sun beating down on the blacktop
[00:27:16] burned his feet.
[00:27:17] He'd taken a change of clothes,
[00:27:19] a pocket knife,
[00:27:20] a sketchbook,
[00:27:21] a pencil,
[00:27:21] and all the money he had left.
[00:27:23] Five dollars.
[00:27:24] I was homeless for a few days,
[00:27:26] he recalled on the website,
[00:27:28] the public warning website
[00:27:29] we referred to last week.
[00:27:31] I had the freedom to walk where I wanted,
[00:27:32] to sit down where I wanted.
[00:27:33] There were no smells.
[00:27:34] There was no fighting.
[00:27:36] I wasn't sick on the food I ate.
[00:27:37] No one was waking me up
[00:27:38] to tell me to go outside
[00:27:39] and look at fairy rings.
[00:27:41] I swear to you,
[00:27:42] I would much rather be homeless
[00:27:44] than live with people like them
[00:27:45] ever again.
[00:27:47] The threat of homelessness
[00:27:48] does not faze me
[00:27:49] because I have seen something much worse.
[00:27:52] The internet is full of strange stories.
[00:27:56] Urban legends, paranoid fantasies,
[00:27:58] the accumulated folklore of a billion minds
[00:28:00] endlessly remixing in the digital ether,
[00:28:03] but there are few tales stranger
[00:28:05] than the case of the Final Fantasy VII house.
[00:28:08] The houses,
[00:28:09] there were several in succession,
[00:28:11] were the homes of a real-world role-playing cult
[00:28:14] run by a woman whose fantasies
[00:28:16] left lives in tatters.
[00:28:17] It shows that even as accumulating friends online
[00:28:21] and translating those online friendships
[00:28:23] to real ones becomes more and more widespread,
[00:28:25] we still can't be totally sure
[00:28:28] of the person behind the monitor
[00:28:29] until we meet them.
[00:28:31] These online relationships can be important,
[00:28:33] especially to unhappy young people
[00:28:35] who feel out of place
[00:28:36] in their IRL surroundings,
[00:28:38] but they can still spiral out of control.
[00:28:41] So there was just,
[00:28:43] there's so much in this story.
[00:28:47] Because again,
[00:28:48] we read the stories last week
[00:28:49] of just one person.
[00:28:52] Yeah.
[00:28:52] And that was the bulk of the episode,
[00:28:54] was this one person's experience.
[00:28:56] One of the people quoted in this article
[00:28:58] is Joseph Laycock,
[00:28:59] which,
[00:28:59] fucking phenomenal name by the way,
[00:29:02] professor of religious studies
[00:29:03] at Texas State University,
[00:29:04] referring to the people in the house,
[00:29:07] soul bonders, etc.,
[00:29:08] as other kin.
[00:29:10] They think of themselves
[00:29:11] as reincarnations of characters.
[00:29:14] Yeah.
[00:29:14] Other kin,
[00:29:15] you know,
[00:29:15] people claim to be animals,
[00:29:18] spirits,
[00:29:20] famous historical figures,
[00:29:22] what have you,
[00:29:23] fictional characters,
[00:29:24] much like these people.
[00:29:25] Laycock says
[00:29:26] that other kin status
[00:29:28] often functions
[00:29:29] as something closer
[00:29:30] to a personal identity.
[00:29:33] And despite the general scorn
[00:29:35] that the internet holds for them,
[00:29:36] it's important to understand
[00:29:38] that the people claiming the identity
[00:29:40] aren't necessarily crazy.
[00:29:42] Quote,
[00:29:43] not everyone who takes part
[00:29:44] in this community is damaged
[00:29:46] or looking to take advantage
[00:29:48] of damaged people,
[00:29:49] he said,
[00:29:49] but it does draw people
[00:29:52] who are very alienated
[00:29:54] and alienated people
[00:29:55] are very vulnerable.
[00:29:58] A little background
[00:29:59] on the author
[00:30:00] of the original post.
[00:30:01] You know,
[00:30:01] they had a rough upbringing
[00:30:03] before they entered
[00:30:03] Oliver University in 2001.
[00:30:05] Didn't get along
[00:30:06] with their family,
[00:30:07] beginning to grapple
[00:30:08] with gender identity,
[00:30:10] freely admits
[00:30:11] to drinking too much
[00:30:12] during the freshman year,
[00:30:13] which,
[00:30:14] freshman year,
[00:30:14] that's kind of a thing you do.
[00:30:16] But college exposed
[00:30:17] him to video games,
[00:30:18] particularly Final Fantasy VII,
[00:30:20] and he started participating
[00:30:21] in the online fan community,
[00:30:23] building the website
[00:30:24] that attracted
[00:30:25] Jen or Joanna's attention.
[00:30:27] They're referred to
[00:30:28] by many different names here
[00:30:29] because they have
[00:30:30] referred to themselves
[00:30:31] by many different names.
[00:30:33] Jen has gone by Joanna,
[00:30:34] and, you know,
[00:30:36] Jenova,
[00:30:37] and all that stuff.
[00:30:39] So the website
[00:30:39] got the attention
[00:30:41] of Joanna,
[00:30:42] Jen.
[00:30:43] So the bit reference
[00:30:45] in a Cid
[00:30:46] slash Demon Sushi story
[00:30:48] that we talked about
[00:30:49] last week
[00:30:49] about the soundproof room,
[00:30:51] that was actually
[00:30:51] the practice room
[00:30:52] in the Penn State
[00:30:54] music building.
[00:30:55] That was the way
[00:30:56] they were going to
[00:30:57] make them remember
[00:30:58] being Zack
[00:30:59] from Final Fantasy VII.
[00:31:00] But of course,
[00:31:01] it just kept going.
[00:31:02] If you remember
[00:31:03] the bit in the story
[00:31:04] where I made him
[00:31:06] continue working
[00:31:07] this shitty job
[00:31:08] at the grocery store
[00:31:09] and all that.
[00:31:10] So once Cid
[00:31:11] slash Demon Sushi,
[00:31:13] once their story
[00:31:14] was kind of wrapped
[00:31:16] by what we read
[00:31:16] last week,
[00:31:17] that was when
[00:31:18] the website went up.
[00:31:19] 2006,
[00:31:20] they launched the site
[00:31:21] a full, you know,
[00:31:22] four years after
[00:31:23] it actually happened.
[00:31:24] The article continues,
[00:31:25] Cid's website
[00:31:26] warning others
[00:31:27] of the house
[00:31:27] launched in 2006.
[00:31:29] He'd been telling
[00:31:30] anyone who would listen
[00:31:31] that Joanna,
[00:31:31] again,
[00:31:32] Jen,
[00:31:33] Jenova,
[00:31:33] was trouble,
[00:31:34] he said,
[00:31:35] but hadn't been
[00:31:36] having much luck.
[00:31:37] Quote,
[00:31:38] I realized the only way
[00:31:39] anyone would take
[00:31:40] these warnings
[00:31:40] about nice,
[00:31:41] kind,
[00:31:41] popular Jen,
[00:31:43] Joanna,
[00:31:43] Jenova,
[00:31:44] seriously would be
[00:31:45] if I collected
[00:31:46] first-hand accounts
[00:31:47] of her abuse,
[00:31:49] including lists
[00:31:50] of her alternate blogs
[00:31:51] and AIM accounts.
[00:31:53] The website initially
[00:31:54] only had a few stories
[00:31:55] posted,
[00:31:55] including a slightly
[00:31:56] rewritten account
[00:31:57] of Cid's experience
[00:31:58] that he'd originally
[00:31:59] posted to LiveJournal.
[00:32:01] But a week after
[00:32:02] the site went live,
[00:32:03] Cid said,
[00:32:03] he found himself
[00:32:04] bombarded with emails
[00:32:06] from other people
[00:32:07] who'd encountered
[00:32:08] Joanna and the
[00:32:10] Final Fantasy VII house.
[00:32:12] Both Cid's initial
[00:32:13] entry and the 2006
[00:32:15] website attracted
[00:32:16] plenty of curious
[00:32:17] attention,
[00:32:18] both in the Final Fantasy
[00:32:19] fandom and other
[00:32:20] corners of the internet.
[00:32:21] That attention grew
[00:32:22] as people from
[00:32:23] outside the
[00:32:24] relatively insular
[00:32:25] fandom picked up
[00:32:25] the story,
[00:32:26] spreading it
[00:32:26] elsewhere online,
[00:32:27] and that link,
[00:32:28] I believe,
[00:32:29] is Reddit.
[00:32:30] Yep.
[00:32:32] Of course,
[00:32:33] of course.
[00:32:34] Yeah,
[00:32:34] Escapist Magazine
[00:32:35] did an article
[00:32:36] in the video games
[00:32:37] issue.
[00:32:38] Of course,
[00:32:39] it's 404-ing now
[00:32:40] because they got
[00:32:41] bought,
[00:32:41] but it did
[00:32:42] become a game
[00:32:44] for some people
[00:32:45] to find and
[00:32:46] dox Jen
[00:32:47] and all these people.
[00:32:48] That's how we
[00:32:49] found her name
[00:32:51] that we mentioned
[00:32:52] in the previous
[00:32:52] episode,
[00:32:53] digging through
[00:32:53] blogs,
[00:32:54] looking through
[00:32:54] live journals,
[00:32:55] trying to find
[00:32:56] them.
[00:32:56] The interesting
[00:32:58] part to me
[00:32:58] is that,
[00:32:59] again,
[00:33:00] this article
[00:33:00] continues,
[00:33:01] Joanna and
[00:33:02] her supporters
[00:33:04] fought back,
[00:33:05] deleting as much
[00:33:06] of their old
[00:33:06] material as
[00:33:07] possible,
[00:33:08] sparking flame
[00:33:09] wars where
[00:33:10] they raged
[00:33:11] against Sid
[00:33:11] and his
[00:33:11] website.
[00:33:12] They called
[00:33:12] him a liar,
[00:33:13] accused him
[00:33:14] of being insane
[00:33:15] or addicted
[00:33:16] to drugs.
[00:33:17] The fights
[00:33:17] egged on by
[00:33:18] trolls and
[00:33:19] rubberneckers
[00:33:19] reached more
[00:33:21] absurd heights
[00:33:21] with the 2000
[00:33:22] publication of
[00:33:23] a now-deleted
[00:33:24] live journal
[00:33:25] thread that
[00:33:26] detailed a
[00:33:26] similar situation
[00:33:27] to the Final
[00:33:28] Fantasy VII
[00:33:28] house centered
[00:33:29] around a
[00:33:30] nightmarish
[00:33:31] roommate who
[00:33:31] made money
[00:33:32] out of conning
[00:33:33] other kin out
[00:33:34] of money for
[00:33:34] her religion.
[00:33:36] He posts,
[00:33:37] all supposedly
[00:33:38] authored by
[00:33:38] different people
[00:33:39] in the house,
[00:33:40] read in a
[00:33:40] suspiciously
[00:33:41] similar style,
[00:33:42] and I'm
[00:33:43] uncomfortable
[00:33:43] vouching for
[00:33:44] their authenticity.
[00:33:45] But the
[00:33:46] members of the
[00:33:46] online forum
[00:33:47] something awful
[00:33:48] ran with it.
[00:33:49] Of course,
[00:33:49] of course.
[00:33:50] Preserving the
[00:33:51] journal entries
[00:33:51] and launching a
[00:33:52] long-running
[00:33:53] attempt to dig
[00:33:54] up the identity
[00:33:54] of the woman
[00:33:55] allegedly
[00:33:55] described,
[00:33:56] commenters on
[00:33:57] the thread
[00:33:57] eventually claimed
[00:33:58] to have discovered
[00:33:58] that the antagonist
[00:33:59] of the story
[00:34:00] was one of the
[00:34:01] FF7 house members,
[00:34:03] which drew even
[00:34:04] more attention to
[00:34:05] sight.
[00:34:06] In face of all
[00:34:07] this turmoil,
[00:34:09] Joanna and Rachel
[00:34:09] went to ground.
[00:34:11] The author of this
[00:34:12] piece in 2015 was
[00:34:13] unable to get in
[00:34:13] contact with either
[00:34:14] person for the
[00:34:15] story.
[00:34:15] Repeated public
[00:34:16] record searches
[00:34:17] turned up nothing
[00:34:18] under their names,
[00:34:19] but defunct addresses
[00:34:20] in Pennsylvania,
[00:34:22] Arizona,
[00:34:22] and California
[00:34:23] and some
[00:34:24] disconnected phone
[00:34:25] numbers.
[00:34:25] All the email
[00:34:26] addresses listed
[00:34:27] in their live
[00:34:27] journals are dead.
[00:34:28] So it feels
[00:34:29] like,
[00:34:30] ooh,
[00:34:30] okay.
[00:34:31] Ooh,
[00:34:31] this is mysterious.
[00:34:32] I know.
[00:34:33] And so it looks
[00:34:34] like after
[00:34:36] Sid's website,
[00:34:37] according to
[00:34:38] other folks
[00:34:39] associated with
[00:34:40] this,
[00:34:40] that the house
[00:34:41] moved again in
[00:34:41] 2003 to an
[00:34:43] actual house in
[00:34:44] Bellefount,
[00:34:45] Pennsylvania.
[00:34:45] That was the
[00:34:46] woman Patricia
[00:34:47] and Angel.
[00:34:49] Patricia,
[00:34:49] whose testimony
[00:34:50] we read last
[00:34:51] week,
[00:34:52] became a stripper
[00:34:55] to raise more
[00:34:56] money for the
[00:34:57] group.
[00:34:58] And thankfully
[00:34:58] Patricia was able
[00:34:59] to lift herself
[00:35:01] up and kind of
[00:35:02] come to terms
[00:35:03] with the fact
[00:35:03] that,
[00:35:03] yeah,
[00:35:04] I actually like
[00:35:04] stripping,
[00:35:05] but it's weird
[00:35:05] to push someone
[00:35:06] into sex work.
[00:35:08] Yes.
[00:35:08] Obviously it didn't
[00:35:09] work out that
[00:35:10] badly for her in
[00:35:12] this particular
[00:35:12] instance,
[00:35:13] but I have heard
[00:35:14] tale of it going
[00:35:15] very wrong for
[00:35:16] many people involved.
[00:35:17] So it looks like
[00:35:18] she relocated to
[00:35:19] Arizona.
[00:35:19] One of the other
[00:35:20] people referenced
[00:35:21] in this piece
[00:35:22] calling them out
[00:35:23] of the blue
[00:35:24] from California.
[00:35:25] So they describe
[00:35:26] it as such.
[00:35:27] The Final Fantasy
[00:35:28] 7 house at his
[00:35:29] root was a place
[00:35:29] ostensibly built
[00:35:30] around a common
[00:35:31] dream,
[00:35:31] a community for
[00:35:32] people who loved
[00:35:32] the same thing,
[00:35:34] who understood
[00:35:35] and supported
[00:35:36] each other no
[00:35:36] matter what.
[00:35:37] For all the pain
[00:35:38] Joanna inflicted
[00:35:39] on people,
[00:35:40] it is important
[00:35:41] to recall that
[00:35:42] she herself may
[00:35:42] have suffered
[00:35:43] from mental
[00:35:43] illness,
[00:35:44] which may have
[00:35:45] been exacerbated
[00:35:46] by abuse
[00:35:46] suffered at
[00:35:47] Cross Creek,
[00:35:48] which is a
[00:35:49] mental facility.
[00:35:50] It's no wonder
[00:35:50] her attempts to
[00:35:51] create a place
[00:35:51] of like-minded
[00:35:52] people so quickly
[00:35:53] curdled.
[00:35:54] Sid, again,
[00:35:55] demon sushi,
[00:35:56] estimates that
[00:35:56] about 20 people
[00:35:57] were sucked
[00:35:58] into Joanna's
[00:35:59] real world orbit
[00:36:00] and many more
[00:36:01] online.
[00:36:02] Here's a quote
[00:36:02] from Sid.
[00:36:03] Joe was very good
[00:36:04] at selecting people
[00:36:05] who could be
[00:36:06] manipulated and
[00:36:07] forced to being
[00:36:08] victims.
[00:36:09] She recruited the
[00:36:10] disaffected,
[00:36:11] he went on,
[00:36:12] those with bad
[00:36:12] home lives or
[00:36:13] issues with gender
[00:36:14] and sexuality,
[00:36:15] the kinds of people
[00:36:16] looking for
[00:36:17] fellowship online
[00:36:18] who saw an offer
[00:36:19] of a place where
[00:36:20] they could be
[00:36:20] themselves and
[00:36:21] jumped at it.
[00:36:22] People a little
[00:36:23] bit like Joanna
[00:36:24] herself.
[00:36:25] By the time you
[00:36:26] realized you were
[00:36:27] screwed, Sid said,
[00:36:28] you had no one
[00:36:29] you trusted to bail
[00:36:31] you out.
[00:36:32] What?
[00:36:32] Just like a
[00:36:33] terrifying story.
[00:36:35] Oh, absolutely.
[00:36:36] A narrative.
[00:36:37] And they're like,
[00:36:38] this shit really
[00:36:39] fucking happened.
[00:36:40] Right.
[00:36:40] I knew people
[00:36:41] went through
[00:36:41] similar stuff,
[00:36:42] not nearly this
[00:36:42] severe, but
[00:36:44] punk houses can
[00:36:45] sometimes have a
[00:36:46] similar vibe.
[00:36:47] Oh, yeah.
[00:36:48] Oh, you would hear
[00:36:48] horror stories all
[00:36:49] the time about
[00:36:50] these flop houses
[00:36:51] with dirty and
[00:36:53] guys with nicknames
[00:36:54] like Wet Wipe
[00:36:57] and Muscle Joe.
[00:37:01] So on the
[00:37:02] Demon Sushi
[00:37:02] website, there is
[00:37:03] the frequently
[00:37:04] asked questions.
[00:37:05] I found this
[00:37:05] illuminating.
[00:37:06] People send in
[00:37:07] letters asking the
[00:37:07] same questions
[00:37:08] over and over.
[00:37:08] Here's my answers.
[00:37:10] Question.
[00:37:10] Can I use this
[00:37:11] story to write a
[00:37:12] novel slash
[00:37:13] screenplay?
[00:37:13] Answer.
[00:37:14] Yeah, sure.
[00:37:15] Go for it.
[00:37:15] I don't care.
[00:37:16] I just survived
[00:37:17] it.
[00:37:18] Question.
[00:37:18] Can I email you
[00:37:19] for details on
[00:37:20] living with Jen
[00:37:21] that might not
[00:37:21] be covered here?
[00:37:22] Answer.
[00:37:22] I don't like
[00:37:22] talking about it.
[00:37:24] It happened in
[00:37:24] 2002.
[00:37:25] That was a long
[00:37:26] time ago.
[00:37:26] A lot has
[00:37:27] happened since
[00:37:27] then.
[00:37:28] And a lot,
[00:37:29] like the name
[00:37:30] of Jen's 10
[00:37:31] zillion soul
[00:37:31] bonds, has
[00:37:32] become blurry
[00:37:33] plus, you
[00:37:34] know, PTSD.
[00:37:35] Question.
[00:37:35] Do you have
[00:37:35] Jen's contact
[00:37:36] info?
[00:37:37] Answer.
[00:37:37] I do not
[00:37:38] have it anymore.
[00:37:39] Question.
[00:37:40] God, you were
[00:37:41] so fucking
[00:37:42] stupid.
[00:37:43] Answer.
[00:37:43] Trust me.
[00:37:44] I know.
[00:37:47] The most
[00:37:48] important question
[00:37:48] though is this
[00:37:49] one.
[00:37:50] Question.
[00:37:51] Is this
[00:37:51] constantly hanging
[00:37:52] over your life
[00:37:53] slash you were
[00:37:54] never able to
[00:37:55] get past it?
[00:37:56] Answer.
[00:37:56] Answer.
[00:37:56] Not really a
[00:37:57] question, but
[00:37:58] most emails have
[00:37:59] this sort of
[00:37:59] feel of them.
[00:38:00] Most everyone
[00:38:01] who got the
[00:38:01] hell away from
[00:38:02] Jen got the
[00:38:02] hell on with
[00:38:03] their lives,
[00:38:04] myself included.
[00:38:05] I graduated
[00:38:06] college.
[00:38:06] I studied abroad
[00:38:07] in Japan.
[00:38:08] I taught in
[00:38:09] elementary schools
[00:38:10] in Japan.
[00:38:10] I continued
[00:38:11] with my life.
[00:38:12] I have PTSD
[00:38:13] from it, but
[00:38:15] I'm taking
[00:38:15] medication for
[00:38:16] it and moving
[00:38:17] past it.
[00:38:18] I applaud
[00:38:18] them for
[00:38:19] getting through
[00:38:20] this situation
[00:38:20] because it is
[00:38:21] fucked up.
[00:38:22] So there are
[00:38:23] other people
[00:38:23] who, after
[00:38:25] Sid left the
[00:38:25] house, shared
[00:38:26] their stories on
[00:38:27] this website
[00:38:28] eventually.
[00:38:28] So this was
[00:38:29] here some
[00:38:30] letters they
[00:38:31] got in
[00:38:31] October of
[00:38:32] 2006 from
[00:38:33] a person
[00:38:34] named Kat.
[00:38:35] Do you
[00:38:36] want to read
[00:38:37] some of these?
[00:38:37] Sure.
[00:38:38] Okay.
[00:38:38] Hello, my
[00:38:39] name is Kat
[00:38:40] and I
[00:38:40] actually emailed
[00:38:41] you once
[00:38:41] before a long
[00:38:42] while back,
[00:38:43] sometime not
[00:38:44] too long after
[00:38:45] I left Jen's
[00:38:46] group by
[00:38:46] choice,
[00:38:47] complete meltdown.
[00:38:49] I haven't
[00:38:50] really had the
[00:38:51] guts, though,
[00:38:52] to write
[00:38:52] anything until
[00:38:53] now, a day
[00:38:54] after my two
[00:38:54] year anniversary
[00:38:55] of having a
[00:38:56] complete mental
[00:38:56] breakdown and
[00:38:57] leaving.
[00:38:58] And actually,
[00:38:59] it was reading
[00:39:00] Mela's account
[00:39:01] of what went
[00:39:02] on and
[00:39:02] remembering parts
[00:39:03] of it too
[00:39:04] that gave me
[00:39:05] courage.
[00:39:06] I, in fact,
[00:39:07] remember Mela
[00:39:08] really well and
[00:39:09] thought I was
[00:39:09] angry before because
[00:39:10] she was part of
[00:39:11] the group that
[00:39:12] hurt me.
[00:39:13] I find myself
[00:39:14] with no anger
[00:39:15] for her now.
[00:39:16] I actually
[00:39:17] back a lot of
[00:39:18] what she says
[00:39:19] is true and
[00:39:20] I kind of
[00:39:21] emphasize with
[00:39:22] her as well.
[00:39:23] I'm glad she's
[00:39:25] out now too.
[00:39:25] So in 2005,
[00:39:27] on the website
[00:39:28] is Mela's
[00:39:29] story.
[00:39:30] The website's
[00:39:31] author writes,
[00:39:32] the following is
[00:39:33] a series of
[00:39:33] emails I
[00:39:34] exchanged with
[00:39:35] Mela,
[00:39:36] who lived with
[00:39:36] them, them being
[00:39:37] the Final Fantasy
[00:39:38] 7 house people.
[00:39:39] She eventually
[00:39:40] kicked them out
[00:39:41] of their house,
[00:39:41] but her story
[00:39:42] blows mine out
[00:39:43] of the water.
[00:39:44] 11-15-05,
[00:39:46] hi, I'm the
[00:39:48] chick from
[00:39:48] California that
[00:39:49] shows up from
[00:39:49] time to time
[00:39:50] on your site.
[00:39:52] And I figured
[00:39:53] we should talk a
[00:39:54] bit, as I'm
[00:39:55] pretty fed up
[00:39:55] with Jen myself,
[00:39:57] and kicked her
[00:39:58] out of my house
[00:39:58] a couple of
[00:39:59] months ago.
[00:40:00] 11-16-05,
[00:40:02] I met Jen at
[00:40:02] boarding school
[00:40:03] in Utah.
[00:40:04] We got along
[00:40:04] pretty good
[00:40:05] because Jen was
[00:40:06] known as that
[00:40:07] crazy girl that
[00:40:08] thinks she's a
[00:40:08] vampire, and I
[00:40:09] was that crazy
[00:40:10] girl that thinks
[00:40:11] she's a space
[00:40:12] alien.
[00:40:12] I wanted to
[00:40:13] meet up with
[00:40:14] her after the
[00:40:14] program, and I
[00:40:15] kept looking around
[00:40:16] on the internet
[00:40:16] until I came across
[00:40:17] this list of
[00:40:18] information on
[00:40:19] Jen that started
[00:40:19] with, you don't
[00:40:20] like Integra.
[00:40:22] Integra's Asian.
[00:40:23] There was a
[00:40:24] whole lot of
[00:40:25] stuff about
[00:40:26] Jen, and from
[00:40:26] what I saw, I
[00:40:27] could identify
[00:40:28] this as being a
[00:40:29] Jen I knew
[00:40:29] from Utah.
[00:40:30] So I contacted
[00:40:31] the person that
[00:40:32] wrote that
[00:40:32] description, and
[00:40:33] she directed me
[00:40:33] to Renee.
[00:40:34] And from Renee
[00:40:35] to Jen, Jen
[00:40:36] said she had
[00:40:37] been looking
[00:40:37] everywhere for
[00:40:38] me, which I
[00:40:39] had found
[00:40:40] highly unlikely.
[00:40:41] As I was
[00:40:41] online at
[00:40:42] classmates.com,
[00:40:43] and all she
[00:40:43] would have had
[00:40:44] to do was pay
[00:40:45] like 15 bucks
[00:40:46] to subscribe, and
[00:40:47] Jen would have
[00:40:47] unlimited access
[00:40:48] to my contact
[00:40:49] info.
[00:40:50] I should have
[00:40:51] known about their
[00:40:51] financial state when
[00:40:52] I found out that
[00:40:53] in no time over
[00:40:55] the course of two
[00:40:56] years did Jen have
[00:40:56] enough money to
[00:40:57] subscribe to the
[00:40:58] surface.
[00:40:59] I guess she didn't
[00:41:00] really care that much
[00:41:00] about finding me,
[00:41:02] although when we
[00:41:03] talked, she made a
[00:41:04] big deal about how
[00:41:04] she had looked for
[00:41:06] me.
[00:41:06] I came out to visit
[00:41:07] for two weeks after
[00:41:08] a short vacation with
[00:41:09] my parents, as it
[00:41:10] meant that my airfare
[00:41:11] was much cheaper that
[00:41:12] way.
[00:41:13] Things went very
[00:41:14] peachy for that
[00:41:15] time period, except
[00:41:16] for a couple of
[00:41:16] bad signs I wish I
[00:41:17] would have noticed.
[00:41:18] Angel was extremely
[00:41:19] jealous of me, and
[00:41:21] constantly paranoid that
[00:41:22] I would take Jen away
[00:41:23] from her.
[00:41:24] This is not an
[00:41:25] irrational fear, as
[00:41:26] Angel did take Jen
[00:41:27] away from Renee.
[00:41:28] I wasn't sexually
[00:41:29] interested in Jen,
[00:41:30] Angel, or Renee.
[00:41:32] All of them were much
[00:41:33] heavier than I was
[00:41:33] attracted to.
[00:41:35] Jen was constantly
[00:41:35] bragging about how
[00:41:36] they were all losing
[00:41:37] weight.
[00:41:37] I saw no noticeable
[00:41:38] weight loss the whole
[00:41:39] entire time I knew
[00:41:40] them, but Jen was
[00:41:40] consistently pestering me
[00:41:42] to tell her about how
[00:41:43] skinny she was.
[00:41:45] At 200 pounds, no
[00:41:46] one is skinny.
[00:41:48] Or how good she was
[00:41:51] at DDR, or how she
[00:41:52] was working out all
[00:41:53] the time.
[00:41:55] Jen managed to
[00:41:55] weasel over $2,000
[00:41:56] out of me over the
[00:41:57] course of the two
[00:41:58] weeks I stayed.
[00:41:59] I didn't realize how
[00:42:00] much it was adding up
[00:42:01] until I got the credit
[00:42:02] card bill next month.
[00:42:03] All of our spending
[00:42:04] seemed completely
[00:42:05] rational.
[00:42:06] I noticed something
[00:42:07] while I stayed there,
[00:42:08] that Jen didn't own
[00:42:09] a single pair of
[00:42:10] scissors or a
[00:42:11] microwave or a
[00:42:11] toaster or any of
[00:42:12] those other normal
[00:42:13] things.
[00:42:14] But she did have a
[00:42:15] horribly extensive doll
[00:42:16] and crystal collection
[00:42:17] along with lots of
[00:42:18] expensive jewelry.
[00:42:20] Jen just had no idea
[00:42:21] how to spend money
[00:42:22] on things she needed
[00:42:23] and spend it on
[00:42:24] things she wanted.
[00:42:26] She called them
[00:42:27] sparklies or
[00:42:28] shinies.
[00:42:29] She also spent more
[00:42:31] money on food than
[00:42:31] any three people I
[00:42:32] know.
[00:42:33] She had to buy new
[00:42:34] groceries every day,
[00:42:35] fresh vegetables of
[00:42:36] fruit, meat, etc.
[00:42:37] The blood and frozen
[00:42:38] meat was somehow
[00:42:39] tainted and meals
[00:42:40] always revolved around
[00:42:41] what Jen wanted to
[00:42:42] eat.
[00:42:43] There was no
[00:42:43] planning ahead.
[00:42:44] Jen would cook
[00:42:45] whatever she pleased
[00:42:46] and started thinking
[00:42:46] about a meal around
[00:42:47] 10pm.
[00:42:49] Cooking would begin
[00:42:50] near midnight and
[00:42:50] dinner was served in
[00:42:51] the wee hours.
[00:42:52] This appealed to me
[00:42:53] at the time because
[00:42:54] I'm not a morning
[00:42:54] person that everyone
[00:42:55] else I knew ate on
[00:42:56] a day's schedule.
[00:42:58] It would get old.
[00:42:59] When my parents went
[00:43:00] crazy and stopped
[00:43:01] paying for school,
[00:43:02] I was ripe for the
[00:43:02] picking.
[00:43:03] Jen talked to me
[00:43:04] frantically about all
[00:43:05] the bad things that
[00:43:06] were going on and
[00:43:07] somehow managed to make
[00:43:11] I, and my money,
[00:43:13] should come live with
[00:43:14] her.
[00:43:14] I was frantic to get
[00:43:16] away from my parents,
[00:43:17] scared, and wanted
[00:43:19] desperately to live in
[00:43:20] a place where I was
[00:43:20] accepted.
[00:43:22] That place definitely
[00:43:23] was not with Jen,
[00:43:24] but I didn't know
[00:43:25] that then.
[00:43:26] So I packed all my
[00:43:27] belongings into a
[00:43:28] little red car and
[00:43:29] drove 4,000 miles
[00:43:30] cross country to live
[00:43:31] in Pennsylvania.
[00:43:32] Things went bad
[00:43:33] from the first day.
[00:43:34] By the time I had
[00:43:35] gotten there, I was
[00:43:36] scared, freaked out,
[00:43:37] and very tired,
[00:43:38] and Jen promised me
[00:43:39] a full week of
[00:43:40] interrupted time to
[00:43:41] calm down and relax.
[00:43:43] I arrived at 3 a.m.
[00:43:44] on the day I told
[00:43:45] them to find the
[00:43:46] house empty, and
[00:43:47] that knocking produced
[00:43:47] no results.
[00:43:48] I called the phone,
[00:43:49] which was busy, so I
[00:43:50] hunkered down in my
[00:43:51] car in sub-freezing
[00:43:52] temperatures and waited
[00:43:53] for someone to show
[00:43:54] up.
[00:43:55] After a couple hours,
[00:43:56] I left my car,
[00:43:57] knocked on the door
[00:43:57] again, and yelled
[00:43:58] through the mail slot
[00:43:59] trying to find them.
[00:44:00] Renee eventually
[00:44:01] came downstairs and
[00:44:02] let me in.
[00:44:02] They had locked the
[00:44:03] door after Jen and
[00:44:04] Engel left to spend
[00:44:05] the night driving
[00:44:05] around doing nothing,
[00:44:07] which I found out
[00:44:08] later would be one
[00:44:09] of their favorite
[00:44:09] pastimes.
[00:44:11] Engel's husband used
[00:44:12] to give her money
[00:44:12] to pay for her gas,
[00:44:13] but after they spent
[00:44:14] hundreds of dollars
[00:44:15] every month, he
[00:44:16] finally gave up on it.
[00:44:18] Engel's husband was
[00:44:19] treated much the same
[00:44:20] way as my parents.
[00:44:21] One day, Jen would
[00:44:22] be screaming about how
[00:44:23] she should cut off
[00:44:24] contact, and the next
[00:44:26] talking about asking
[00:44:27] him for more money.
[00:44:28] Everything with Jen
[00:44:29] was about money,
[00:44:30] magic, or some
[00:44:31] combination of money
[00:44:32] and magic.
[00:44:33] She bought everything
[00:44:34] for its magical
[00:44:35] property.
[00:44:36] Didn't you know
[00:44:37] everything purple
[00:44:38] was magical?
[00:44:39] 11-19-05.
[00:44:41] So, where was I?
[00:44:42] Oh yes, I had just
[00:44:43] moved in.
[00:44:44] Jen had promised
[00:44:45] that after I had
[00:44:46] been on the road
[00:44:47] for days on end,
[00:44:48] I would be allowed
[00:44:49] to stay alone in my
[00:44:50] room for a week
[00:44:51] and recuperate,
[00:44:52] but Jen's money
[00:44:53] senses were a-tingling,
[00:44:55] and she dragged me
[00:44:56] out to buy groceries
[00:44:57] and all sorts of stuff
[00:44:58] she didn't need
[00:44:59] starting the next day
[00:45:00] at 10 a.m.,
[00:45:01] never mind the fact
[00:45:02] that I arrived at
[00:45:03] 3 a.m.
[00:45:04] Shortly after I
[00:45:04] moved in,
[00:45:05] Angel's jealousy
[00:45:06] went from bad
[00:45:07] to terrible.
[00:45:08] She was constantly
[00:45:09] sulking around,
[00:45:10] giving me dirty
[00:45:11] looks, etc.
[00:45:13] Jen's solution
[00:45:13] to the jealousy
[00:45:14] issue was to set
[00:45:15] up a situation
[00:45:15] where it looked
[00:45:16] like Jen was
[00:45:17] cheating on Angel
[00:45:17] with me so Angel
[00:45:18] would realize,
[00:45:19] quote,
[00:45:20] it's not that bad.
[00:45:21] Not only did she
[00:45:23] come up with this
[00:45:23] horrible idea
[00:45:24] without telling me,
[00:45:25] but she kissed
[00:45:26] me in public
[00:45:27] randomly when
[00:45:28] Angel was driving
[00:45:29] up in the car,
[00:45:30] making it look like
[00:45:31] I had put the
[00:45:31] moves on Jen.
[00:45:33] Angel was really
[00:45:34] upset,
[00:45:34] and I think Angel
[00:45:35] would have gotten
[00:45:36] violent if it
[00:45:37] wasn't obvious
[00:45:37] that I was in
[00:45:38] as much shock
[00:45:39] as she was.
[00:45:40] This is a perfect
[00:45:41] example of how
[00:45:42] Jen starts drama.
[00:45:44] I moved in
[00:45:45] with $17,000
[00:45:46] in my bank account,
[00:45:48] and soon
[00:45:49] Jen had drained
[00:45:50] all of that
[00:45:50] on, quote,
[00:45:51] necessities,
[00:45:52] all, quote,
[00:45:53] for the house,
[00:45:54] many of which
[00:45:54] went into
[00:45:55] Jen's room
[00:45:56] and never came
[00:45:57] out.
[00:45:58] Soon,
[00:45:58] I received a
[00:45:59] check from
[00:46:00] the investment
[00:46:00] company for
[00:46:01] $80,000
[00:46:02] and Jen's
[00:46:03] spending began
[00:46:04] again in earnest.
[00:46:06] I tried to get
[00:46:07] her to stop
[00:46:07] spending money
[00:46:08] on frivolous
[00:46:08] things,
[00:46:09] but every time
[00:46:09] I said no
[00:46:10] or told her
[00:46:10] she should spend
[00:46:11] her own money
[00:46:12] buying things
[00:46:13] for herself,
[00:46:13] she threw
[00:46:14] a fit.
[00:46:15] All this time,
[00:46:16] she was telling
[00:46:17] me how important
[00:46:17] I was to her
[00:46:18] special plan
[00:46:19] and how the
[00:46:20] world needed
[00:46:20] us to stick
[00:46:21] together so
[00:46:22] we could conquer
[00:46:22] evil, etc.
[00:46:24] I wanted desperately
[00:46:25] to feel special.
[00:46:26] I was scared
[00:46:27] and alone,
[00:46:27] and I believed
[00:46:28] her.
[00:46:29] She knew a few
[00:46:30] magic tricks,
[00:46:31] was very good
[00:46:31] at reading people,
[00:46:32] and could give
[00:46:33] relatively accurate
[00:46:34] tarot readings.
[00:46:35] I fell for her
[00:46:37] lies,
[00:46:37] hook,
[00:46:38] line,
[00:46:38] and sinker.
[00:46:39] Finally,
[00:46:40] I found an idea
[00:46:41] as to how to
[00:46:41] occupy her time
[00:46:42] making money
[00:46:43] instead of
[00:46:44] spending it.
[00:46:44] I decided we
[00:46:45] should open
[00:46:46] a business,
[00:46:48] Esoterica
[00:46:48] Curiosities.
[00:46:49] Since I supplied
[00:46:51] all the capital,
[00:46:51] you'd think it would
[00:46:52] be in my name,
[00:46:53] but Angel
[00:46:53] mailed all the
[00:46:54] forms without
[00:46:55] telling me
[00:46:56] and put the
[00:46:57] business
[00:46:57] in Jen
[00:46:58] and Angel's
[00:46:58] names
[00:46:59] exclusively.
[00:47:00] We were going
[00:47:01] to open
[00:47:02] an occult shop
[00:47:03] in Belfont,
[00:47:03] as apparently
[00:47:04] there were none
[00:47:05] of these
[00:47:05] in the state
[00:47:06] college area,
[00:47:07] but Jen
[00:47:07] liked the idea
[00:47:08] of opening
[00:47:08] an occult shop
[00:47:09] much more
[00:47:10] than actually
[00:47:10] doing it.
[00:47:12] I think she
[00:47:13] wanted to
[00:47:13] collect all
[00:47:14] the occult
[00:47:14] stuff more
[00:47:15] than actually
[00:47:16] run the
[00:47:16] business.
[00:47:17] Jen has
[00:47:18] some pretty
[00:47:18] bizarre ideas
[00:47:19] about what
[00:47:19] she thinks
[00:47:20] she is,
[00:47:21] who she thinks
[00:47:22] her ancestors
[00:47:23] are,
[00:47:23] and what
[00:47:24] special powers
[00:47:25] she thinks
[00:47:26] she has.
[00:47:27] Jen is a
[00:47:28] vampire hunter,
[00:47:29] a term she
[00:47:30] made her own
[00:47:31] definition for,
[00:47:32] except when
[00:47:33] she's a vampire
[00:47:34] herself,
[00:47:35] and not just
[00:47:35] any vampire,
[00:47:36] but a master
[00:47:36] vampire.
[00:47:37] Oh, and she
[00:47:38] was going to be
[00:47:39] the new vampire
[00:47:39] slayer,
[00:47:40] except she got
[00:47:40] turned into a
[00:47:41] vampire instead.
[00:47:42] Oops.
[00:47:43] She's queen of the
[00:47:44] fairies,
[00:47:44] live in the
[00:47:44] backyard,
[00:47:45] in the local
[00:47:45] park.
[00:47:46] You'd think that
[00:47:47] being queen would
[00:47:47] take up all of
[00:47:48] her time,
[00:47:48] but it also
[00:47:48] seems she has
[00:47:49] the time to be
[00:47:50] the reincarnation
[00:47:51] of death.
[00:47:52] 11-1905,
[00:47:53] I think I'm
[00:47:53] going to be
[00:47:54] selling some
[00:47:54] of Jen's
[00:47:55] worthless stuff
[00:47:55] that she left
[00:47:56] here on eBay,
[00:47:57] along with a
[00:47:58] description of
[00:47:59] what happened
[00:47:59] to me.
[00:48:00] I'm hoping that
[00:48:01] people will
[00:48:01] feel sorry
[00:48:02] for me,
[00:48:03] and pay more
[00:48:03] than the item
[00:48:04] is worth.
[00:48:05] For instance,
[00:48:06] I have a
[00:48:06] writing crop
[00:48:07] that Jen broke
[00:48:08] across Angel's
[00:48:09] back,
[00:48:09] and then continued
[00:48:10] to whip her
[00:48:11] with,
[00:48:11] leaving huge
[00:48:12] bleeding gashes
[00:48:13] across her back.
[00:48:14] That might sell.
[00:48:17] 11-1905,
[00:48:18] I would love to
[00:48:19] have my experience
[00:48:20] posted on the
[00:48:20] site.
[00:48:21] Actually,
[00:48:21] I wouldn't mind
[00:48:21] having the name
[00:48:22] Mila posted as
[00:48:23] the author,
[00:48:24] as it isn't my
[00:48:25] real name,
[00:48:26] it's just the name
[00:48:26] everyone calls me,
[00:48:27] and if people want
[00:48:28] to bust my ass
[00:48:29] about it,
[00:48:29] they're going to
[00:48:30] bust my ass
[00:48:30] about it.
[00:48:31] I would also like
[00:48:32] to write something
[00:48:32] about what Jen
[00:48:33] and I experienced
[00:48:34] at boarding school,
[00:48:35] along with a note
[00:48:36] about my theories
[00:48:37] about the way
[00:48:37] Jen is the way
[00:48:39] she is.
[00:48:40] What Jen and I
[00:48:41] went through
[00:48:41] together was much
[00:48:42] worse than what
[00:48:43] I put up with
[00:48:43] from Jen,
[00:48:44] and people need
[00:48:45] to watch out for
[00:48:46] Angel as well,
[00:48:47] as Angel is much
[00:48:48] more violent than
[00:48:49] Jen, and as I
[00:48:50] continue the
[00:48:50] narrative, you will
[00:48:51] see she is
[00:48:52] definitely a loose
[00:48:54] cannon.
[00:48:55] 11-1905,
[00:48:56] Renee was living
[00:48:58] with nearly no
[00:48:59] contact with Jen
[00:48:59] except when Jen
[00:49:00] would cook or
[00:49:01] yell at her,
[00:49:02] which I never saw
[00:49:03] happen for Renee
[00:49:04] making too much
[00:49:05] noise by the way.
[00:49:05] In the entire two
[00:49:07] years I lived with
[00:49:07] them, I never saw
[00:49:08] Renee and Jen as
[00:49:09] a couple.
[00:49:10] They certainly
[00:49:10] never had sex.
[00:49:11] Jen always was
[00:49:12] with Angel, and
[00:49:13] Renee would
[00:49:13] occasionally have
[00:49:14] sex with Angel,
[00:49:15] but Jen always
[00:49:16] wanted everything
[00:49:17] on her terms.
[00:49:19] Not that Renee
[00:49:19] was completely
[00:49:20] innocent.
[00:49:21] I sincerely think
[00:49:22] Renee is more
[00:49:23] disturbed than Jen.
[00:49:24] She's just
[00:49:24] antisocial, so she
[00:49:26] isn't interested in
[00:49:26] manipulating people.
[00:49:27] Not that I'm
[00:49:29] mind disturbed.
[00:49:31] 11-1905,
[00:49:32] yeah, you should
[00:49:33] have seen how
[00:49:34] much Jen flipped out
[00:49:34] when she found the
[00:49:35] site.
[00:49:36] I was actually
[00:49:37] the one in the
[00:49:38] house who found
[00:49:39] it first, and I
[00:49:40] just started laughing
[00:49:40] because I didn't
[00:49:41] believe it.
[00:49:42] I was like,
[00:49:44] some people may
[00:49:45] have funny sight
[00:49:45] about how they
[00:49:46] don't like Jen.
[00:49:48] Jen was livid.
[00:49:50] 11-1905,
[00:49:51] I wouldn't mind
[00:49:52] if she harassed
[00:49:53] me, at least she
[00:49:54] would be talking
[00:49:54] to me, then I
[00:49:55] could harass her
[00:49:57] about all the
[00:49:58] stuff she stole
[00:49:58] from me.
[00:49:59] Here's an email
[00:50:00] I mailed
[00:50:01] yesterday.
[00:50:02] So, Mela did
[00:50:04] come up with a
[00:50:05] list of things
[00:50:06] that they want
[00:50:07] back from Jen's
[00:50:09] place.
[00:50:10] In order,
[00:50:11] number one,
[00:50:12] all the stuff I
[00:50:13] ordered from
[00:50:14] Franklin Mint.
[00:50:17] Unicorn crystal,
[00:50:19] ball holder,
[00:50:20] statues,
[00:50:20] dolls,
[00:50:21] hourglasses,
[00:50:22] Arwen's butterfly
[00:50:23] brooch,
[00:50:24] Galandriel's
[00:50:24] necklace,
[00:50:25] etc.
[00:50:25] Everything I
[00:50:26] ever bought
[00:50:27] from Franklin
[00:50:27] Mint.
[00:50:28] Number two,
[00:50:29] all the crystals,
[00:50:30] rocks, and gems
[00:50:31] I bought,
[00:50:31] quote,
[00:50:31] for the house,
[00:50:33] especially the
[00:50:34] large ones and
[00:50:35] the ones bought
[00:50:35] off eBay.
[00:50:36] This includes
[00:50:37] Saruman's sphere
[00:50:39] and the other
[00:50:40] amber sphere I
[00:50:40] bought with my
[00:50:41] money.
[00:50:42] Number three,
[00:50:43] all the stuff
[00:50:43] Jen and Anna
[00:50:44] absconded with
[00:50:45] from the kitchen.
[00:50:46] This includes
[00:50:46] the rolling pin.
[00:50:48] Number five,
[00:50:49] all the dolls I
[00:50:50] bought,
[00:50:50] quote,
[00:50:50] because everyone
[00:50:51] has a Drusilla
[00:50:53] that likes dolls.
[00:50:54] Also the doll
[00:50:55] that Freya
[00:50:56] gave Jen.
[00:50:57] This is me
[00:50:57] wanting.
[00:50:58] This is not her.
[00:50:59] Six,
[00:51:00] all the board
[00:51:01] games that
[00:51:01] were absconded
[00:51:02] with.
[00:51:03] This includes
[00:51:04] Monopoly,
[00:51:05] Lord of the Rings
[00:51:05] Monopoly,
[00:51:06] Lord of the Rings
[00:51:07] Risk,
[00:51:08] Jenga,
[00:51:08] Candyland,
[00:51:09] Shoots,
[00:51:09] and Ladders.
[00:51:10] Seven,
[00:51:11] I want payment
[00:51:11] from Anna to
[00:51:12] cover the repair
[00:51:13] of the door
[00:51:13] she broke.
[00:51:14] Eight,
[00:51:15] I want payment
[00:51:15] from all of you
[00:51:16] to cover the
[00:51:17] weeks of cleaning
[00:51:18] I had to do
[00:51:18] after you left.
[00:51:20] Number nine,
[00:51:21] I want rent
[00:51:21] payment from Jen
[00:51:22] and Anna at
[00:51:23] the rate they
[00:51:23] charged everyone
[00:51:24] else in the
[00:51:25] house for the
[00:51:25] time after Jen's
[00:51:26] grandmother died.
[00:51:28] Jen was paying
[00:51:29] nothing into
[00:51:29] the house.
[00:51:30] All her money
[00:51:31] went to pay
[00:51:32] Anna's car
[00:51:32] for several
[00:51:33] months at a
[00:51:33] rate of $800
[00:51:34] a month for
[00:51:36] two people.
[00:51:37] This has to be
[00:51:38] in excess of
[00:51:39] $10,000.
[00:51:40] Jen insisted
[00:51:41] that everyone
[00:51:41] else pay their
[00:51:42] back rent when
[00:51:43] they didn't pay
[00:51:44] it while they
[00:51:44] lived there.
[00:51:45] Jen is no
[00:51:45] different.
[00:51:46] Again,
[00:51:47] this is $800
[00:51:47] a month in
[00:51:49] 2004,
[00:51:50] 2005?
[00:51:52] Yeah,
[00:51:52] that's a lot
[00:51:53] of money.
[00:51:54] 10,
[00:51:55] I want all
[00:51:55] the Ashes
[00:51:56] I bought
[00:51:56] to sell
[00:51:57] on eBay
[00:51:57] in the
[00:51:58] condition
[00:51:58] in which
[00:51:58] I bought
[00:51:59] them.
[00:51:59] 11,
[00:51:59] I want all
[00:52:00] my fabric
[00:52:00] back.
[00:52:01] A large
[00:52:01] quantity of
[00:52:02] velvet is
[00:52:03] gone.
[00:52:03] Oh,
[00:52:04] the purple
[00:52:04] thing maybe
[00:52:04] got a...
[00:52:06] 12,
[00:52:07] I want my
[00:52:07] corsets back.
[00:52:08] They mysteriously
[00:52:10] disappeared after
[00:52:10] you left.
[00:52:11] 13,
[00:52:12] I want access
[00:52:12] to the storage
[00:52:13] unit.
[00:52:14] I want to go
[00:52:15] through everything
[00:52:15] with all of
[00:52:16] you present so
[00:52:16] we can sort
[00:52:17] out what belongs
[00:52:18] to who.
[00:52:18] 14,
[00:52:19] I want all
[00:52:19] the furniture
[00:52:20] I bought
[00:52:21] back.
[00:52:21] This includes
[00:52:22] the small
[00:52:23] writing desk
[00:52:24] I bought
[00:52:24] at the
[00:52:25] antique shop.
[00:52:28] In a letter
[00:52:28] from 11,
[00:52:29] 1905,
[00:52:30] Jen was always
[00:52:30] complaining that
[00:52:31] I went to the
[00:52:32] hospital too
[00:52:32] much.
[00:52:33] I guess more
[00:52:34] often than her
[00:52:35] equals too
[00:52:35] much because
[00:52:36] my parents
[00:52:37] would pay for
[00:52:37] me to go to
[00:52:38] the ER
[00:52:38] whenever I had
[00:52:39] a migraine
[00:52:40] and Jen
[00:52:40] avoided
[00:52:41] hospitals at
[00:52:42] all costs
[00:52:42] even when
[00:52:43] she was bitching
[00:52:44] and moaning
[00:52:44] and threatening
[00:52:45] to go to
[00:52:45] the ER
[00:52:46] because she
[00:52:46] was so
[00:52:47] faking
[00:52:48] being sick.
[00:52:49] Actually,
[00:52:50] it was kind
[00:52:50] of a funny
[00:52:51] story because
[00:52:52] Jen apparently
[00:52:52] has chronically
[00:52:53] reoccurring
[00:52:54] mono,
[00:52:56] a.k.a.
[00:52:58] stay in bed
[00:52:58] all day and
[00:52:59] feel sorry for
[00:52:59] my self-itis
[00:53:00] and Jen was
[00:53:01] not very sick
[00:53:02] with diarrhea
[00:53:03] and throwing
[00:53:04] up everything
[00:53:05] because she
[00:53:06] was so stressed
[00:53:06] about being
[00:53:07] sick and she
[00:53:08] kept threatening
[00:53:08] to go to the
[00:53:09] hospital ER
[00:53:10] hoping that
[00:53:10] everyone would
[00:53:11] realize how
[00:53:11] sick she was.
[00:53:12] I will agree
[00:53:13] she is sick
[00:53:14] in the head
[00:53:15] but this
[00:53:15] wasn't what
[00:53:16] she was talking
[00:53:16] about and feel
[00:53:17] sorry for her
[00:53:18] or do stuff
[00:53:19] for her or
[00:53:19] something.
[00:53:20] She keeps
[00:53:20] threatening to
[00:53:21] go to the
[00:53:21] ER and I
[00:53:21] kept telling
[00:53:22] her go.
[00:53:22] Go to the
[00:53:23] hospital and
[00:53:24] get some
[00:53:24] medicine and
[00:53:24] get better
[00:53:25] instead of
[00:53:25] griping about
[00:53:26] it to me.
[00:53:27] Everyone is
[00:53:28] telling her to
[00:53:28] go and she's
[00:53:29] whining about
[00:53:29] how expensive
[00:53:30] it will be
[00:53:30] and I'm
[00:53:30] like look
[00:53:31] you have
[00:53:32] no income
[00:53:32] you pay
[00:53:33] no taxes
[00:53:33] the hospital
[00:53:34] has this
[00:53:35] policy where
[00:53:35] they have
[00:53:36] to treat
[00:53:36] you and
[00:53:37] if you have
[00:53:37] no income
[00:53:37] they will
[00:53:38] do it for
[00:53:38] free.
[00:53:39] That's why
[00:53:39] people donate
[00:53:39] money to the
[00:53:40] hospitals and
[00:53:41] suddenly she
[00:53:41] gets this
[00:53:42] dumb look on
[00:53:43] her face like
[00:53:43] I'd ruined
[00:53:44] her plan and
[00:53:45] suddenly it
[00:53:46] dawned on
[00:53:46] me.
[00:53:47] I had
[00:53:47] ruined her
[00:53:47] plan.
[00:53:48] Her angle
[00:53:48] was this.
[00:53:49] She was
[00:53:50] sick.
[00:53:50] Very sick.
[00:53:51] But poor
[00:53:52] pitiful
[00:53:52] Jen was too
[00:53:53] poor to be
[00:53:54] able to afford
[00:53:54] a trip to
[00:53:55] the hospital
[00:53:55] and in order
[00:53:56] to save money
[00:53:57] so that everyone
[00:53:57] in the house
[00:53:58] could live and
[00:53:58] eat and
[00:53:59] contribute to
[00:53:59] her shining
[00:54:00] collection she
[00:54:01] would sacrifice
[00:54:02] her health.
[00:54:03] I realized
[00:54:04] this and I
[00:54:04] just looked at
[00:54:05] her like she
[00:54:05] was the dumbest
[00:54:06] person on the
[00:54:06] planet.
[00:54:07] But she is
[00:54:08] about money.
[00:54:08] Well the
[00:54:09] second dumbest.
[00:54:10] But that's
[00:54:10] its own story
[00:54:11] which I will
[00:54:11] only tell you
[00:54:12] if you're
[00:54:12] interested enough
[00:54:13] to ask.
[00:54:13] But yeah I
[00:54:14] think she
[00:54:15] likes being
[00:54:15] poor, likes
[00:54:16] living off
[00:54:17] others'
[00:54:17] generosity.
[00:54:17] I think it
[00:54:18] makes her
[00:54:18] feel that
[00:54:19] other people
[00:54:19] love her at
[00:54:20] least enough
[00:54:21] to pay for
[00:54:21] her doing
[00:54:22] nothing.
[00:54:22] I think every
[00:54:23] time someone
[00:54:24] buys her
[00:54:24] something it
[00:54:25] reinforces her
[00:54:26] feeling of
[00:54:26] importance.
[00:54:27] I don't think
[00:54:28] she realizes it
[00:54:29] makes people
[00:54:30] resent her.
[00:54:32] Like with her
[00:54:33] teeth.
[00:54:33] Jen claims she
[00:54:34] lost two
[00:54:35] teeth as a
[00:54:36] result of a
[00:54:37] sword fighting
[00:54:37] injury.
[00:54:39] Jesus.
[00:54:40] The way she
[00:54:41] described it
[00:54:41] sounded highly
[00:54:42] suspicious.
[00:54:43] Jen intermittently
[00:54:44] complained about
[00:54:44] her completely
[00:54:45] missing teeth
[00:54:45] providing near
[00:54:47] constant misery
[00:54:48] but she only
[00:54:48] complained after
[00:54:49] she spent all
[00:54:50] my money.
[00:54:51] I don't think
[00:54:52] Jen ever wanted
[00:54:53] her teeth fixed.
[00:54:54] It would
[00:54:54] eliminate something
[00:54:55] she could be a
[00:54:55] victim of,
[00:54:56] hold over
[00:54:57] Renee's head,
[00:54:57] and get to
[00:54:58] play poor,
[00:54:59] poor, pitiful
[00:54:59] me about.
[00:55:00] So Jen had no
[00:55:01] issue with
[00:55:01] spending well
[00:55:02] over $50,000
[00:55:03] of my money
[00:55:04] on frivolous
[00:55:05] shit but she
[00:55:07] claimed it would
[00:55:07] be uncouth of
[00:55:08] her to ask me
[00:55:09] to pay a $225
[00:55:10] dental bill to
[00:55:12] end her
[00:55:12] constant misery.
[00:55:14] Also, I can't
[00:55:15] figure out why
[00:55:16] it was okay in
[00:55:17] her mind to
[00:55:17] get on disability
[00:55:18] which she made
[00:55:19] a half-hearted
[00:55:19] attempt to do
[00:55:20] but not to try
[00:55:21] to get on
[00:55:22] food stamps
[00:55:22] even when we
[00:55:24] had no money
[00:55:25] and no food.
[00:55:26] I think this
[00:55:27] has something to
[00:55:28] do with the
[00:55:28] fact that in
[00:55:29] spite of her
[00:55:29] desire to be
[00:55:30] poor, she also
[00:55:31] wanted everyone
[00:55:32] to think she
[00:55:33] was rich.
[00:55:33] She was still
[00:55:35] the spoiled
[00:55:36] little rich
[00:55:36] girl.
[00:55:37] Food stamps
[00:55:38] equals bad
[00:55:39] because poor
[00:55:40] people get
[00:55:40] them and
[00:55:40] disability
[00:55:41] equals good
[00:55:42] because it
[00:55:43] was the
[00:55:43] authority saying
[00:55:44] it was not
[00:55:45] her fault
[00:55:45] she couldn't
[00:55:46] work.
[00:55:47] Oh wait, I
[00:55:48] forgot, she
[00:55:49] had three jobs.
[00:55:51] Head desk.
[00:55:53] Number one,
[00:55:54] running the
[00:55:55] Helsing forum
[00:55:56] on the
[00:55:56] helsing.org,
[00:55:57] a job which
[00:55:58] mostly provided
[00:55:59] her the opportunity
[00:56:00] to ridicule
[00:56:02] people.
[00:56:03] Number two,
[00:56:04] sticking her
[00:56:04] nose into
[00:56:05] other people's
[00:56:05] business at
[00:56:06] the house.
[00:56:06] Number three,
[00:56:07] helping people
[00:56:07] wrongly involved
[00:56:08] in the occult.
[00:56:10] Yeah, I saw
[00:56:11] her maybe spend
[00:56:12] a few hours on
[00:56:13] this the whole
[00:56:13] time she was
[00:56:14] there in spite
[00:56:15] of what she
[00:56:16] claims she
[00:56:16] never counseled
[00:56:17] vampires.
[00:56:19] She thinks she
[00:56:20] fucking is one.
[00:56:21] She mostly
[00:56:22] finds people
[00:56:23] role-playing on
[00:56:23] the internet
[00:56:24] and tells them
[00:56:24] about how
[00:56:25] drinking blood
[00:56:26] is bad because
[00:56:26] you can get
[00:56:27] diseases and
[00:56:28] stuff.
[00:56:29] I will add
[00:56:30] number four,
[00:56:31] caution,
[00:56:31] this is not
[00:56:32] a Jen-approved
[00:56:33] job,
[00:56:33] playing Neopets,
[00:56:35] reading Slash,
[00:56:36] and Incredibles
[00:56:37] fandom.
[00:56:37] She definitely
[00:56:38] spent more than
[00:56:39] five hours a
[00:56:40] day doing
[00:56:41] Neopets,
[00:56:42] Slash,
[00:56:42] and Incredibles.
[00:56:43] And Jess,
[00:56:44] one of the
[00:56:45] other roommates
[00:56:45] of Jen and
[00:56:46] I,
[00:56:46] is here.
[00:56:47] She says
[00:56:47] hi.
[00:56:47] She doesn't
[00:56:48] like Jen
[00:56:48] either.
[00:56:49] 11-19-05,
[00:56:50] Jen would
[00:56:50] always get
[00:56:51] mad because
[00:56:51] my car
[00:56:52] always had
[00:56:53] gas and
[00:56:54] kept suspecting
[00:56:55] that I was
[00:56:55] hiding money.
[00:56:56] It wasn't
[00:56:57] that hard to
[00:56:58] always fill up
[00:56:59] on the way
[00:56:59] home from
[00:57:00] work and
[00:57:01] then never
[00:57:01] run out of
[00:57:02] gas as
[00:57:03] opposed to
[00:57:03] always pumping
[00:57:04] five dollars
[00:57:04] or less.
[00:57:06] Oh,
[00:57:06] and the
[00:57:06] painting on
[00:57:07] the walls,
[00:57:08] it was in
[00:57:08] dry erase
[00:57:09] marker.
[00:57:11] 11-19-05,
[00:57:13] I never
[00:57:14] would have put
[00:57:15] up with being
[00:57:15] hit if Jen
[00:57:16] hadn't made
[00:57:17] it seem like
[00:57:17] it was my
[00:57:18] fault and
[00:57:19] told me
[00:57:19] repeatedly
[00:57:20] that I
[00:57:21] attacked her
[00:57:21] then blacked
[00:57:22] out.
[00:57:23] I am not
[00:57:24] the kind of
[00:57:25] person that
[00:57:25] gets abused.
[00:57:26] The pictures
[00:57:27] are of
[00:57:28] after they
[00:57:28] left.
[00:57:29] The room
[00:57:29] looked similar
[00:57:30] with much
[00:57:31] more stuff
[00:57:31] strewn when
[00:57:32] they lived
[00:57:33] there.
[00:57:33] I took them
[00:57:34] with my
[00:57:35] mom's
[00:57:35] digicam so
[00:57:36] that if I
[00:57:37] needed them
[00:57:38] with the
[00:57:38] police to
[00:57:39] prove that
[00:57:40] mess they
[00:57:40] made,
[00:57:41] I would have
[00:57:42] proof.
[00:57:43] Yes,
[00:57:43] there was
[00:57:44] glare everywhere.
[00:57:44] I am still
[00:57:45] removing glare
[00:57:46] from all over.
[00:57:46] I still find
[00:57:47] random glare in
[00:57:48] my crotch all
[00:57:49] the time.
[00:57:49] This is how
[00:57:50] much it's
[00:57:51] everywhere.
[00:57:51] And oh
[00:57:52] how Jin
[00:57:53] smelled.
[00:57:53] Angel was
[00:57:54] much worse
[00:57:55] though.
[00:57:55] I don't
[00:57:56] think that
[00:57:56] girl ever
[00:57:57] bathed,
[00:57:58] they just
[00:57:58] kept adding
[00:57:58] perfume and
[00:57:59] Jin's purple
[00:58:00] skirt dress
[00:58:00] stinked to
[00:58:01] high heaven.
[00:58:02] That was
[00:58:02] until I
[00:58:03] made her
[00:58:03] other clothes
[00:58:04] to wear,
[00:58:05] even though
[00:58:05] she wore
[00:58:06] the dress
[00:58:06] skirts all
[00:58:07] the time and
[00:58:08] always kept
[00:58:08] insisting that
[00:58:09] her clothes
[00:58:09] were too
[00:58:10] large except
[00:58:10] in the tits.
[00:58:11] Whenever
[00:58:12] something was
[00:58:13] too small,
[00:58:13] it was too
[00:58:14] small for
[00:58:14] her shoulders.
[00:58:15] Whenever
[00:58:16] too large,
[00:58:16] it was too
[00:58:17] baggy around
[00:58:17] her stomach.
[00:58:18] She sure
[00:58:19] had a
[00:58:19] lewd idea
[00:58:20] of what
[00:58:20] she looked
[00:58:21] like at
[00:58:22] 200 pounds.
[00:58:23] I think
[00:58:24] my favorite
[00:58:25] letter from
[00:58:26] this site
[00:58:27] is this
[00:58:28] one.
[00:58:29] Okay.
[00:58:30] Now this
[00:58:30] one,
[00:58:31] there is a
[00:58:31] disclaimer at
[00:58:32] the top of
[00:58:32] this that
[00:58:33] says,
[00:58:33] this following
[00:58:34] was taken
[00:58:34] from the
[00:58:34] Wayback Machine.
[00:58:35] It is posted
[00:58:36] without consent
[00:58:37] to the original
[00:58:38] author and I
[00:58:39] want to make
[00:58:39] that damn
[00:58:40] clear.
[00:58:42] Originally,
[00:58:42] I wanted to
[00:58:43] make sure
[00:58:43] that the author
[00:58:43] was protected
[00:58:44] in her identity
[00:58:45] but apparently
[00:58:46] she continued
[00:58:46] to be crazy
[00:58:47] and was right
[00:58:49] back on the
[00:58:49] Solban train.
[00:58:50] This was
[00:58:51] written in
[00:58:51] 2002.
[00:58:54] It begins,
[00:58:55] Jenova,
[00:58:56] when I became
[00:58:57] your apprentice,
[00:58:58] you told me to
[00:58:58] shut up and
[00:58:59] not argue with
[00:59:00] you.
[00:59:00] Apparently,
[00:59:01] a sorceress is
[00:59:02] supposed to be
[00:59:03] a creature who
[00:59:03] blindly accepts
[00:59:04] the opinions
[00:59:05] of the
[00:59:05] authorities even
[00:59:07] when she firmly
[00:59:07] believes that
[00:59:08] they are wrong.
[00:59:09] From this,
[00:59:10] I learned that
[00:59:10] when Jen says
[00:59:11] something I
[00:59:11] disagree with,
[00:59:12] I need to
[00:59:12] nod and make
[00:59:13] agreeing sounds
[00:59:14] anyway.
[00:59:15] Otherwise,
[00:59:16] we would have
[00:59:16] to fight
[00:59:16] every two
[00:59:17] minutes and
[00:59:17] quite frankly
[00:59:18] saying what
[00:59:18] I thought
[00:59:19] wasn't worth
[00:59:19] that hassle.
[00:59:20] I am not,
[00:59:21] however,
[00:59:22] your apprentice
[00:59:23] anymore and
[00:59:24] I am free
[00:59:25] to say what
[00:59:25] I think and
[00:59:26] I will because
[00:59:27] it's a relief
[00:59:28] to say it even
[00:59:28] if you aren't
[00:59:29] reading this.
[00:59:30] I do not
[00:59:31] actually give a
[00:59:31] crap whether
[00:59:32] you read it
[00:59:32] or not.
[00:59:33] It will hurt
[00:59:34] your feelings
[00:59:34] and you will
[00:59:35] care that it
[00:59:36] happened and
[00:59:36] I don't.
[00:59:37] You have been
[00:59:38] warned.
[00:59:39] This, be it
[00:59:41] right or wrong,
[00:59:41] is what I
[00:59:42] think.
[00:59:43] You do not
[00:59:44] look like any
[00:59:44] FF characters.
[00:59:45] You look like
[00:59:46] Jennifer Cornett.
[00:59:47] End of story.
[00:59:48] I, for that
[00:59:49] matter, look
[00:59:49] nothing like
[00:59:50] Yuna.
[00:59:50] Yuna looks
[00:59:51] Asian.
[00:59:52] You have no
[00:59:53] money because you
[00:59:54] keep spending it
[00:59:54] on things you
[00:59:55] want.
[00:59:56] Anything you
[00:59:57] want is not
[00:59:57] automatically a
[00:59:58] magical item.
[01:00:00] There may be a
[01:00:01] potential magic in
[01:00:02] everything but then
[01:00:02] there's magic in
[01:00:03] things you don't
[01:00:04] bother to look at.
[01:00:04] Things you can
[01:00:05] have for free.
[01:00:07] If something is a
[01:00:08] magical item, that
[01:00:09] doesn't mean you
[01:00:09] must own it.
[01:00:10] It would be nice
[01:00:11] if you could, but
[01:00:12] you can't always do
[01:00:13] so.
[01:00:14] I had money because
[01:00:15] I rarely bought
[01:00:16] anything for myself.
[01:00:17] Whenever I got
[01:00:18] some money, I
[01:00:18] would save it.
[01:00:19] I am not a
[01:00:20] money generator and
[01:00:21] neither are my
[01:00:22] parents.
[01:00:22] If you want to
[01:00:23] have money, you
[01:00:23] need to not
[01:00:24] spend it.
[01:00:25] I now do not
[01:00:26] have any money
[01:00:27] because I spent
[01:00:28] it on you.
[01:00:29] Poof.
[01:00:29] All gone.
[01:00:30] You still wanted
[01:00:31] more, but I
[01:00:32] didn't have any
[01:00:33] more to give you.
[01:00:35] Nobody has
[01:00:36] everything they
[01:00:37] want.
[01:00:37] Not you, not
[01:00:38] Renee, not
[01:00:39] Zach, not
[01:00:39] Tinkles, not
[01:00:40] Karina, not
[01:00:41] Britney Spears, not
[01:00:42] your parents, not
[01:00:43] Waka, not
[01:00:43] W, not even
[01:00:45] me.
[01:00:45] This is called
[01:00:46] life and it's a
[01:00:47] bitch.
[01:00:47] I love how she
[01:00:48] references George
[01:00:49] W. Bush in
[01:00:50] this.
[01:00:50] Not W.
[01:00:51] When a person, any
[01:00:52] person, gets
[01:00:53] something he
[01:00:53] wants, he
[01:00:54] immediately starts
[01:00:54] wanting something
[01:00:55] else.
[01:00:55] This is called
[01:00:56] being human.
[01:00:57] It too is a
[01:00:58] bitch.
[01:00:59] Soul bonds may
[01:01:00] be important.
[01:01:01] However, if
[01:01:01] you treat them
[01:01:02] like they're more
[01:01:02] important than
[01:01:03] what happens in
[01:01:03] the real world,
[01:01:04] then your real
[01:01:05] life will probably
[01:01:05] suffer.
[01:01:06] Your soul
[01:01:06] bound life,
[01:01:07] however, will
[01:01:07] be wonderful.
[01:01:08] If these results
[01:01:09] are unsatisfactory
[01:01:11] to you, then
[01:01:11] give your real
[01:01:12] life a priority.
[01:01:14] You, not your
[01:01:15] soul bonds, are
[01:01:16] responsible for
[01:01:17] what you do.
[01:01:18] You are
[01:01:19] responsible for
[01:01:20] what your body
[01:01:20] does.
[01:01:21] If you cannot
[01:01:21] live with what
[01:01:22] your soul bonds
[01:01:23] do, don't let
[01:01:24] them out.
[01:01:25] You are
[01:01:26] responsible for
[01:01:26] what you do
[01:01:27] even when you
[01:01:27] were puppeted.
[01:01:28] Unanimated.
[01:01:31] Having an excuse
[01:01:32] for something does
[01:01:32] not make it a
[01:01:33] good idea.
[01:01:35] If you keep
[01:01:36] talking about how
[01:01:37] good you are at
[01:01:37] everything, people
[01:01:38] will say they
[01:01:39] agree regardless of
[01:01:40] their real opinions
[01:01:41] because it's impolite
[01:01:42] not to.
[01:01:42] They will,
[01:01:43] however, eventually
[01:01:44] get sick of having
[01:01:45] to agree and start
[01:01:46] to dislike you.
[01:01:47] If you keep
[01:01:48] talking about how
[01:01:49] bad you are at
[01:01:50] everything, people
[01:01:50] will say they
[01:01:51] disagree in order
[01:01:52] to cheer you up.
[01:01:53] They will get sick
[01:01:53] of this too.
[01:01:54] Whether or not
[01:01:55] people say you're
[01:01:56] good at something
[01:01:56] does not change
[01:01:57] how good at it
[01:01:58] you actually are.
[01:01:59] If Renee does
[01:02:00] not go to class
[01:02:01] and do her
[01:02:02] homework, it will
[01:02:02] be difficult for
[01:02:03] her to pass
[01:02:04] those classes.
[01:02:04] Then she is no
[01:02:05] closer to graduating.
[01:02:06] Until she
[01:02:07] graduates, it will
[01:02:08] be hard for her
[01:02:08] to get a job
[01:02:09] that makes more
[01:02:09] money than she
[01:02:10] gets now.
[01:02:10] This is called
[01:02:11] capitalism and
[01:02:12] it is a bitch.
[01:02:13] No one likes it
[01:02:14] but no one has
[01:02:14] come up with
[01:02:15] anything that
[01:02:15] works any better.
[01:02:16] Renee always has
[01:02:17] to call off work
[01:02:19] or skip classes
[01:02:20] to give you
[01:02:21] attention.
[01:02:21] She does this
[01:02:22] because she loves
[01:02:23] you.
[01:02:24] Love makes people
[01:02:25] do irrational
[01:02:26] and reckless
[01:02:27] things.
[01:02:28] This is one of
[01:02:29] them.
[01:02:30] That does not
[01:02:30] make it a good
[01:02:31] idea.
[01:02:32] You are wrecking
[01:02:33] Renee's life.
[01:02:34] It is wrong
[01:02:35] to do so
[01:02:36] even if you
[01:02:37] have permission.
[01:02:38] Everyone needs
[01:02:39] attention.
[01:02:40] Everyone also
[01:02:41] needs to shut
[01:02:41] up sometimes
[01:02:42] and let people
[01:02:43] pay attention
[01:02:44] to something
[01:02:44] else.
[01:02:45] You stole my
[01:02:46] crystals and
[01:02:47] doujinshi.
[01:02:48] They do not
[01:02:48] belong to you
[01:02:49] and you took
[01:02:49] them and refused
[01:02:50] to give them
[01:02:51] back.
[01:02:51] They are not
[01:02:51] yours.
[01:02:52] You taught me
[01:02:53] no magic.
[01:02:54] The only thing
[01:02:54] I learned from
[01:02:55] you is how
[01:02:55] to be aware
[01:02:56] of people
[01:02:57] like you.
[01:02:58] The doctors
[01:02:58] probably cannot
[01:02:59] figure out
[01:03:00] what is wrong
[01:03:00] with you
[01:03:00] because you
[01:03:01] are not
[01:03:01] sick.
[01:03:02] If you feel
[01:03:03] like you
[01:03:04] are fat,
[01:03:04] eat less.
[01:03:05] Do not whine
[01:03:06] about it.
[01:03:06] No one else
[01:03:07] cares whether
[01:03:08] or not you
[01:03:09] are fat.
[01:03:09] It is ridiculous
[01:03:10] to expect
[01:03:11] others to
[01:03:12] never talk
[01:03:12] about grocery
[01:03:13] bills because
[01:03:13] of the chance
[01:03:14] that you might
[01:03:15] be able to
[01:03:15] reinterpret as
[01:03:16] a criticism
[01:03:17] of your eating
[01:03:18] habits.
[01:03:19] Most people
[01:03:20] do not spend
[01:03:21] as much on
[01:03:21] food as you
[01:03:22] do.
[01:03:22] Since you
[01:03:23] barely pay
[01:03:23] your other
[01:03:24] bills,
[01:03:24] this is not
[01:03:25] a good idea.
[01:03:26] Healthy
[01:03:26] relationships
[01:03:27] do not
[01:03:27] require
[01:03:27] fighting.
[01:03:28] Healthy
[01:03:29] relationships
[01:03:29] with
[01:03:29] parents
[01:03:30] or
[01:03:30] love
[01:03:30] possibly
[01:03:31] do
[01:03:31] because
[01:03:32] you
[01:03:32] are
[01:03:32] required
[01:03:32] to agree
[01:03:33] in order to
[01:03:34] decide what
[01:03:34] to do and
[01:03:35] this creates
[01:03:35] conflict.
[01:03:36] Friends do
[01:03:36] not have to
[01:03:37] agree all the
[01:03:38] time so they
[01:03:38] do not have
[01:03:39] to fight.
[01:03:39] I do not
[01:03:40] have to fight
[01:03:41] with a vast
[01:03:41] majority of
[01:03:42] my friends.
[01:03:43] These friendships
[01:03:43] are nevertheless
[01:03:44] healthy.
[01:03:45] You fight
[01:03:46] with everyone.
[01:03:47] A good number
[01:03:47] of these relationships
[01:03:48] are not healthy.
[01:03:49] If you don't
[01:03:50] want to have
[01:03:51] fights,
[01:03:51] stop picking them.
[01:03:52] If you don't
[01:03:53] want everyone
[01:03:53] to treat you
[01:03:54] like the bad
[01:03:54] guy,
[01:03:55] don't act
[01:03:55] like one.
[01:03:56] Taking orders
[01:03:57] from Ultimecia
[01:03:58] might not be
[01:03:58] the best idea.
[01:04:00] People only
[01:04:01] feel sorry for
[01:04:01] you so many
[01:04:02] times.
[01:04:02] If your life
[01:04:03] is bad,
[01:04:03] change it so
[01:04:04] it isn't bad
[01:04:04] anymore.
[01:04:05] Having bad
[01:04:06] things in your
[01:04:07] past is not
[01:04:07] excused behavior
[01:04:08] in the present.
[01:04:09] Life lessons
[01:04:10] are not the same
[01:04:10] as magic lessons
[01:04:11] but you mix
[01:04:12] them up.
[01:04:13] I never signed
[01:04:13] up to take
[01:04:14] life lessons
[01:04:14] from you.
[01:04:15] You are not
[01:04:15] very good at
[01:04:16] life.
[01:04:18] This is your
[01:04:19] own problem
[01:04:20] but you should
[01:04:20] not try to
[01:04:21] teach other
[01:04:21] people how
[01:04:22] to live
[01:04:22] because you
[01:04:23] yourself do
[01:04:24] not know.
[01:04:25] You are not
[01:04:25] my best friend
[01:04:26] no matter how
[01:04:27] many times you
[01:04:27] said you were
[01:04:28] and no matter
[01:04:28] how many times
[01:04:29] I had to agree
[01:04:29] with you so
[01:04:30] as not to
[01:04:30] upset you.
[01:04:31] You are a
[01:04:32] good friend
[01:04:32] and were
[01:04:32] important to
[01:04:33] me but you
[01:04:33] were not my
[01:04:34] best friend.
[01:04:35] Someone else
[01:04:35] is.
[01:04:36] If you had
[01:04:36] not been
[01:04:37] important to
[01:04:37] me I would
[01:04:38] not have
[01:04:38] even bothered
[01:04:39] to agree
[01:04:39] with you.
[01:04:41] Proclaiming
[01:04:41] yourself a
[01:04:42] bitch does
[01:04:43] not excuse
[01:04:43] being one.
[01:04:45] I never
[01:04:45] claimed to
[01:04:46] be the
[01:04:46] sweet and
[01:04:47] innocent one.
[01:04:48] You were
[01:04:48] the one who
[01:04:48] called me
[01:04:48] that.
[01:04:49] In fact I
[01:04:50] specifically
[01:04:50] said I do
[01:04:51] not think of
[01:04:52] myself as
[01:04:52] being that
[01:04:53] way.
[01:04:53] Nobody is
[01:04:54] an archetype
[01:04:54] in real life.
[01:04:55] You are
[01:04:56] the one who
[01:04:56] betrays your
[01:04:56] friends not
[01:04:57] vice versa.
[01:04:58] Most of
[01:04:59] our mutual
[01:04:59] acquaintances
[01:05:00] do not
[01:05:00] trust you at
[01:05:01] least that's
[01:05:01] what they've
[01:05:02] told me.
[01:05:02] No one is
[01:05:03] going to
[01:05:03] trust you if
[01:05:04] you keep
[01:05:04] crying wolf.
[01:05:05] You lie a
[01:05:06] lot and
[01:05:06] rarely even
[01:05:07] stick to one
[01:05:08] consistent
[01:05:08] story.
[01:05:09] A lot of
[01:05:10] people notice
[01:05:10] that you're
[01:05:11] a liar even
[01:05:11] if they do
[01:05:12] not say so
[01:05:12] to your
[01:05:13] face.
[01:05:13] I do
[01:05:14] not quote
[01:05:14] want to go
[01:05:15] to Penn
[01:05:15] State anyway.
[01:05:17] Telling someone
[01:05:18] that they want
[01:05:18] to do something
[01:05:19] doesn't make
[01:05:19] them want to
[01:05:20] do it.
[01:05:20] It makes
[01:05:20] them think
[01:05:21] you're wrong.
[01:05:22] You are
[01:05:22] more childish
[01:05:23] than any
[01:05:24] adult I
[01:05:25] know.
[01:05:25] You act
[01:05:26] like you're
[01:05:26] about 12
[01:05:26] except when
[01:05:27] you're acting
[01:05:27] like you're
[01:05:28] two.
[01:05:29] You do
[01:05:30] not know
[01:05:30] anything about
[01:05:31] anyone else's
[01:05:32] soul bonds
[01:05:32] except maybe
[01:05:33] their name
[01:05:33] hairstyle on a
[01:05:34] rough sketch
[01:05:34] of their past.
[01:05:35] You look
[01:05:36] silly when
[01:05:37] you pretend
[01:05:37] you do know
[01:05:38] about other
[01:05:39] soul bonds.
[01:05:39] Most of the
[01:05:40] time you
[01:05:40] guess things
[01:05:41] and you guessed
[01:05:41] wrong.
[01:05:42] You have a
[01:05:43] sexual relationship
[01:05:44] with a girl.
[01:05:44] The term
[01:05:45] lesbian applies
[01:05:46] to your
[01:05:46] relationship.
[01:05:47] It is
[01:05:48] unreasonable of
[01:05:49] you to get
[01:05:49] upset if
[01:05:50] someone calls
[01:05:50] you one.
[01:05:51] You are
[01:05:51] one.
[01:05:52] You are
[01:05:53] the only
[01:05:53] one acting
[01:05:54] like there
[01:05:54] is something
[01:05:55] wrong with
[01:05:55] it.
[01:05:55] Lesbian
[01:05:56] is not
[01:05:56] a criticism.
[01:05:57] It is
[01:05:57] a fact.
[01:05:58] No one
[01:05:59] has criticized
[01:05:59] you.
[01:06:00] Not
[01:06:00] everything
[01:06:01] that is
[01:06:01] said about
[01:06:02] you is
[01:06:02] criticism
[01:06:03] or praise.
[01:06:04] Some of
[01:06:04] it is
[01:06:05] just
[01:06:05] fact.
[01:06:06] You take
[01:06:06] everything
[01:06:07] personally
[01:06:07] regardless
[01:06:08] of whether
[01:06:08] or not
[01:06:09] people are
[01:06:09] trying to
[01:06:09] criticize or
[01:06:10] praise you
[01:06:10] because of
[01:06:11] this you
[01:06:11] feel hurt
[01:06:12] whenever anybody
[01:06:13] says anything.
[01:06:14] If you want
[01:06:14] to stop
[01:06:15] feeling hurt
[01:06:15] stop taking
[01:06:16] things personally
[01:06:17] not.
[01:06:18] Everything
[01:06:18] people say
[01:06:19] is designed
[01:06:20] to make
[01:06:20] Jen feel
[01:06:21] good or
[01:06:21] bad.
[01:06:22] In fact
[01:06:22] very little
[01:06:23] of what
[01:06:23] is said
[01:06:24] is designed
[01:06:24] to make
[01:06:25] Jen feel
[01:06:25] good or
[01:06:26] bad.
[01:06:26] Most
[01:06:27] people
[01:06:27] avoid
[01:06:27] making
[01:06:28] personal
[01:06:28] statements
[01:06:29] most of
[01:06:30] the time.
[01:06:31] This does
[01:06:31] not apply
[01:06:32] when people
[01:06:32] are angry.
[01:06:34] Many
[01:06:34] people are
[01:06:35] angry at
[01:06:36] you.
[01:06:36] Most
[01:06:37] of it
[01:06:37] is your
[01:06:38] fault.
[01:06:39] I realize
[01:06:40] that you
[01:06:40] will take
[01:06:40] all of
[01:06:41] this
[01:06:41] personally
[01:06:42] should
[01:06:42] you
[01:06:42] ever
[01:06:42] read
[01:06:43] it.
[01:06:43] You
[01:06:43] will
[01:06:43] feel
[01:06:44] bad.
[01:06:44] Anyone
[01:06:45] would.
[01:06:46] I am
[01:06:46] not
[01:06:46] that
[01:06:46] stupid.
[01:06:47] If you
[01:06:47] didn't
[01:06:48] want
[01:06:48] that to
[01:06:48] happen
[01:06:48] you
[01:07:05] know
[01:07:08] that's
[01:07:09] just
[01:07:09] how
[01:07:10] it
[01:07:10] is.
[01:07:11] It
[01:07:11] is good
[01:07:12] that people
[01:07:13] were able
[01:07:13] to not
[01:07:14] only get
[01:07:15] out from
[01:07:15] under
[01:07:16] this
[01:07:16] woman
[01:07:16] but also
[01:07:16] to post
[01:07:18] things like
[01:07:18] this.
[01:07:18] Big
[01:07:18] screeds
[01:07:19] you know
[01:07:19] like this
[01:07:20] is
[01:07:20] terrible
[01:07:21] you're
[01:07:22] a terrible
[01:07:22] person
[01:07:23] because
[01:07:23] yeah
[01:07:24] Jen's
[01:07:24] a terrible
[01:07:25] person.
[01:07:25] Absolutely.
[01:07:26] There's
[01:07:27] still so
[01:07:27] much I
[01:07:27] mean like
[01:07:29] letters
[01:07:29] upon
[01:07:29] letters
[01:07:30] at that
[01:07:30] site
[01:07:30] but like
[01:07:31] what a
[01:07:32] freaky
[01:07:33] deaky
[01:07:33] situation
[01:07:34] and I
[01:07:35] mentioned
[01:07:35] it last
[01:07:35] week
[01:07:36] that she's
[01:07:36] still
[01:07:36] doing it.
[01:07:37] She's
[01:07:37] still out
[01:07:37] there.
[01:07:38] Yeah.
[01:07:38] Twerking
[01:07:39] on the
[01:07:40] Hannibal
[01:07:41] fandom.
[01:07:42] That's
[01:07:42] right.
[01:07:42] Yep.
[01:07:42] Stunting
[01:07:43] on them.
[01:07:45] The more
[01:07:45] I read
[01:07:46] about this
[01:07:46] and the
[01:07:47] more I
[01:07:47] sit here
[01:07:48] with these
[01:07:48] stories
[01:07:48] the more
[01:07:49] I'm just
[01:07:49] like she's
[01:07:50] not the
[01:07:50] only one.
[01:07:51] She can't
[01:07:51] be the
[01:07:52] only one.
[01:07:52] Right.
[01:07:53] There's
[01:07:53] predatory
[01:07:54] and weird
[01:07:54] people
[01:07:54] in all
[01:07:55] these
[01:07:55] different
[01:07:55] fandoms.
[01:07:56] There's
[01:07:56] predatory
[01:07:56] and weird
[01:07:56] people.
[01:07:57] This is
[01:07:57] just the
[01:07:58] most publicly
[01:07:59] known
[01:07:59] one at
[01:07:59] least as
[01:08:00] far as
[01:08:00] I know
[01:08:02] and I'm
[01:08:03] just deeply
[01:08:04] fascinated.
[01:08:04] To this extent
[01:08:05] Yeah.
[01:08:06] It's fucking
[01:08:06] crazy.
[01:08:07] I remember
[01:08:08] first reading
[01:08:08] about this
[01:08:09] almost 20
[01:08:09] years ago
[01:08:10] and thinking
[01:08:10] what the
[01:08:10] fuck
[01:08:11] and now
[01:08:11] it still
[01:08:12] is as
[01:08:13] confusing
[01:08:14] and upsetting
[01:08:14] and as
[01:08:15] weird
[01:08:15] as I
[01:08:16] remember
[01:08:16] it
[01:08:16] then.
[01:08:17] I guess
[01:08:17] it's just
[01:08:18] because I've
[01:08:18] never been
[01:08:18] in that
[01:08:19] situation
[01:08:19] but like
[01:08:19] how do
[01:08:20] you let
[01:08:20] yourself
[01:08:21] get in so
[01:08:21] deep
[01:08:21] with someone
[01:08:22] like that?
[01:08:23] How do
[01:08:23] you let
[01:08:24] this narcissist
[01:08:25] get their
[01:08:26] claws in you
[01:08:27] and just
[01:08:27] tear you up?
[01:08:29] Because
[01:08:29] $80,000
[01:08:31] on bullshit?
[01:08:32] The Franklin
[01:08:33] Mint
[01:08:33] fucking
[01:08:35] crystals?
[01:08:36] The holders
[01:08:37] and shit?
[01:08:38] Yeah.
[01:08:38] Just all of
[01:08:39] it sounds
[01:08:39] so fucking
[01:08:40] insane.
[01:08:41] Physical
[01:08:41] abuse
[01:08:42] and like
[01:08:42] having to
[01:08:43] be there
[01:08:43] when they're
[01:08:44] fucking
[01:08:44] their girlfriend
[01:08:45] and like
[01:08:45] getting mad
[01:08:46] about being
[01:08:46] called a
[01:08:47] lesbian
[01:08:48] is like
[01:08:48] there's just
[01:08:49] so much
[01:08:50] psychosexual
[01:08:51] weird shit
[01:08:52] going on
[01:08:53] and like
[01:08:53] the soul
[01:08:54] bonding thing
[01:08:55] is like
[01:08:55] okay fine
[01:08:56] people you
[01:08:56] know
[01:08:56] woo woo
[01:08:57] whatever
[01:08:57] they want
[01:08:58] in their
[01:08:58] heads
[01:08:58] but like
[01:08:59] forcing it
[01:09:00] on other
[01:09:00] people
[01:09:00] is different
[01:09:01] trying to
[01:09:02] activate
[01:09:02] hidden
[01:09:03] memories
[01:09:03] like
[01:09:04] you know
[01:09:04] what
[01:09:04] you can
[01:09:05] believe
[01:09:05] what you
[01:09:05] want
[01:09:05] but you're
[01:09:06] trying
[01:09:06] trying to
[01:09:07] make someone
[01:09:08] else
[01:09:08] remember
[01:09:09] things that
[01:09:09] they clearly
[01:09:10] don't
[01:09:10] have any
[01:09:11] kind of
[01:09:11] you know
[01:09:12] past life
[01:09:13] regression
[01:09:13] need for
[01:09:14] right
[01:09:14] yeah
[01:09:15] it's just
[01:09:15] it's
[01:09:16] this
[01:09:16] interesting
[01:09:17] artifact
[01:09:17] from a
[01:09:18] time
[01:09:18] when the
[01:09:19] internet
[01:09:19] felt like
[01:09:20] it could
[01:09:21] show you
[01:09:21] something
[01:09:22] you never
[01:09:23] imagined
[01:09:23] and boy
[01:09:24] I never
[01:09:25] in all
[01:09:26] of my
[01:09:26] thoughts
[01:09:27] ever came
[01:09:27] up with
[01:09:28] the idea
[01:09:28] of like
[01:09:28] a weird
[01:09:29] pseudo cult
[01:09:30] and like
[01:09:31] crappy
[01:09:32] cheap
[01:09:33] apartments
[01:09:33] based around
[01:09:34] someone's
[01:09:35] really bizarre
[01:09:36] misinterpretation
[01:09:37] of like
[01:09:38] Final Fantasy
[01:09:39] lore
[01:09:39] yeah
[01:09:40] and again
[01:09:41] I will
[01:09:42] recommend
[01:09:42] to our
[01:09:43] listeners
[01:09:43] dig
[01:09:44] through
[01:09:44] Demon Sushi's
[01:09:45] website
[01:09:46] Demon
[01:09:46] Sushi
[01:09:47] just search
[01:09:48] that
[01:09:49] you should
[01:09:49] get that
[01:09:50] first hit
[01:09:50] because there's
[01:09:51] a lot more
[01:09:51] there
[01:09:52] that I mean
[01:09:52] I've been
[01:09:53] very selective
[01:09:54] about what
[01:09:54] we're
[01:09:54] what we're
[01:09:55] reading
[01:09:55] and even
[01:09:56] that
[01:09:56] I'm like
[01:09:57] this is
[01:09:57] this is
[01:09:58] too much
[01:09:58] yeah
[01:09:59] it's just
[01:09:59] so much
[01:09:59] it's a
[01:10:00] creepy story
[01:10:01] in a way
[01:10:02] that like
[01:10:02] Hannah Arendt
[01:10:03] banality of
[01:10:04] evil type
[01:10:05] of style
[01:10:05] yeah
[01:10:05] it's just
[01:10:06] it's a
[01:10:07] broken
[01:10:08] person
[01:10:08] wanting to
[01:10:10] create
[01:10:10] something
[01:10:11] of their
[01:10:11] own
[01:10:11] but winds
[01:10:12] up drawing
[01:10:13] in other
[01:10:13] broken
[01:10:13] people
[01:10:14] and
[01:10:15] fucking
[01:10:16] their lives
[01:10:16] up
[01:10:17] yeah
[01:10:17] it's a
[01:10:18] cycle
[01:10:18] unfortunately
[01:10:19] like I said
[01:10:20] I don't
[01:10:20] think
[01:10:20] she's
[01:10:21] the only
[01:10:21] one
[01:10:21] there's
[01:10:22] there's
[01:10:22] gotta be
[01:10:23] others
[01:10:23] we just
[01:10:24] don't know
[01:10:24] about
[01:10:24] them
[01:10:25] there's
[01:10:25] probably
[01:10:26] one
[01:10:26] down the
[01:10:27] street
[01:10:27] somewhere
[01:10:27] somebody's
[01:10:28] like
[01:10:28] yeah
[01:10:28] I'm
[01:10:28] Nathan
[01:10:29] Drake
[01:10:29] oh
[01:10:30] Jesus
[01:10:30] Christ
[01:10:31] you know
[01:10:32] in my
[01:10:33] past life
[01:10:34] I was also
[01:10:35] the hunter
[01:10:36] from Bloodborne
[01:10:37] sure
[01:10:37] whatever
[01:10:38] staggering
[01:10:39] stuff
[01:10:40] well Brian
[01:10:41] you want
[01:10:41] to see
[01:10:41] something
[01:10:42] gross
[01:10:42] yeah
[01:10:43] sure
[01:10:43] let's
[01:10:44] do it
[01:10:45] that's
[01:10:46] right
[01:10:46] it's
[01:10:47] shock.jpg
[01:10:48] and now
[01:10:50] the moment
[01:10:51] you've all
[01:10:52] been waiting
[01:10:52] for
[01:10:53] shock.jpg
[01:10:55] yeah
[01:10:57] yet another
[01:10:59] 4chan
[01:10:59] discovery
[01:11:00] I've been
[01:11:01] calling this
[01:11:01] one wall
[01:11:01] shards
[01:11:02] eight seconds
[01:11:02] long
[01:11:03] I wonder
[01:11:04] what's gonna
[01:11:04] happen here
[01:11:05] so before
[01:11:06] this is even
[01:11:07] really started
[01:11:08] there's a
[01:11:08] posterior
[01:11:09] facing the
[01:11:10] wall of a
[01:11:11] public restroom
[01:11:12] the posterior
[01:11:13] is bare
[01:11:14] got a nice
[01:11:15] little side
[01:11:15] profile here
[01:11:16] I don't know
[01:11:17] I wonder
[01:11:18] if just like
[01:11:19] a
[01:11:19] I bet
[01:11:20] something
[01:11:20] happy
[01:11:21] is gonna
[01:11:21] happen
[01:11:22] okay
[01:11:22] well let's
[01:11:22] find out
[01:11:28] that's the
[01:11:28] part that
[01:11:29] got me
[01:11:29] so
[01:11:30] so as
[01:11:31] Brian mentioned
[01:11:32] the shapely
[01:11:32] posterior is
[01:11:33] pointed at
[01:11:34] the wall
[01:11:34] an eruption
[01:11:35] of shit
[01:11:36] just slides
[01:11:38] right out
[01:11:38] it just
[01:11:38] absolutely
[01:11:39] cakes the
[01:11:40] wall
[01:11:40] it is
[01:11:41] stuck to
[01:11:42] the wall
[01:11:44] and I
[01:11:45] did that
[01:11:46] thing this
[01:11:47] was gonna
[01:11:47] belong to
[01:11:47] a young
[01:11:48] woman
[01:11:48] no
[01:11:49] who then
[01:11:49] faces the
[01:11:50] camera
[01:11:51] yeah
[01:11:51] with her
[01:11:52] eyes really
[01:11:53] wide open
[01:11:54] and just
[01:11:54] kind of
[01:11:55] in a hush
[01:11:55] voice
[01:11:55] what the
[01:11:56] fuck
[01:11:57] yeah I
[01:11:57] don't know
[01:11:58] what she
[01:11:58] was expecting
[01:11:58] yeah
[01:12:00] was there
[01:12:01] something else
[01:12:01] supposed to
[01:12:02] happen
[01:12:02] was it just
[01:12:03] supposed to
[01:12:03] like
[01:12:03] log out
[01:12:04] I don't
[01:12:05] know
[01:12:05] was there
[01:12:05] was there
[01:12:06] gonna be
[01:12:06] like a
[01:12:07] Lincoln log
[01:12:08] turd
[01:12:08] coming
[01:12:08] I don't
[01:12:09] know
[01:12:10] maybe it
[01:12:11] was just
[01:12:11] a fart
[01:12:11] that went
[01:12:12] too far
[01:12:12] you know
[01:12:13] like you
[01:12:13] don't really
[01:12:14] know
[01:12:14] amazing
[01:12:15] but the
[01:12:15] look
[01:12:15] the look
[01:12:16] on her
[01:12:16] face
[01:12:18] yeah
[01:12:18] she knows
[01:12:19] immediately
[01:12:20] this is like
[01:12:20] what happens
[01:12:21] when you
[01:12:21] accidentally
[01:12:21] rear in
[01:12:22] someone
[01:12:23] at a red
[01:12:24] light
[01:12:24] yeah
[01:12:25] that same
[01:12:26] look
[01:12:26] what the
[01:12:27] fuck
[01:12:28] that's always
[01:12:28] green
[01:12:29] and just
[01:12:30] it's almost
[01:12:31] as the
[01:12:32] I mean I
[01:12:32] don't know
[01:12:32] what she
[01:12:33] expected
[01:12:33] was gonna
[01:12:34] happen
[01:12:34] that's the
[01:12:35] part that
[01:12:35] baffles me
[01:12:35] it's like
[01:12:36] okay I'm
[01:12:36] pointing my
[01:12:36] ass at the
[01:12:37] wall
[01:12:39] I did
[01:12:41] reverse the
[01:12:42] video for a
[01:12:42] second there
[01:12:43] you know she's
[01:12:43] pulled up her
[01:12:44] sweater to like
[01:12:45] not get
[01:12:45] anything on
[01:12:46] her but
[01:12:47] clearly does
[01:12:48] because it
[01:12:48] splashes
[01:12:50] oh yeah
[01:12:52] with a little
[01:12:53] lip piercing
[01:12:53] you know like
[01:12:54] oh
[01:12:56] and the best
[01:12:57] part is that
[01:12:58] the shit
[01:12:59] hits the
[01:12:59] wall
[01:13:01] bounces off
[01:13:02] of it
[01:13:02] gets on the
[01:13:03] handrail
[01:13:03] because she's
[01:13:04] clearly in
[01:13:04] either a
[01:13:05] single stall
[01:13:06] or in the
[01:13:07] handicap stall
[01:13:07] which is
[01:13:08] which is like
[01:13:08] the penthouse
[01:13:09] suite of the
[01:13:10] bathroom
[01:13:10] absolutely
[01:13:11] it's where
[01:13:11] you gotta go
[01:13:12] but then also
[01:13:13] not only the
[01:13:13] handrail but
[01:13:14] then it also
[01:13:14] gets all over
[01:13:15] the toilet paper
[01:13:16] dispenser
[01:13:17] yeah it just
[01:13:18] come on
[01:13:19] yeah it's
[01:13:20] a messy thing
[01:13:21] here
[01:13:22] I do have to
[01:13:23] say without
[01:13:24] the what the
[01:13:25] fuck and the
[01:13:26] look at the
[01:13:26] camera it would
[01:13:27] have been rather
[01:13:27] unremarkable but
[01:13:28] this one
[01:13:29] really elevates it
[01:13:30] did you just do
[01:13:31] an enema
[01:13:31] what does
[01:13:32] have I have to
[01:13:33] know I have to
[01:13:34] know the context
[01:13:34] but I don't
[01:13:35] this is all I've
[01:13:36] got I've got
[01:13:37] eight seconds
[01:13:37] of video to
[01:13:38] go on and
[01:13:39] it is it's
[01:13:40] shocking which
[01:13:42] I know is
[01:13:44] obvious given
[01:13:44] the name of
[01:13:45] the segment but
[01:13:45] it is still just
[01:13:46] like yeah I
[01:13:47] don't think I've
[01:13:48] ever had a blow
[01:13:48] out that bad in
[01:13:49] the bathroom thank
[01:13:50] God again I
[01:13:51] wasn't also
[01:13:51] pointing my ass
[01:13:52] to the wall
[01:13:53] though so you
[01:13:54] know what don't
[01:13:55] brag I've you're
[01:13:57] right I used to
[01:13:58] when I had a much
[01:13:59] worse diet used to
[01:13:59] call it slapping
[01:14:00] the bowl oh
[01:14:01] sure just just a
[01:14:03] real solid right
[01:14:05] and you get a
[01:14:07] little water
[01:14:07] splashed up right
[01:14:08] a little chilly
[01:14:09] yeah you're making
[01:14:13] chilly yeah in the
[01:14:14] this is this is the
[01:14:16] crock pot toilet
[01:14:17] hi hi this is
[01:14:19] Johnny Knoxville
[01:14:20] yeah jackass this
[01:14:21] is a crock pot
[01:14:22] toilet
[01:14:24] is this Dave
[01:14:25] England is
[01:14:26] yep
[01:14:28] sitting there
[01:14:29] shitting in a
[01:14:30] crock pot
[01:14:30] and then they
[01:14:31] it's the crock
[01:14:32] pot toilet
[01:14:33] and then they
[01:14:33] leave it out you
[01:14:34] know yeah
[01:14:35] you know I've
[01:14:36] had bathroom
[01:14:36] emergencies and
[01:14:37] whatnot but I
[01:14:38] don't think I've
[01:14:38] ever done that
[01:14:40] thank God I
[01:14:41] don't think I've
[01:14:41] ever even gotten
[01:14:42] to the floor I'm
[01:14:42] very you know
[01:14:43] very proud of that
[01:14:44] fact here here
[01:14:45] yeah look who
[01:14:46] shits right
[01:14:47] exactly I do it
[01:14:50] right sitting down
[01:14:50] and everything
[01:14:51] I'm housebroken
[01:14:52] like this lady
[01:14:54] like yeah
[01:14:56] so this is like
[01:14:57] the opposite of
[01:14:58] pee pee monsters
[01:14:58] poo poo monster
[01:14:59] exactly see but
[01:15:01] this is the only
[01:15:01] one I've ever seen
[01:15:02] of her so until I
[01:15:03] till I see her
[01:15:04] again I can't you
[01:15:05] know I can't put
[01:15:06] that pee pee
[01:15:07] monster was our
[01:15:07] first episode
[01:15:08] wasn't it I think
[01:15:09] it was our first
[01:15:09] shock dot jpeg
[01:15:10] or one the first
[01:15:12] no because we did
[01:15:13] pee pee monster as
[01:15:14] as the main topic
[01:15:15] of our first episode
[01:15:16] that's amazing
[01:15:17] that yeah yeah
[01:15:18] along with Dan
[01:15:19] Quinn yeah
[01:15:19] well Dan Quinn
[01:15:20] was one we didn't
[01:15:22] release and and
[01:15:23] then there's also
[01:15:25] fat man we did
[01:15:27] one I was thinking
[01:15:27] about the rabbit
[01:15:28] that they can't
[01:15:29] use the half a
[01:15:30] fluffer
[01:15:31] the half a fluffer
[01:15:33] the half a fluffer
[01:15:34] they had to change
[01:15:36] the name
[01:15:38] because if you
[01:15:38] would search
[01:15:39] if you would
[01:15:40] search for the
[01:15:40] name of it
[01:15:41] it was this
[01:15:42] giant fat guy
[01:15:43] eating the bunny
[01:15:48] so Cadbury
[01:15:49] changed the name
[01:15:52] you know what
[01:15:53] on our third year
[01:15:54] anniversary I'm
[01:15:55] going to make
[01:15:55] that a promise
[01:15:56] to our listeners
[01:15:57] we're going to
[01:15:57] revisit the fat
[01:15:58] bad episode
[01:15:59] we'll have to
[01:15:59] really do it
[01:16:00] right this time
[01:16:00] fat man here
[01:16:02] a major corporation
[01:16:06] major confection
[01:16:07] corporation had to
[01:16:08] change the name of
[01:16:09] one of their
[01:16:09] premier products
[01:16:10] yeah because of a
[01:16:13] giant guy eating
[01:16:15] shirtless oh yeah
[01:16:16] and moaning the
[01:16:17] whole time
[01:16:18] oh yeah
[01:16:20] oh yeah
[01:16:24] fat man here
[01:16:27] well on that
[01:16:29] note I think it
[01:16:29] is time for a
[01:16:30] breath mint
[01:16:31] Brian oh
[01:16:31] it's time for your
[01:16:33] mom's favorite part
[01:16:35] of the show
[01:16:35] it's time for the
[01:16:37] breath mint
[01:16:38] breath mint time
[01:16:40] uh what you got
[01:16:42] I have a book
[01:16:44] that I finished
[01:16:44] in one day
[01:16:46] wow that is a
[01:16:48] record for me
[01:16:50] I don't usually
[01:16:51] read things that
[01:16:51] fast but I was
[01:16:52] entranced by it
[01:16:54] really great little
[01:16:55] novel by a lady
[01:16:56] named Helen Phillips
[01:16:57] books called hum
[01:16:58] and I picked it up
[01:17:00] based strictly on
[01:17:02] the blurb I
[01:17:03] talked like last
[01:17:04] week I talked
[01:17:04] about earlier
[01:17:05] Stephen King
[01:17:05] blurbed this or
[01:17:06] that and this
[01:17:07] one got me Jeff
[01:17:08] Vandermeer blurbed
[01:17:10] about this this
[01:17:11] Helen Phillips book
[01:17:12] and I said well
[01:17:13] if Jeff likes it I
[01:17:15] guess I gotta read
[01:17:15] it sure and he
[01:17:17] did not steer me
[01:17:18] wrong because this
[01:17:19] book got me and
[01:17:20] like hit me right
[01:17:21] in the core so the
[01:17:22] basic premise is
[01:17:23] that there's a young
[01:17:25] woman out of work
[01:17:26] she's got a child
[01:17:27] at home husband
[01:17:28] that does basically
[01:17:29] just gig work
[01:17:30] yeah she gets
[01:17:31] this offer they're
[01:17:33] gonna give her this
[01:17:33] large sum of money
[01:17:34] to undergo an
[01:17:36] experimental facial
[01:17:38] surgery so that
[01:17:39] she's not recognized
[01:17:40] by facial recognition
[01:17:42] technology right
[01:17:43] she so she undergoes
[01:17:44] this surgery on her
[01:17:46] face right the
[01:17:48] robots in this book
[01:17:49] called hums because
[01:17:50] they're not humans
[01:17:51] but the hums don't
[01:17:53] recognize her anymore
[01:17:53] so she has to use her
[01:17:54] fingerprint to do
[01:17:56] purchases or whatever
[01:17:57] so she gets home and
[01:17:58] she's like yeah I'm
[01:17:59] gonna I'm gonna do this
[01:18:01] thing for my family I'm
[01:18:02] gonna give them this
[01:18:03] wonderful experience I
[01:18:04] finally have some money
[01:18:05] I'm gonna treat them
[01:18:06] right I'm gonna go book a
[01:18:07] trip to the botanical
[01:18:09] garden now in my
[01:18:11] neighborhood the
[01:18:11] botanical garden is
[01:18:12] literally just a bunch
[01:18:13] of plants and some
[01:18:14] nice sculptures yeah
[01:18:15] but in this not too
[01:18:17] distant future in this
[01:18:19] book a botanical garden
[01:18:21] is a nature retreat I
[01:18:23] mean waterfalls and
[01:18:24] like there's a huge it's
[01:18:26] all this walled off area
[01:18:27] kind of separated from the
[01:18:29] the city and during this
[01:18:30] trip her children take
[01:18:33] off they go missing and
[01:18:35] it's this whole thing and
[01:18:37] it's all caught on these
[01:18:38] cameras and it's posted to
[01:18:40] the net and she becomes
[01:18:41] this monster of the week
[01:18:43] for the people on the
[01:18:45] internet she becomes the
[01:18:46] main character folks and
[01:18:48] then has to fight to get
[01:18:49] her kids back it's a
[01:18:52] fascinating concept and it
[01:18:54] plays out in I mean it
[01:18:56] feels very real it feels
[01:18:57] like it's not that far from
[01:19:00] where we are now and I
[01:19:02] think you know Helen
[01:19:03] Phillips really gets into
[01:19:04] this paranoid parent
[01:19:06] mindset really well and
[01:19:08] the characters are very
[01:19:10] well fleshed out I even
[01:19:11] like the the husband
[01:19:12] gem because he's just
[01:19:14] like well I know I got
[01:19:15] all these gig works lined
[01:19:17] up I just I gotta do
[01:19:18] them consistently gets
[01:19:19] you know five stars on
[01:19:20] the gigs but he's like
[01:19:21] yeah all I did was put
[01:19:22] out mousetraps and take
[01:19:23] the dead mice away but
[01:19:25] people are paying me for
[01:19:26] it so it just feels like
[01:19:27] this kind of like guy
[01:19:29] that's like well he kind
[01:19:29] of lucked into a thing
[01:19:30] that he's okay at it's it
[01:19:33] hit me at the right time
[01:19:35] right in the sweet spot
[01:19:37] and it just a book like
[01:19:40] that is very rare that's
[01:19:42] all I'm gonna say
[01:19:42] sounds really
[01:19:43] interesting cool yeah it's
[01:19:45] just that kind of well
[01:19:47] it's sort of the future
[01:19:49] but they're also future
[01:19:50] yeah but they're also
[01:19:51] commentating on things
[01:19:52] that are present-day
[01:19:54] concerns because they
[01:19:55] were writing the book
[01:19:56] during the pandemic and
[01:19:57] they include an entire
[01:19:58] appendix of news stories
[01:20:00] that are referenced in the
[01:20:02] book that happened in 2019
[01:20:05] but this book is set in
[01:20:06] like 2032 so kind of a
[01:20:09] neat little that's
[01:20:10] interesting concept yeah
[01:20:11] I really enjoyed it I
[01:20:12] looking forward to reading
[01:20:13] some more of her work
[01:20:14] about yourself I got a
[01:20:15] couple for you the first
[01:20:16] one I want to talk about
[01:20:17] is The Substance
[01:20:18] oh I watched this yay
[01:20:20] I thought that was a
[01:20:22] really interesting real
[01:20:23] feel-good movie really
[01:20:26] really just just the
[01:20:29] whole third act just
[01:20:31] really makes you feel
[01:20:32] good about being alive
[01:20:33] yeah set my toes
[01:20:34] tapping yeah for sure
[01:20:35] but uh my my main issue
[01:20:37] with the movie is that I
[01:20:38] feel like that first act
[01:20:40] there is no subtlety it
[01:20:43] is is playing to the
[01:20:44] cheap seats its message
[01:20:46] and its thesis and it's
[01:20:49] fine because I in a way
[01:20:51] because I I feel like
[01:20:53] what it's saying or
[01:20:54] trying to say is
[01:20:56] entertaining and it's
[01:20:57] presented as interesting
[01:20:58] argument but oh boy was I
[01:21:01] being like yeah uh-huh I
[01:21:03] get that but also rolling
[01:21:04] my eyes a lot it's that
[01:21:06] Gareth Marenghi's dark
[01:21:07] place scene about I know
[01:21:08] writers who use subtexts
[01:21:10] and they're cowards yeah
[01:21:11] yeah it is exactly that
[01:21:14] for the first maybe hour
[01:21:16] yeah it's just like who
[01:21:18] boy but um what an
[01:21:20] interesting movie really
[01:21:22] amazing performances oh
[01:21:24] god Margaret Qualley
[01:21:26] yeah you know those are fake
[01:21:28] tits really they're
[01:21:29] prosthetics fantastic
[01:21:31] fantastic real literal
[01:21:33] bolt-ons yeah which kind
[01:21:35] of fits with the theme of
[01:21:36] the movie I guess so yeah
[01:21:38] just like just so many
[01:21:39] levels of artifice art yes
[01:21:42] artifice and um very
[01:21:45] interesting uh interestingly
[01:21:47] shot film um yeah it had
[01:21:50] that logos had that
[01:21:51] logos yathrimos thing of
[01:21:53] like these really extreme
[01:21:55] close-ups yeah and and
[01:21:57] these really weird lenses
[01:21:59] and they're doing all these
[01:22:00] interesting whip pans and
[01:22:02] all yeah yeah I thought
[01:22:04] it was I thought it was a
[01:22:05] great movie I just wish
[01:22:06] sometimes it had a little
[01:22:07] more faith maybe in the
[01:22:08] people that were watching
[01:22:09] it but still like uh Demi
[01:22:12] Moore is great Margot
[01:22:13] Qualley is also fantastic
[01:22:15] yeah I just don't even want
[01:22:16] to say too much because
[01:22:18] it's it's quite a hoot I
[01:22:21] love all the practical
[01:22:22] effects oh yeah so goopy
[01:22:24] it's a goopy an extremely
[01:22:26] goopy movie extremely
[01:22:28] goopy movie I mean what
[01:22:30] it has to say about
[01:22:31] growing older and about
[01:22:33] the male gaze and Hollywood
[01:22:36] and so many things the
[01:22:38] price of fame yeah um I
[01:22:40] think it's really
[01:22:41] interesting what do you
[01:22:42] think of Dennis Quaid wow
[01:22:44] isn't he nasty just
[01:22:45] disgusting is that scene
[01:22:46] where he's eating the
[01:22:47] crawfish yeah and they
[01:22:49] keep doing these close-ups
[01:22:50] of his mouth and he keeps
[01:22:51] puckering his mouth like a
[01:22:52] butthole you know it ends
[01:22:55] when you're 50 what ends
[01:22:58] you know yeah he's firing
[01:23:01] her without telling her
[01:23:02] she's fired which is so
[01:23:03] brilliant it took me a
[01:23:05] couple minutes after that
[01:23:06] scene was over to be like
[01:23:07] oh oh he just canned her
[01:23:08] but he didn't say you're
[01:23:09] fired he said he said when
[01:23:11] you're 50 it's over the
[01:23:13] funniest part about that
[01:23:14] is that again Demi Moore is
[01:23:15] 60 and she's playing a
[01:23:17] character who's 50 but but
[01:23:19] yeah it's a little fudging
[01:23:21] on the filmmakers part
[01:23:22] yeah yeah just um a
[01:23:24] movie that you it feels
[01:23:26] like a lot of the
[01:23:28] principal actors to
[01:23:30] perform that kind of role
[01:23:31] and to do it well you
[01:23:32] really had to have a lot
[01:23:33] of faith uh not just in
[01:23:35] the director you're
[01:23:35] working with but the
[01:23:36] teams you're working
[01:23:37] with oh yeah that takes
[01:23:39] a whole lot that's just
[01:23:40] a movie it takes a whole
[01:23:40] lot of trust and faith to
[01:23:42] pull off you're putting
[01:23:44] your fate in the hands of
[01:23:45] so many people and a
[01:23:46] movie that has so much
[01:23:48] nudity and and it's
[01:23:51] talking about bodies
[01:23:52] I don't know if it's
[01:23:53] like something fucking
[01:23:54] brave about it but it
[01:23:56] to do something like
[01:23:57] that everyone I think
[01:23:58] has to be on the same
[01:23:59] fucking page well it's
[01:24:00] not afraid to go there
[01:24:01] I think is the is
[01:24:02] really the thing that
[01:24:03] struck me is like every
[01:24:05] time I thought the movie
[01:24:06] would like pull away or
[01:24:07] censor itself it just
[01:24:09] kind of no actually uh
[01:24:10] we're gonna we're gonna
[01:24:11] go further with it
[01:24:12] actually yeah we're
[01:24:12] gonna take it a couple
[01:24:13] steps further and I
[01:24:15] appreciate that the tit
[01:24:17] tumor oh yeah that was
[01:24:20] fucking wild yeah just
[01:24:21] body horror I love as a
[01:24:23] genre as a sub genre of
[01:24:25] horror because like
[01:24:26] everybody points to
[01:24:27] Cronenberg I'm like yeah
[01:24:28] but this movie was like
[01:24:29] society you know or
[01:24:32] Tetsuo the Iron Man even
[01:24:34] yeah it just it's fucking
[01:24:36] insane I thoroughly
[01:24:37] enjoyed it I think
[01:24:37] everyone should watch it
[01:24:38] it's a it's a pretty
[01:24:40] interesting movie for a
[01:24:41] two and a half hour movie
[01:24:42] it didn't feel like two
[01:24:43] and a half hours it
[01:24:44] really did you should
[01:24:44] pretty consistently
[01:24:45] engaged and any until
[01:24:47] time I want to say one
[01:24:49] of the greatest tricks of
[01:24:50] that movie is any
[01:24:51] single time you think
[01:24:51] you're about to fit into
[01:24:52] a groove where you think
[01:24:54] the plot's gonna go
[01:24:57] it's something new gets
[01:24:58] introduced like there's
[01:24:59] they there was a good
[01:25:00] way of introducing like
[01:25:02] fresh ideas are kind of
[01:25:03] like subverting what you
[01:25:04] think was gonna happen
[01:25:05] yeah it's again a very
[01:25:07] well-made movie it
[01:25:08] deserves all the accolades
[01:25:09] I just wish the first
[01:25:10] third or so was a little
[01:25:13] tone it down yeah tone
[01:25:14] it down a bit yeah yeah
[01:25:16] uh so it gets it gets
[01:25:17] two uh two thumbs up from
[01:25:19] me five bags of popcorn
[01:25:20] and uh and a little vial of
[01:25:23] the substance for you to
[01:25:23] take home yeah for the
[01:25:25] home game I think my
[01:25:28] original post on blue sky
[01:25:29] was just the substance is a
[01:25:31] documentary Demi Moore can
[01:25:32] just do that so amazing you
[01:25:37] know that's that's just how
[01:25:38] I feel about it's gonna be
[01:25:39] what else you got you say
[01:25:40] I got uh season four of
[01:25:42] you oh boy uh season three
[01:25:44] cracked right through that
[01:25:46] didn't you yeah we've been
[01:25:48] cruising season three I think
[01:25:50] probably so far probably the
[01:25:51] best season of the show
[01:25:52] subverts a couple things I
[01:25:54] don't want to give any
[01:25:55] major spoilers right you
[01:25:57] think that they're about to
[01:25:58] write themselves into a
[01:25:59] corner and they find some
[01:26:00] pretty interesting ways to
[01:26:01] get themselves out of it okay
[01:26:03] season four ends with Joe
[01:26:05] in Europe hmm he starts out
[01:26:08] in France and ends in the
[01:26:10] UK and finds himself
[01:26:12] teaching uh literature as a
[01:26:15] college professor oh and he
[01:26:18] is trying to stay low-key and
[01:26:21] stay out of uh anyone really
[01:26:24] noticing him he's changed
[01:26:25] his hair he has a beard now
[01:26:27] he's looking a little bit less
[01:26:28] rat-faced and he uh ends up
[01:26:32] against his own will befriending
[01:26:33] a fellow snobbish professor
[01:26:35] or a fellow professor who is a
[01:26:38] huge snob okay and comes from
[01:26:40] a little bit of money you know
[01:26:42] British vaguely aristocracy
[01:26:45] yeah private boarding school boy
[01:26:47] type of guy and Joe ends up
[01:26:49] kind of getting pushed into this
[01:26:51] world it's kind of a little bit
[01:26:52] like salt burn like this fish
[01:26:54] out of water in this life of
[01:26:55] aristocracy and like wealth and
[01:26:57] privilege but the thing is is
[01:26:59] that there is a a death early on
[01:27:02] Joe thinks he's the one that has
[01:27:05] killed this individual because he
[01:27:06] was fed abstinence without realizing
[01:27:09] what it was he it kind of turns to
[01:27:11] tables because the first three
[01:27:13] seasons are kind of Joe outsmarting
[01:27:16] and outwitting most of the people
[01:27:18] around him right and you see his
[01:27:20] his method to his madness but in this
[01:27:23] season he's the one who's being
[01:27:25] stalked he's the one that's being
[01:27:26] fucked with by these texts on his
[01:27:29] phone that are from like a an app
[01:27:32] that's supposed to be signal and so
[01:27:35] he's getting fucked with and he's
[01:27:37] trying to figure out who it is and
[01:27:39] it's it's a nice nice little
[01:27:42] whodunit oh okay yeah I definitely
[01:27:46] like the idea of turning what would
[01:27:48] have been just a Dexter clone into
[01:27:50] something else so that's yeah yeah
[01:27:52] yeah I enjoyed it what what a good
[01:27:54] little show I think we're about like
[01:27:56] at least a third through the season so
[01:27:58] hopefully we'll watch a little bit
[01:27:59] more of it soon and go from there I
[01:28:03] have one last thing super quick
[01:28:04] because I can't imagine anyone not
[01:28:08] getting it immediately but it is so you
[01:28:10] know Tim Robinson and Sam Richardson
[01:28:13] from I Think You Should Leave I never
[01:28:16] saw the show they did before with
[01:28:18] Comedy Central called Detroiters oh
[01:28:20] yeah Netflix just got the rights from
[01:28:23] Comedy Central quietly dropped it on
[01:28:25] Netflix I've been chewing through that
[01:28:27] it's fantastic all kinds of jokes that
[01:28:30] you kind of go oh well this is where
[01:28:31] this idea from I think you should leave
[01:28:33] came from or are you seeing the the
[01:28:35] genesis of certain things the obsession
[01:28:37] with hot dogs a few of the bits about
[01:28:39] men's fashion yeah there's some stuff in
[01:28:41] there where you're like okay there's
[01:28:42] there's a bit of a German about idea
[01:28:44] here but they play it mostly straight
[01:28:47] where you know there's it's two guys
[01:28:49] who run an ad agency pitching shitty ads
[01:28:52] to you know these tiny companies in
[01:28:55] Detroit it's a hoot it's a hoot and a
[01:28:57] half I'll check it out there's even a
[01:28:59] great episode midway through season two
[01:29:03] with Tim Robinson his brother in the show
[01:29:07] is played by your favorite in mind Connor
[01:29:10] O'Malley and the Connor O'Malley character
[01:29:15] is very much like one he does in some of
[01:29:18] his streams where it's the America's
[01:29:20] favorite masturbator one where he's you
[01:29:23] know he lives at home and he's mad at
[01:29:25] his stepdad it's really funny because
[01:29:28] you know Tim Robinson yells a lot and I
[01:29:30] think you should leave and Connor O'Malley
[01:29:32] yells a lot so every scene they're
[01:29:34] together it's just two of the dumbest
[01:29:37] looking white dudes yelling at each
[01:29:39] other amazing and yet it still manages to
[01:29:41] be funny all right all right I'm going to
[01:29:43] check this out so just conceptually it's
[01:29:46] like okay you have a lot of room to work
[01:29:48] with here all right fuck yeah okay
[01:29:50] awesome because I kept seeing this bit
[01:29:53] from it on tick-tock where it's the plot
[01:29:56] thing in the show is that they forgot to
[01:29:59] pay for health insurance for their
[01:30:01] employees and one of their employees
[01:30:02] gets injured and so now they have to go
[01:30:04] back and like re-up everyone's health
[01:30:06] insurance and so they all end up at the
[01:30:08] doctor's office on the same day now Parks and
[01:30:11] Rec did that same bit but I think this is
[01:30:15] funnier you've got Tim and this guy as
[01:30:17] the doctor he's interrogating about how
[01:30:19] many hot dogs he eats a day
[01:30:23] oh about three a day did you eat any hot
[01:30:25] dogs today well not really what do you
[01:30:28] mean not really well I have a hot dog
[01:30:30] bowl what is that well it's we take bits
[01:30:33] of hot dog and you move up in a big old
[01:30:35] bread bowl so you ate a less healthy
[01:30:39] version of a hot dog where are you going
[01:30:41] with this moments like that and they're
[01:30:46] strewn all throughout the show really
[01:30:47] funny Detroiters Netflix has it which is
[01:30:49] good because I really felt like that one
[01:30:51] was gonna get trapped at Comedy Central
[01:30:52] it's like stuff with Adult Swim it's
[01:30:54] like it's gonna get trapped there you're
[01:30:55] never gonna see it again but thankfully
[01:30:57] that that's not the case Detroiters
[01:30:59] highly recommend it very funny and it's
[01:31:01] really nice it's like a it's also kind of
[01:31:04] like hey you know Detroit it's actually
[01:31:07] pretty cool now and Sam Richardson does
[01:31:09] much more here than he ever does with I
[01:31:12] think you should leave and I kind of
[01:31:14] want to see him do more I love him he's
[01:31:16] a he's just a he's a big cuddly guy and
[01:31:19] he's just he's great I see myself in
[01:31:22] Sam which is really funny because he's
[01:31:23] the black guy but I don't know why if
[01:31:26] you can figure it out you can let us
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[01:32:15] article a day I am not contributing to
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[01:32:21] find the time and desire to write the
[01:32:24] five or six things I have for them uh
[01:32:26] anyways the muse the muse she is fickle I
[01:32:29] understand the muse is fickle yeah um
[01:32:32] yeah we'll just keep saying that uh
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[01:34:38] see a man bow horse our horse is very
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